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draconian139

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K thanks, that's about what I'd heard. Didn't know the bit about Vega, makes me like him a bit more.

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The Vega thing was fun. This is all from memory, so I might be missing some minor details. He's in Omega playing cards with a group of batarians, and has won a substantial amount of money. A news story comes on the TV about Shepard blowing up the Bahak relay. It's a batarian news station, and they're making Shepard out to be a terrorist and demanding blood, ect. Vega calms get up, rips the TV off the wall, and snaps it like a twig. The bartender freaks, and Vega tells him to take his winnings from the card game for the damage. The batarians he was playing with get pissed and start in on Vega for defending Shepard. They get into a fight, and he curbstomps them all at once. He winds up running from a pissed mob and Anderson appears out of nowhere and takes him aside. Vega says he's not coming back to active duty (he's still distraught over the events of Paragon Lost) and to just send him to the brig if that's what he wants. Anderson tells him he's not far off: he is going to the brig, but as a guard for a very special 'prisoner.'

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BansheeOwnage

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draconian139 wrote...

K thanks, that's about what I'd heard. Didn't know the bit about Vega, makes me like him a bit more.

Yeah, it's cool, but more importantly it shows Arrival is canon. Again.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

draconian139 wrote...

K thanks, that's about what I'd heard. Didn't know the bit about Vega, makes me like him a bit more.

Yeah, it's cool, but more importantly it shows Arrival is canon. Again.


Arrival is canon but shepard doing it isnt. Shepard is forced to go on trial either way.

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Rifneno wrote...

The Vega thing was fun. This is all from memory, so I might be missing some minor details. He's in Omega playing cards with a group of batarians, and has won a substantial amount of money. A news story comes on the TV about Shepard blowing up the Bahak relay. It's a batarian news station, and they're making Shepard out to be a terrorist and demanding blood, ect. Vega calms get up, rips the TV off the wall, and snaps it like a twig. The bartender freaks, and Vega tells him to take his winnings from the card game for the damage. The batarians he was playing with get pissed and start in on Vega for defending Shepard. They get into a fight, and he curbstomps them all at once. He winds up running from a pissed mob and Anderson appears out of nowhere and takes him aside. Vega says he's not coming back to active duty (he's still distraught over the events of Paragon Lost) and to just send him to the brig if that's what he wants. Anderson tells him he's not far off: he is going to the brig, but as a guard for a very special 'prisoner.'


Does this happen in Paragon Lost? I haven't seen it yet because BigBoss gave me a rather lukewarm review of it.

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Hrothdane wrote...

Does this happen in Paragon Lost? I haven't seen it yet because BigBoss gave me a rather lukewarm review of it.


It's a comic. https://digital.dark.../?q=mass effect

Should be part of Invasion bundle.

Modifié par Humakt83, 04 janvier 2013 - 08:03 .


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True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense

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CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


Not really, I done a play through with Shepard not doing it and they just mention a group of marines doing it and non survive and that shepherd on trial for being apart of Cerberus.

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CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


I like how they don't even pretend to make sense of it if Shepard didn't do arrival.  "If anyone else..." "If anyone else what, Anderson?  What did I do?  Why am I here?  Why am I really here?"  "...  Look, an elcor! *runs away*"

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CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense

Dang. I did Arrival but in a playthrough I didn't use for ME3. Posted Image Is my Shepard living a lie?

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paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense

Dang. I did Arrival but in a playthrough I didn't use for ME3. Posted Image Is my Shepard living a lie?


Yes.  He's an engineer trapped in a vanguard's body.

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Rosewind wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


Not really, I done a play through with Shepard not doing it and they just mention a group of marines doing it and non survive and that shepherd on trial for being apart of Cerberus.

Which doesn't make sense. Sorry Rose, but we don't agree here. Plus Vega proves Shepard did it.

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paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense

Dang. I did Arrival but in a playthrough I didn't use for ME3. Posted Image Is my Shepard living a lie?



More than you know.

:ph34r:

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paxxton

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It's good then I have Arrival planned for my Renegade playthrough which I'll import to ME3 upon completion.

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Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense

Dang. I did Arrival but in a playthrough I didn't use for ME3. Posted Image Is my Shepard living a lie?


Yes.  He's an engineer trapped in a vanguard's body.

LOL. I'm playing as Engineer this time.

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Rifneno wrote...

The Vega thing was fun. This is all from memory, so I might be missing some minor details. He's in Omega playing cards with a group of batarians, and has won a substantial amount of money. A news story comes on the TV about Shepard blowing up the Bahak relay. It's a batarian news station, and they're making Shepard out to be a terrorist and demanding blood, ect. Vega calms get up, rips the TV off the wall, and snaps it like a twig. The bartender freaks, and Vega tells him to take his winnings from the card game for the damage. The batarians he was playing with get pissed and start in on Vega for defending Shepard. They get into a fight, and he curbstomps them all at once. He winds up running from a pissed mob and Anderson appears out of nowhere and takes him aside. Vega says he's not coming back to active duty (he's still distraught over the events of Paragon Lost) and to just send him to the brig if that's what he wants. Anderson tells him he's not far off: he is going to the brig, but as a guard for a very special 'prisoner.'


That is an excellent summary.


Also, Jacob supports IT.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


Not really, I done a play through with Shepard not doing it and they just mention a group of marines doing it and non survive and that shepherd on trial for being apart of Cerberus.

Which doesn't make sense. Sorry Rose, but we don't agree here. Plus Vega proves Shepard did it.


*Shrugs* Nothing makes sense in the game remeber. It didnt bother me much honestly.

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Hey, everybody. Have I missed anything today?

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everybody. Have I missed anything today?

Did you miss the Arrival? Your Shepard is fake. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

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BansheeOwnage

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Rosewind wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


Not really, I done a play through with Shepard not doing it and they just mention a group of marines doing it and non survive and that shepherd on trial for being apart of Cerberus.

Which doesn't make sense. Sorry Rose, but we don't agree here. Plus Vega proves Shepard did it.


*Shrugs* Nothing makes sense in the game remeber. It didnt bother me much honestly.

It supports IT though. Posted Image Goodnight IT thread. Goodnight Rose. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everybody. Have I missed anything today?

Did you miss the Arrival? Your Shepard is fake. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

No, my Shepard is Real!Posted Image

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 04 janvier 2013 - 08:50 .


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There should have been a few things from DLC that Shepard always does, regardless of if the player did it (basically off-screen). If just effects war assets, and sets you on a more 'default' path.

Bring Down The Sky - explains who the hell Balak is, and why he hates Shepard. If you didn't do it, Balak escaped and the colony was saved and you get slightly fewer Batarian war assets.

Lair of the Shadow Broker - explains why Liara is the Broker. If you didn't do it, she's still Broker but you don't get the extra Broker war assets.

Arrival - explains EVERYTHING in ME3. Shepard not doing it is like Bilbo not finding the One Ring during The Hobbit. If you didn't do it then you don't get some sort of war asset that I can't think of right now.

Stolen Memories, Price of Revenge, Overlord, Firewalker, Pinnacle Station are 'optional'.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everybody. Have I missed anything today?

Did you miss the Arrival? Your Shepard is fake. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

No, my Shepard is Real!Posted Image

Posted Image

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Rosewind wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


Not really, I done a play through with Shepard not doing it and they just mention a group of marines doing it and non survive and that shepherd on trial for being apart of Cerberus.

Mine didn't either, since I refused to buy Arrival after watching it on 'tube. I see Shepard being on trial for:
a) All the **** s/he did on the shady side in ME1.
B) All the **** s/he did with Cerberus in ME2.
c) Wiping a star system.

If you did Arrival Shepard's docket includes a-c, else only a&b and the marines wiped the star system.

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Kyrene wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

True Shepards did Arrival or the story makes 0 sense


Not really, I done a play through with Shepard not doing it and they just mention a group of marines doing it and non survive and that shepherd on trial for being apart of Cerberus.

Mine didn't either, since I refused to buy Arrival after watching it on 'tube. I see Shepard being on trial for:
a) All the **** s/he did on the shady side in ME1.
B) All the **** s/he did with Cerberus in ME2.
c) Wiping a star system.

If you did Arrival Shepard's docket includes a-c, else only a&b and the marines wiped the star system.


Shepard is a Spectre in ME1. The laws dont apply to her.

Neither Joker nor Chakwas were on trial for working for Cerberus, so I doubt thats why Shep is on trial.

Only doing Arrival makes the trial make any kind of sense.