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[Eryri]

Restrider wrote...

So, what would be the cause for DNA producing Dextro instead of Levo aminoacids?
I know that on Earth all life is based on Levo aminoacids and thus the used aminoacids to be used to synthesize proteins are Levo aminoacids.
My knowledge in genetics is not that good, but does during the process of protein synthesis happen some sort of connection between RNA and the monomers of the proteins (=Levo amino acids)?
If that is the case, wouldn't the chirality of the RNA actually have an influence, since docking processes usually only happen with the correct stereoisomers involved. These are genuine questions.

And now you've called my bluff, and dragged me way out of my comfort zone of half-remembered facts from college. 

I'll be honest I don't know, but you may well be right. 

Modifié par Eryri, 04 janvier 2013 - 11:00 .

[CoolioThane]

Rooster Teeth is awesome! Especially Achievement Hunter

[Arashi08]

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

still that was really great of Steve Blum to do, he usually has fun with things like this...unlike the guys at RoosterTeeth...

What? The guys at Rooster Teeth are awesome.

Never said they weren't, but when it comes to being at cons they seem to clearly show their distaste when dealing with reciting lines for fans, or saying things in their characters' voices they never said in the show, this is a perfect example

  And it's not just that, Jack has sometimes stated on the site that fans should ask the RT guys to recite lines and say different things in their character's voices in a sarcastic way that seems to allude that they find doing such things annoying at best.

I'm not saying they should be perfect and love everything the fans want them to do, but it wouldn't kill them to try and have a little fun in situations like these instead of acting like it's such a hassle would it?  I mean they were at a con, what did Joel expect?

that's just my opinion tho

Modifié par Arashi08, 04 janvier 2013 - 11:00 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Arashi08 wrote...

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

still that was really great of Steve Blum to do, he usually has fun with things like this...unlike the guys at RoosterTeeth...

What? The guys at Rooster Teeth are awesome.

Never said they weren't, but when it comes to being at cons they seem to clearly show their distaste when dealing with reciting lines for fans, or saying things in their characters' voices they never said in the show, this is a perfect example

  And it's not just that, Jack has sometimes stated on the site that fans should ask the RT guys to recite lines and say different things in their character's voices in a sarcastic way that seems to allude that they find doing such things annoying at best.

I'm not saying they should be perfect and love everything the fans want them to do, but it wouldn't kill them to try and have a little fun in situations like these instead of acting like it's such a hassle would it?  I mean they were at a con, what did Joel expect?

that's just my opinion tho

I agree, though I guess that they want the conventions to be more about their new stuff. Meanwhile, VA's can't really talk in detail about what they are working on so they mostly just go to give the fans a good time.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 04 janvier 2013 - 11:10 .

[Hrothdane]

Arashi08 wrote...

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

still that was really great of Steve Blum to do, he usually has fun with things like this...unlike the guys at RoosterTeeth...

What? The guys at Rooster Teeth are awesome.

Never said they weren't, but when it comes to being at cons they seem to clearly show their distaste when dealing with reciting lines for fans, or saying things in their characters' voices they never said in the show, this is a perfect example

  And it's not just that, Jack has sometimes stated on the site that fans should ask the RT guys to recite lines and say different things in their character's voices in a sarcastic way that seems to allude that they find doing such things annoying at best.

I'm not saying they should be perfect and love everything the fans want them to do, but it wouldn't kill them to try and have a little fun in situations like these instead of acting like it's such a hassle would it?  I mean they were at a con, what did Joel expect?

that's just my opinion tho

Exactly. Show a little lover for you job and the fans that make it possible!

More actors need to be like this man (you might recognize the voice )

[byne]

Arashi08 wrote...

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

still that was really great of Steve Blum to do, he usually has fun with things like this...unlike the guys at RoosterTeeth...

What? The guys at Rooster Teeth are awesome.

Never said they weren't, but when it comes to being at cons they seem to clearly show their distaste when dealing with reciting lines for fans, or saying things in their characters' voices they never said in the show, this is a perfect example

  And it's not just that, Jack has sometimes stated on the site that fans should ask the RT guys to recite lines and say different things in their character's voices in a sarcastic way that seems to allude that they find doing such things annoying at best.

I'm not saying they should be perfect and love everything the fans want them to do, but it wouldn't kill them to try and have a little fun in situations like these instead of acting like it's such a hassle would it?  I mean they were at a con, what did Joel expect?

that's just my opinion tho

Have you ever listened to the podcasts? They're usually so tired at cons they're almost passing out. I dont really blame Joel there.

Plus Jack just likes to bug people by getting them spammed with emails.

[Arashi08]

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

still that was really great of Steve Blum to do, he usually has fun with things like this...unlike the guys at RoosterTeeth...

What? The guys at Rooster Teeth are awesome.

Never said they weren't, but when it comes to being at cons they seem to clearly show their distaste when dealing with reciting lines for fans, or saying things in their characters' voices they never said in the show, this is a perfect example

  And it's not just that, Jack has sometimes stated on the site that fans should ask the RT guys to recite lines and say different things in their character's voices in a sarcastic way that seems to allude that they find doing such things annoying at best.

I'm not saying they should be perfect and love everything the fans want them to do, but it wouldn't kill them to try and have a little fun in situations like these instead of acting like it's such a hassle would it?  I mean they were at a con, what did Joel expect?

that's just my opinion tho

Have you ever listened to the podcasts? They're usually so tired at cons they're almost passing out. I dont really blame Joel there.

Plus Jack just likes to bug people by getting them spammed with emails.

Other VAs don't seem to have that problem, even Vic Mignogna, who goes to almost every other con in the states it seems, manages to put on a better demeanor.  Doesn't mean that there aren't some who act similar or even worse, but when you go to a con you should be expecting these kind of situations to arise, and it is better to try and have fun with them, or at the very least be more prepared for a con and maybe get more rest or something.

   I don't know how busy they are, but I can't imagine they are collosally more busy than other people who go to cons as guests.

[byne]

Arashi08 wrote...

   I don't know how busy they are, but I can't imagine they are collosally more busy than other people who go to cons as guests.

They dont go just as guests for panels, they have to go, unpack everything they're selling, set up their booth, put everything out for sale, then man the booth all day. And on top of that they do panels sometimes. They dont just go, talk at a panel, and then leave like most VAs do.

Modifié par byne, 04 janvier 2013 - 11:18 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm getting off for a while, guys. Let's just all agree that those people put their hearts and souls into what they do in order to entertain us, the fans.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 04 janvier 2013 - 11:22 .

[Restrider]

Eryri wrote...

And now you've called my bluff, and dragged me way out of my comfort zone of half-remembered facts from college. 

I'll be honest I don't know, but you may well be right. 

Lol, that was not my intention .
Anyways, I am out.

[Arashi08]

byne wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

   I don't know how busy they are, but I can't imagine they are collosally more busy than other people who go to cons as guests.

They dont go just as guests for panels, they have to go, unpack everything they're selling, set up their booth, put everything out for sale, then man the booth all day. And on top of that they do panels sometimes. They dont just go, talk at a panel, and then leave like most VAs do.

in some cons VA's do multiple things as well, and usually have multiple panels, as well as things like concerts, judgings, etc.  not to mention that they usually have to go to sveeral auditions a day and in some cases work multiple jobs in a studio such as directing and engineering.  They can be every bit as busy as the RT guys so imo that's no excuse for being all annoyed at people asking them to do lines and such.

I can understand them being tired, voice acting alone is very tiring.  I only do amature-ish stuff, and barely anything at that since at this point it's really nothing more than a hobby, and I still find it tedious.  Not to mention that they have alot of stuff to do in their office besides voice act, and then when they go to cons theyhave alot of other things to work on.  But when they respond to fans in that way it makes me want to go see them less.  Now I don't think their reputation is in trouble or anything,  they have more fans every year  but I just personally think they need a better approach for attendind cons.  but that's probably why they started RTX, maybe so they could have more control.  Then again it might just turn out to be more work, idk.

[Norlond]

A little late to respond, but whatevs
As far as I know, levo- or dextro-orientation is either coincidental or is the result of some effects of the weak interaction (parity violation I think)
It's been quite a while since I looked into that, so don't rely too heavily on that information

[RaenImrahl]

It has been a while since I've stopped by here. Let me mention, for everyone's information, that phrases like "thread cancer", while seemingly witty and unconventional, are nonetheless counter to a productive conversation. Rifneno is taking the next 24 hours to consider this... I hope others do so as well.

I am also, I might add, not fond of applying the label of "rapists" to other gamers. Rape is a serious issue and does not belong in any discussion of video games.

Now... please continue with your conversation. Thanks!

RI

[401 Kill]

So, I have seen many discussions on the flipped Shadows during TIM/Anderson scene and how it represents they are opposites (Anderson resisting vs. TIM succumbed) and I was curious, is this the only instance in the trilogy of the 90degree difference in the shadows? During any other pivotal moments, are shadows also flipped, something like a Shepard and Saren confrontation perhaps?

Modifié par 401 Kill, 04 janvier 2013 - 11:56 .

[Norlond]

You heard the man guys, back to discussion, I'll take the first step
I remembered I wanted to collect some quotes from Alice, haven't done much yet, but here's what I got so far

Cheshire Cat:
"Only a few find the way; some don't recognize it when they do; some don't ever want to."
"Every picture tells a story, sometimes we don't like the ending... sometimes we don't understand it."
"A reflection sometimes exposes more reality than the object it echoes."
"Memories provide important pieces of the past."
"Only the insane equate pain with success."


Queen dialogue
Alice: I was expecting someone else.
Queen: You don't know your own mind!
A: It's nearly a complete stranger.
Q: What you claim not to know is merely what you've denied.
A: I won't miss your tentacles.
Q: You prefer the hot stinking breath and unyielding attention of a potent, unreasoning, unfeeling hell-raiser? I don't think so!
A: Can you give me more than a warning? Caterpillar said you might help.
Q: I'd need a better reason to respond than what's currently on offer.
A: If you don't, we're all doomed.
Q: Not doomed, forgotten. I may survive here, but you're finished. You see the pattern of destruction, I know you do.
The train is trying to destroy all evidence of your past, and especially the fire. Now who would want that?
Who benefits from your madness?
A: The destruction of Wonderland is the destruction of me?
Q: Indeed. And vice versa.
A: I've set it in motion; I can derail it. This is good for me, I'm not insane. [...]
Q: The train must be stopped. But there's more to do. Your view conceals a tragedy.
The whole truth you claim to seek eludes you, because you won't look at what's around you!

More to come, Alice is full of wonderful lines and dialogue about dreams, hallucination and madness

[CoolioThane]

Very surprised I wasn't banned, I must say. Sorry for getting a bit annoyed everyone. Shouldn't happen again if I take a few seconds and refuse to respond to trolls

[byne]

CoolioThane wrote...

Very surprised I wasn't banned, I must say. Sorry for getting a bit annoyed everyone. Shouldn't happen again if I take a few seconds and refuse to respond to trolls

To be honest, so am I.

Also, I somehow dont think a 24 hour ban will change Rif's stance.

[CoolioThane]

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Very surprised I wasn't banned, I must say. Sorry for getting a bit annoyed everyone. Shouldn't happen again if I take a few seconds and refuse to respond to trolls

To be honest, so am I.

Also, I somehow dont think a 24 hour ban will change Rif's stance.

Not going to say she didn't deserve most of it though 

In fact I think it might, rightly, cement his stance even further, 

[CoolioThane]

Haha, the team I'm in on Marvel Avengers Alliance is full of drama. It's literally like a soap opera. One told another he loved her over the phone and another's accusing her of cheating...sometimes life is grand.

Does anyone want to see my long, but probably already extensively covered piece on the "ending notes" paper?

[umadcommander]

CoolioThane wrote...

Haha, the team I'm in on Marvel Avengers Alliance is full of drama. It's literally like a soap opera. One told another he loved her over the phone and another's accusing her of cheating...sometimes life is grand.

Does anyone want to see my long, but probably already extensively covered piece on the "ending notes" paper?

you have a link?

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

Arguing about the 'science' involved in synthesis when literally all we know about it is that it puts circuits on things that shouldnt have circuits and makes people green is stupid.

This is an excellent summary of everything I missed until this page.  Synthesis also alters peoples' minds, but that's all we can say about it.

Norlond wrote...

I don't know why, but somehow this makes me think of the endings

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(click for larger version)

This is awesome, even the line about studying applies! And Calvin chose Refuse.

[Fur28]

CoolioThane wrote...

Haha, the team I'm in on Marvel Avengers Alliance is full of drama. It's literally like a soap opera. One told another he loved her over the phone and another's accusing her of cheating...sometimes life is grand.

Does anyone want to see my long, but probably already extensively covered piece on the "ending notes" paper?

is that the mmo? i didn´t know it already came out?

[CoolioThane]

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Modifié par CoolioThane, 05 janvier 2013 - 12:25 .

[CoolioThane]

Fur28 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Haha, the team I'm in on Marvel Avengers Alliance is full of drama. It's literally like a soap opera. One told another he loved her over the phone and another's accusing her of cheating...sometimes life is grand.

Does anyone want to see my long, but probably already extensively covered piece on the "ending notes" paper?

is that the mmo? i didn´t know it already came out?

No, it's a playdom/facebook game

The Marvel Heroes MMO comes out in Feb/March and is free to play online apparentl which is awesome! Deadpool is one of the starting characters apparently 

CoolioThane wrote...

 
Shepard Alive
Sense of hope
1) Finale 2) brave new world 3) symbolic

So is Shepard to live through the ending? A sense of hope, eh? Breath scene = hope, obviously. The scenes on Eden could be classed as hopeful as well?

1) Finale, obviously as we're at the end of the game

2) brave new world...1931 novel by Aldous Huxley about a "utopian" society. This clearly points towards synthesis, and interestingly enough, the brave new world the characters live in, just is. It might appear as a utopia, but I'd argue it to be a dystopia. Civilians have no freedom, no personal liberties and when one person finds he is aware, it is near impossible to break from this FORCED life. Babies are indoctrinated with propaganda to show their class is the best, whilst the others exist to perform needed functions. Any residual unhappiness is sorted out by pumping them full of antidepressant and hallucinogenic drugs.

I'm sure you can all see the parallels there with synthesis, and to me shows it to be a negative. Even without indicating IT/literal it does place synthesis in a bad light, so perhaps synth-supporters should read the book before bowing down to it.

3) Symbolic. This is our bread and butter. Control is symbolic of TIM, Synthesis of Saren and Destroy of Shepard/Anderson. It is no mistake that two of the three choices (Refuse is not a part of this, and I personally now believe refuse to be the wrong choice) are symbolic of the two main enemies of the series. It shows them to be wrong choices, and Destroy is the only true path.


Bomb - Sacrifice Self
Reaper - Take Control
Hybrid - blast goes out...

Okay, so Bomb=Destroy, we sacrifice ourself to save the Galaxy. 
Reaper=control, we do what TIM wants
Hybrid=Synthesis, the hybrid of organics and synthetics. Vague "blast goes out..." indicative of an unfinished idea for what would truly happen to Shepard? Or maybe the Crucible itself was originally to be used for synthesis, with destroy setting off a bomb and control...who knows?

That could put further evidence behind the crucible being a trap, as if that is right, the act of using the crucible leads to a brave new world scenerio therefore bad. 


Destroy Life - Creates Life -

Choice -> Catalyst -> Shepard's Essence

Destroying life creates life? Could that perhaps be the starchild's early explanation for the harvest? They destroy life of the current cycle so the life of the next can be created? As most of us believe, the circular logic of starchild is wrong.

The "ladder" type diagram interested me, and the first thing it made me think of was the layout of the decision chamber, with the three distinct areas of the choice, the starchild and the player...but wait, on the left "Choice, Catalyst, Shepard's Essence" - Essence, eh? Sounds to me like it could be Shepard's essence in the decision chamber and not Shepard's physical body. That provides some evidence for IT in my opinion.


Foreshadow -> Reaper (INSERT WORD HERE) -> said by reaper -> Weakness for Reapers

Device -> Foreshadowing

Device -> Vague Terms

Device -> Impacts Everything -> Reaper (INSERT WORD HERE)

Lots of foreshadowing for the ending choices? I think that's a given, looking back over the games with Saren/Overlord perhaps foreshadowing Synthesis, TIM/Cerberus foreshadowing Control and EVERYTHING ANYONE SAYS foreshadowing Destroy in ME3 [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

why use vague terms for the device(crucible) if there was not anything to hide. I'm therefore inferring the crucible is a trap/ there is a hell of a lot more to it that the Reapers don't want us to know.

I'm annoyed I can't read the word after "Reaper" but it is followed in the diagram by "said by reaper" (I think) and then "weakness for Reapers"  -> This is interesting and would like to hear anyone's thoughts on what this could relate to


Chain Reaction -> Ends Conflict -> "Ambiguous function" and "They say bomb"

This most likely referring to the chain reaction of the relays in the endings, and sticks with the "ambiguous function" of the crucible, as we are still not clear on what the **** it does, truly. "They say bomb"...could this mean there is more to Destroy than meets the eye as well? Could mean breath scene but could perhaps warn us that it is not truly a "bomb"...

as the chain reaction was part of the ending from the start, I find it very unlikely they'd make the mistake they did make with them by accident. It's done on purpose from a relay that does not exist in the game.


Endings - how do they feel?

brave new world + End of the First Matrix

I guess they're asking ME how they feel. Well, Control feels very sinister, very "Germany i the 30's and 40's", Synthesis feels like a ****ing abomination and a disgusting pile of **** on the face of a DYSTOPIAN wankfest. Destroy is good, I like it. Refuse is depressing and wrong.

brave new world again, they seem to want to put across the whole "utopia on the face, creepy, disturbing dystopia below". The end of the first matrix is another interesting thing to write. At the end of The Matrix, Agent Smith kills Neo inside the Matrix, meaning he dies in real life. Trinity kisses real life dead-Neo and he lives again...this time at full NEO power and easily defeats Smith before getting out of the Matrix in time to destroy all of the synthetic sentinels attacking the ship.

well, well, well...sounds awful similar to IT if you ask me We die in the decision chamber...yet with a high enough EMS we wake up in rubble on Earth. So...do you think having a high enough EMS is like the Trinity kiss and we go on to defeat the synthetic sentinels attacking? Death to the Reaper scum!


Shepard's Death

Theories about all things

Boy But why did he have to die?

Sheapard dying is a pretty common theme across all four endings except high-EMS destroy. Theories about all things is kinda funny, as it is exactly what is happening. Have we cottoned on to the true theory? IMO yes, but only they know.

Boy "But why did he have to die?" - Perhaps the original line that the stargazer child says at the Wintersun scene? Interesting if we survive in High EMS Destroy though [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

AND FINALLY

Yes...yes indeed you sadistic bastards [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Hope you liked this, it's not very detailed and I'm sorry but thought we could talk about something.

Here it is again - pretty rubbish but meh!

Also the INSERT WORD HERE is thought to be Anatomy and then "Seed" below which is interesting :happy:

Modifié par CoolioThane, 05 janvier 2013 - 12:26 .

[Fur28]

CoolioThane wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Haha, the team I'm in on Marvel Avengers Alliance is full of drama. It's literally like a soap opera. One told another he loved her over the phone and another's accusing her of cheating...sometimes life is grand.

Does anyone want to see my long, but probably already extensively covered piece on the "ending notes" paper?

is that the mmo? i didn´t know it already came out?

No, it's a playdom/facebook game

The Marvel Heroes MMO comes out in Feb/March and is free to play online apparentl which is awesome! Deadpool is one of the starting characters apparently 

Not playing as Deadpool should be considered as a capital crime, I cant wait to buy his game, i´m so preordering is it comes with neat stuff