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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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DoomsdayDevice

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Guys, I have to go.

Yesterday IT's bulldog. Today, a zealot. What will it be tomorrow? :crying:

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

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Rifneno wrote...

What?  I just searched the tlk files to see if you were serious... I can't find any reference to it in the dialogue.

But I did find this: "In the next hour: Victory on Noveria. Spirits are high as a Reaper capital ship goes down."  Another one goes down and we don't get to see it!  "Damnit!" - most Cerberus assault troopers.  One thing I was really looking forward to seeing in this game that I never got to see was capital ships getting blown to kingdom come.  It happens, but always off screen.  Why, damnit, why!  :(

I add another Posted Image to this. Haven't we only seen one Capital Ship die, ever?


Yep.  Sovereign.  In high EMS, you see one taking major damage in the battle with Sword, but you don't get to see it actually destroyed.


And Leviathan. Posted Image'd


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I'll give you that the "SO BE IT" is very unnerving.

When I first played with EC, I accidentally triggered refuse by shooting at Starbinger on my way to destroy. When that line thundered over my speakers, I really thought IT was about to be revealed. :lol:

Same! I was so disappointed.


Ditto.  More disappointing than Traynor's first night with a man.

...  I should go.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...
No, pick the renegade choices. Shep taunts TIM to use the crucible asap to control them. The difference is if TIM wasn't indoctrinated he could just have opened up the arms for the Crucible to dock like Shep does, but he could not.


Since it isn't the real team, but rather imaginary TIM - it makes sense for the reapers to show shepard exaclty that so he would fall for control himself minutes later.   Control isn't bad idea in itself - it was all TIM - he was currupt and crazy and intoctrinated - he wasn't worthy to take control, and he could have anyway - because the reapers controlled him, and wouldn't let him. But YOU ARE WORTHY, YOU CAN, because of how special you are - and it will totally work for you. Go ahead. Grab those lightning rods. You know you want to. 

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have to go.

Yesterday IT's bulldog. Today, a zealot. What will it be tomorrow? :crying:

It was a comparison between you and Thomas Huxley.  I meant no insult.;)

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have to go.

Yesterday IT's bulldog. Today, a zealot. What will it be tomorrow? :crying:


A measly IT henchman? 

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An Elcor husk..........


Emotionlessly: Slow down, human.  Threateningly: I must end you.

He will then start reciting Hamlet

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TheConstantOne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

What?  I just searched the tlk files to see if you were serious... I can't find any reference to it in the dialogue.

But I did find this: "In the next hour: Victory on Noveria. Spirits are high as a Reaper capital ship goes down."  Another one goes down and we don't get to see it!  "Damnit!" - most Cerberus assault troopers.  One thing I was really looking forward to seeing in this game that I never got to see was capital ships getting blown to kingdom come.  It happens, but always off screen.  Why, damnit, why!  :(

I add another Posted Image to this. Haven't we only seen one Capital Ship die, ever?


Yep.  Sovereign.  In high EMS, you see one taking major damage in the battle with Sword, but you don't get to see it actually destroyed.


And Leviathan. Posted Image'd


Posted Image

HahahahaahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

The only other CS that is destroyed is in a..... DLC????

BAahahahahahaha. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

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BleedingUranium

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have to go.

Yesterday IT's bulldog. Today, a zealot. What will it be tomorrow? :crying:


Awesome! As always!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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. But would Harbinger still be capable of doing things the way Leviathans would?  They did get melted down and blended in order to make Harbinger.

Well, Levy said that indoctrination is "perfected" enthrallment, so I'll go with yes. Times 10.

If it really were perfected we wouldn't have this discussion as there should be no way to escape indoctrination.

Meg, that's exactly why I put quotes there. That's how they said it. It's obvious it's only improved, but the Leviathans are as arrogant as the reapers. You don't need to nitpick everything,

You missed the rest of my post. As it's not perfected it's a quite bigger leap to assume they can now create the perfect illusion.

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TheConstantOne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

What?  I just searched the tlk files to see if you were serious... I can't find any reference to it in the dialogue.

But I did find this: "In the next hour: Victory on Noveria. Spirits are high as a Reaper capital ship goes down."  Another one goes down and we don't get to see it!  "Damnit!" - most Cerberus assault troopers.  One thing I was really looking forward to seeing in this game that I never got to see was capital ships getting blown to kingdom come.  It happens, but always off screen.  Why, damnit, why!  :(

I add another Posted Image to this. Haven't we only seen one Capital Ship die, ever?


Yep.  Sovereign.  In high EMS, you see one taking major damage in the battle with Sword, but you don't get to see it actually destroyed.


And Leviathan. Posted Image'd


Posted Image


Well, I mean visibility destroyed.  Sovereign was blown to pieces.  The capital ship in Leviathan and the ones in the destroy ending just fall down.  I definitely don't think the ones in destroy are dead (duh, IT), and I have serious doubts that the Leviathans are what they say they are so I'm quite suspicious that capital ship may have just been playing possum.  If the squids really are against the Reapers, and if they really can so trivially bring down a capital ship, why are they hiding like that?

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demersel wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
No, pick the renegade choices. Shep taunts TIM to use the crucible asap to control them. The difference is if TIM wasn't indoctrinated he could just have opened up the arms for the Crucible to dock like Shep does, but he could not.


Since it isn't the real team, but rather imaginary TIM - it makes sense for the reapers to show shepard exaclty that so he would fall for control himself minutes later.   Control isn't bad idea in itself - it was all TIM - he was currupt and crazy and intoctrinated - he wasn't worthy to take control, and he could have anyway - because the reapers controlled him, and wouldn't let him. But YOU ARE WORTHY, YOU CAN, because of how special you are - and it will totally work for you. Go ahead. Grab those lightning rods. You know you want to. 

I have that whole conversation mapped out to get a result that isn't OOC or annoyingly bad.

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Steelcan wrote...

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Oh boy if Thane was alive, and you did not save the Hanar home world.

Thane: Shepard I heard that you sacrificed the Hanar home world, Kahje. Did you know my son was on it?

Shepard: Oh......****

Theres still Rakhana:unsure:  I wonder if the Reapers target it...


I am sure they did.

Though I wish I could have saved all those Elcor people on their homeworld. Another reason why I pick Destroy.

. The Elcor make you pick Destroy?


Now's a good time to bring this up...
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Modifié par Bill Casey, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:59 .


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What's an OOC?

#78615
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

HahahahaahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

The only other CS that is destroyed is in a..... DLC????

BAahahahahahaha. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


CS is an appropriate acronym.  Anyway, even if the Leviathans are legit that capital ship probably isn't dead, just temporarily disabled.  The Kodiak shuttle worked fine once the Leviathans decided to let it work again.  The Reaper almost certainly is under the same effect.

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Well I have to duck out to, classes tomorrow, but I think I may be back.

#78617
Rifneno

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demersel wrote...

What's an OOC?


Out of character.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have to go.

Yesterday IT's bulldog. Today, a zealot. What will it be tomorrow? :crying:


The Antichrist. =]

#78619
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
. But would Harbinger still be capable of doing things the way Leviathans would?  They did get melted down and blended in order to make Harbinger.

Well, Levy said that indoctrination is "perfected" enthrallment, so I'll go with yes. Times 10.

If it really were perfected we wouldn't have this discussion as there should be no way to escape indoctrination.

Meg, that's exactly why I put quotes there. That's how they said it. It's obvious it's only improved, but the Leviathans are as arrogant as the reapers. You don't need to nitpick everything,

You missed the rest of my post. As it's not perfected it's a quite bigger leap to assume they can now create the perfect illusion.


Except it's not a perfect illusion. It's made up of bits and pieces we've seen before in our memories. A perfect illusion would have been more realistic. You keep changing your argument now.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
. But would Harbinger still be capable of doing things the way Leviathans would?  They did get melted down and blended in order to make Harbinger.

Well, Levy said that indoctrination is "perfected" enthrallment, so I'll go with yes. Times 10.

If it really were perfected we wouldn't have this discussion as there should be no way to escape indoctrination.

Meg, that's exactly why I put quotes there. That's how they said it. It's obvious it's only improved, but the Leviathans are as arrogant as the reapers. You don't need to nitpick everything,

You missed the rest of my post. As it's not perfected it's a quite bigger leap to assume they can now create the perfect illusion.

Well, I don't think it is at all. I mean, we knew indoctrination made people hallucinate before Leviathan. Now we know that it's better than enthrallment. It's 1+1 to me.

With what CT added too.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:59 .


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demersel wrote...

What's an OOC?

Out Of Character line.  

For example for my Pro-Human Separd apologizing to Tevos after Thessia is out of character, not something I'd normally do.  But hey, autodialouge.

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Dwailing wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have to go.

Yesterday IT's bulldog. Today, a zealot. What will it be tomorrow? :crying:


The Antichrist. =]


No! I've got a better one! Tomorrow he will be a synthesis zealot!!!

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Steelcan wrote...

demersel wrote...

What's an OOC?

Out Of Character line.  

For example for my Pro-Human Separd apologizing to Tevos after Thessia is out of character, not something I'd normally do.  But hey, autodialouge.


Or telling Bailey it's none of his business when he asks why Shepard wants Sedaris released.  That's one fo the few autodialogues that really pissed me off.

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Steelcan wrote...

demersel wrote...

What's an OOC?

Out Of Character line.  

For example for my Pro-Human Separd apologizing to Tevos after Thessia is out of character, not something I'd normally do.  But hey, autodialouge.


Who's Tevos? 

Modifié par demersel, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:02 .


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demersel wrote...

What's an OOC?


out of character
edit::ph34r:

Modifié par draconian139, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:01 .