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MegumiAzusa wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

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Anyone remember what the Turian Gardner says about the water and DNA. He goes "Everything will be a lot simpler if we all had the same DNA, but noooo the universe loves diversity"


Also how the Reapers were so very interested in the human's genetic diversity but yet aim for synthesis...

Synthesis doesn't diminish genetic diversity. If it would why are there still all these different plants and species?

yet the same synthetic implants are in everyone, so i would disagree^_^

They are not implants.

they are, they're just very small. They wouldnt be there naturally they were put there so they are implants

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A large part of what makes species look and act differently is coded in
their genetic material. What genes make species look different? A
possibility is to have unique genes that make a fly, a mouse or a human
look like a fly, a mouse, or a human, respectively.

- Source

If Synthesis made all DNA 100% the same, we'd have problems knowing who's who ;)

@umad: Do it like Garrus, don't give a damn about regs and rules :bandit::lol:

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Norlond wrote...

A large part of what makes species look and act differently is coded in
their genetic material. What genes make species look different? A
possibility is to have unique genes that make a fly, a mouse or a human
look like a fly, a mouse, or a human, respectively.

- Source

If Synthesis made all DNA 100% the same, we'd have problems knowing who's who ;)


"HI BOB" "Hi Bob" "HIIII BOOOOOB" "H  i   B  o  b"

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Rosewind wrote...
"HI BOB" "Hi Bob" "HIIII BOOOOOB" "H  i   B  o  b"


:lol:

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*watching Dr.Cid's performance*

what a catchphrase, "the reins of history back in the hands of man"
he kinda reminds me of the illusive man, but more entertaining to watch.

won't lie, i said "the reins of history back in the hands of the galaxy" when picking destroy.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

AresKeith wrote...



Ummm, I've been talking to her alot in PM and through Steam and I find her awesome Posted Image


Good for you. If you read the post it says in the thread she doesn't come across as that. Because she doesn't

I explained it and you still went "and even if it doesn't fit in this exact situation - You still need to stop doing that." how was that example you brought up earlier with reminding someone to eat if that person is not hungry? You want to see me as a bad person, nothing I can do to change that.


For **** sake. Listen! 

Even though that time you may have genuinely been asking a question, and I'm sorry for bringing it up (though Dwailing brought it up) it doesn't change the fact you often do pick on any minor point to question for proof when we all know it's a hypothetical situation.

This is a theory, not a confirmed fact. As it's a theory we are THEORISING about how things may link. We are often discussing this when you come in and say something like "NOPE" and don't offer anything other than that.

That was Blur who said that actually...so you're wrong. I understand what he means though. You often come in and tell us we all need to look at the literal version of anything when you needn't as we're not retarded. You pointlessly tell us, just as a mother may tell her child to eat when he isn't hungry.

Nothing you can do to change that? You can stop being such  a miserable ***** all the time. Actually join in conversation instead of jumping on any miniscule detail to be negative and start something over. But no, I ask why you don't do this and you responded "I got better"

NO, you didn't. You're worse. 

Many people are telling you to stop jumping down anyone's throat about any minor detail but you refuse to listen then act shocked and ignorant/play the victim when someone calls you out on it again.

I never asked for any proof in that case, read my post again maybe?

I usually explain my "nope" posts. If you stop reading after that it's your problem.

I joined the conversation and still got the same "you should stop" crap.

It's you who refuse to see my posts as they are intended, but twist it so it fits your view of me as a bad person. This whole thing is a prime example. Even after explaining you didn't step down from telling me what I'm doing wrong in your eyes instead of just continue the conversation.


That's why I said I was sorry it was brought up in that case but it does happen a lot of times. Do you misread on purpose for christ sake?

Yes, you got it because Dwailing posted something asking if you could stop and I agreed before hearing you were genuinelyn asking because most of the time you are not, and just being miserable.

You're being retarded. I ****ING APOLOGISED in the last post but you can't ****ing see it because you're manipulating anything I say into making me look like the bad guy. **** you. I'm the one big enough to apologise whilst you continue to handwave any suggestions you become a decent human being on the thread.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Anyone remember what the Turian Gardner says about the water and DNA. He goes "Everything will be a lot simpler if we all had the same DNA, but noooo the universe loves diversity"


Also how the Reapers were so very interested in the human's genetic diversity but yet aim for synthesis...

Synthesis doesn't diminish genetic diversity. If it would why are there still all these different plants and species?

yet the same synthetic implants are in everyone, so i would disagree^_^

They are not implants.


This is an example by the way. Just a "nope"

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And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

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CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.


We aren't LEGO, though.

Synthetic tech that physically changes every single living thing in the same way, and also affect the mindset of everything. Explain, if it doesn't do this, why everyone is at peace. Why do Reapers not keep attacking? Why are murderers not murdering. We're led to believe it is a utopia which cannot happen unless everyone is mentally altered.

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CoolioThane wrote...

You're being retarded. I ****ING APOLOGISED in the last post but you can't ****ing see it because you're manipulating anything I say into making me look like the bad guy. **** you. I'm the one big enough to apologise whilst you continue to handwave any suggestions you become a decent human being on the thread.

Gone over your posts, didn't find it. Link or quote please?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.

ill just add why i dislike synthesis, it makes javik live side by side with the reapers therefore it changes the way people think as javik would sooner die than do that, i cant stand the idea of basically reprogramming shepards friends and allies, you could say we have no evidence of this happening but it is implied and right now its all we have to go on

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CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.


We aren't LEGO, though.

Synthetic tech that physically changes every single living thing in the same way, and also affect the mindset of everything. Explain, if it doesn't do this, why everyone is at peace. Why do Reapers not keep attacking? Why are murderers not murdering. We're led to believe it is a utopia which cannot happen unless everyone is mentally altered.

Mental alterations etc are not the scope of the discussion at hand. It's about genetic diversity. You didn't bring up anything that says they are less genetic diverse. Also it seems clearly added, it doesn't override anything, therefor overall genetic diversity is the same.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

You're being retarded. I ****ING APOLOGISED in the last post but you can't ****ing see it because you're manipulating anything I say into making me look like the bad guy. **** you. I'm the one big enough to apologise whilst you continue to handwave any suggestions you become a decent human being on the thread.

Gone over your posts, didn't find it. Link or quote please?


Even though that time you may have genuinely been asking a question, and I'm sorry for bringing it up

Jesus

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CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

You're being retarded. I ****ING APOLOGISED in the last post but you can't ****ing see it because you're manipulating anything I say into making me look like the bad guy. **** you. I'm the one big enough to apologise whilst you continue to handwave any suggestions you become a decent human being on the thread.

Gone over your posts, didn't find it. Link or quote please?


Even though that time you may have genuinely been asking a question, and I'm sorry for bringing it up

Jesus

Followed by

You can stop being such a miserable ***** all the time.

etc
Great apology! Wish everyone would be as nice.

Try again?

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 04 janvier 2013 - 08:27 .


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If I pop in here and add my two cents on how Synthesis occurs, I feel it is somewhat similar in function as the Omega Lock from the Transformer Universe. The Omega Lock had the capability, among others, to rearrange the structure of the atoms of anything and cyberform(make like Cybertron) it. If used on people, this would transform them into an organic-synthetic hybrid since then that organic will be made more like a Cybertronian who are "robotic organisms".

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.


We aren't LEGO, though.

Synthetic tech that physically changes every single living thing in the same way, and also affect the mindset of everything. Explain, if it doesn't do this, why everyone is at peace. Why do Reapers not keep attacking? Why are murderers not murdering. We're led to believe it is a utopia which cannot happen unless everyone is mentally altered.

Mental alterations etc are not the scope of the discussion at hand. It's about genetic diversity. You didn't bring up anything that says they are less genetic diverse. Also it seems clearly added, it doesn't override anything, therefor overall genetic diversity is the same.


Nope. If you add something that is exactly the same to every living thing. Genetic diversity has been lowered.

Pre-synthesis: Jimmy - 59/310 things the same as Johnny
Post-synthesis: Jimmy - 60/311 things the same as Johnny

Diversity lowered by 0.26%

Of course that's simplifying it but still

#78918
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discussing synthesis never ends well does it

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

You're being retarded. I ****ING APOLOGISED in the last post but you can't ****ing see it because you're manipulating anything I say into making me look like the bad guy. **** you. I'm the one big enough to apologise whilst you continue to handwave any suggestions you become a decent human being on the thread.

Gone over your posts, didn't find it. Link or quote please?


Even though that time you may have genuinely been asking a question, and I'm sorry for bringing it up

Jesus

Followed by

You can stop being such a miserable ***** all the time.

etc
Great apology! Wish everyone would be as nice.


**** it then. Sorry for apologising and not sucking up to you in an apology. I'm saying it as it is. I said sorry for bringing it up, but it doesn't change the fact you're being a miserable ****. You've basically proven my point now by focussing on that negative part which was separate from the apology for the thing you were going on at me about. 

LIGHTEN THE **** UP

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CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.


We aren't LEGO, though.

Synthetic tech that physically changes every single living thing in the same way, and also affect the mindset of everything. Explain, if it doesn't do this, why everyone is at peace. Why do Reapers not keep attacking? Why are murderers not murdering. We're led to believe it is a utopia which cannot happen unless everyone is mentally altered.

Mental alterations etc are not the scope of the discussion at hand. It's about genetic diversity. You didn't bring up anything that says they are less genetic diverse. Also it seems clearly added, it doesn't override anything, therefor overall genetic diversity is the same.


Nope. If you add something that is exactly the same to every living thing. Genetic diversity has been lowered.

Pre-synthesis: Jimmy - 59/310 things the same as Johnny
Post-synthesis: Jimmy - 60/311 things the same as Johnny

Diversity lowered by 0.26%

Of course that's simplifying it but still

Uhm in both cases there are 251 differences. Aka the same.

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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Megumi is thread cancer.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

You're being retarded. I ****ING APOLOGISED in the last post but you can't ****ing see it because you're manipulating anything I say into making me look like the bad guy. **** you. I'm the one big enough to apologise whilst you continue to handwave any suggestions you become a decent human being on the thread.

Gone over your posts, didn't find it. Link or quote please?


Even though that time you may have genuinely been asking a question, and I'm sorry for bringing it up

Jesus

Followed by

You can stop being such a miserable ***** all the time.

etc
Great apology! Wish everyone would be as nice.

Try again?


No. You can't accept that then you're in the wrong.  

#78923
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Rifneno wrote...

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Megumi is thread cancer.

the topic is also synthesis:sick:

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

And anyway, synthesis does diminish genetic diversity. At least somewhat. Now everyone has a green glow, everyone is part-synthetic with the same tech. Or does the Space-magic completely vary for everything?

It's not space magic? Then what is it? If it's not space magic it is the same thing affecting everone, thus diminishing genetic diversity as everyone shares the same thing.

Everyone shares the same base atoms, even the same basics for the DNA in a species, does that make it bad? Nope. Just look at LEGO, even with the same parts you can create nearly unlimited possibilities.


We aren't LEGO, though.

Synthetic tech that physically changes every single living thing in the same way, and also affect the mindset of everything. Explain, if it doesn't do this, why everyone is at peace. Why do Reapers not keep attacking? Why are murderers not murdering. We're led to believe it is a utopia which cannot happen unless everyone is mentally altered.

Mental alterations etc are not the scope of the discussion at hand. It's about genetic diversity. You didn't bring up anything that says they are less genetic diverse. Also it seems clearly added, it doesn't override anything, therefor overall genetic diversity is the same.


Nope. If you add something that is exactly the same to every living thing. Genetic diversity has been lowered.

Pre-synthesis: Jimmy - 59/310 things the same as Johnny
Post-synthesis: Jimmy - 60/311 things the same as Johnny

Diversity lowered by 0.26%

Of course that's simplifying it but still

Uhm in both cases there are 251 differences. Aka the same.


Nope. You say there are 251 differences, but then there are also 59, but then 60 similarities. That's not the same, and maths shows you there is a 0.26% drop in diversity between Jimmy and Johnny. You can't pick and choose things to include, missy.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

If I pop in here and add my two cents on how Synthesis occurs, I feel it is somewhat similar in function as the Omega Lock from the Transformer Universe. The Omega Lock had the capability, among others, to rearrange the structure of the atoms of anything and cyberform(make like Cybertron) it. If used on people, this would transform them into an organic-synthetic hybrid since then that organic will be made more like a Cybertronian who are "robotic organisms".

Do these people change their mind in some way after being transformed(tee hee wanna be them:lol:)