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byne wrote...

The "boss fights feel too video gamey" thread is still marked as an announcement thread for some reason...


Yea, I keep wondering what's up with that.

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byne wrote...

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Jade seems to have a right stick up her arse about "zealots" lol


Last I saw, anyone who used a word she didnt like to claim they believed IT was true was a zealot. I like Jade but she needs to calm down a bit.

Do you mean on the PT thread? Or here?

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draconian139 wrote...

byne wrote...

The "boss fights feel too video gamey" thread is still marked as an announcement thread for some reason...


Yea, I keep wondering what's up with that.


It's a strange thread to make into a sticky. It's not all that complimentary towards Bioware.

Do different moderators have different levels of site privileges? Maybe someone stickied it by mistake, right before going on holiday, and there's no-one working with the authority to fix it?

Unless... they really are sounding out ideas for future content? (he wrote, trying not to get his hopes up)

Modifié par Eryri, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:14 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Jade seems to have a right stick up her arse about "zealots" lol


Last I saw, anyone who used a word she didnt like to claim they believed IT was true was a zealot. I like Jade but she needs to calm down a bit.

Do you mean on the PT thread? Or here?


Here. Dont think I've ever gone to the PT thread.

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PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.

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dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Jade seems to have a right stick up her arse about "zealots" lol


Last I saw, anyone who used a word she didnt like to claim they believed IT was true was a zealot. I like Jade but she needs to calm down a bit.

Do you mean on the PT thread? Or here?


Here. Dont think I've ever gone to the PT thread.

CT, can you do me a huge favour and not bring up people's names anymore. I've noticed that if you bring Megumi up, we start a hate-off. Same thing might happen with Jade, and we don't want to have everyone hate each other, nor yell at each other and be off-topic. Let's just move on? Or we'll tear each other apart.

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byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

At its base it simply states that the endings will be clarified via DLC. Many aspects go hand-in-hand with IT, some don't. It's one of the only other sane places on BSN, and really the only other optimistic ending theory, so let's not make enemies there shall we?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

CT, can you do me a huge favour and not bring up people's names anymore. I've noticed that if you bring Megumi up, we start a hate-off. Same thing might happen with Jade, and we don't want to have everyone hate each other, nor yell at each other and be off-topic. Let's just move on? Or we'll tear each other apart.


To be fair, DD brought up PT first.

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Hello everyone have I missed anything these past few days?

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byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Puzzle theory still relies on indoctrination.  

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

CT, can you do me a huge favour and not bring up people's names anymore. I've noticed that if you bring Megumi up, we start a hate-off. Same thing might happen with Jade, and we don't want to have everyone hate each other, nor yell at each other and be off-topic. Let's just move on? Or we'll tear each other apart.


People asked what happened with rif, I 'splained.

DD brought up PT which is Jade's so I reminisced about last time she was here and insulted me...

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byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Both theories want  a different ending that the one we got, so thats a relation
But IT is more of an interpretation

Modifié par Fur28, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:27 .


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dorktainian wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Puzzle theory still relies on indoctrination.  


It doesn't, does it? In the future Refuse leads to conventional winning or whatever - that involves no waking up...just winning by refusing to do anything...seems kind of silly

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LadySuspense wrote...

Hello everyone have I missed anything these past few days?

Hey! Good to see you. I just got back too. We're losing people it sounds like. Rif got a 24 hour ban, and we're not sure if he'll return. BleedingUranium got one a few days ago, Spotless left, and people are yelling :(

Let's get along! By the way, let me know if you ever want to do some ME3 on 360.

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Fur28 wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Both theories want  a different ending that the one we got, so thats a relation
But IT is more of an interpretation

Remember: IT doesn't need or want a "different" ending.

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CoolioThane wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Puzzle theory still relies on indoctrination.  


It doesn't, does it? In the future Refuse leads to conventional winning or whatever - that involves no waking up...just winning by refusing to do anything...seems kind of silly

PT can be many things, like IT can be many things. They both have subsets and individual interpretations.

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CoolioThane wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Puzzle theory still relies on indoctrination.  


It doesn't, does it? In the future Refuse leads to conventional winning or whatever - that involves no waking up...just winning by refusing to do anything...seems kind of silly

Maybe it´s waking up after refusing, then using your DLC army to win

Modifié par Fur28, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:30 .


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dorktainian wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Puzzle theory still relies on indoctrination.  


Yeah, as far as I understand PT, it still posits that the Brat is lying to us, just that Destroy is yet another one of it's lies.

TBH, I'd be happy with any theory that gave us a happy ending and wasn't ridden with plot holes. At the moment IT edges ahead for me, as it can erase all nonsense from the Mako crash onwards, and means that the ghastly, immersion-breaking sorcery that is synthesis is just a pipe dream. But I'd still be happy if something like PT turned out to be Bioware's plan.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Both theories want  a different ending that the one we got, so thats a relation
But IT is more of an interpretation

Remember: IT doesn't need or want a "different" ending.

right forgot, it´s a expansion wasn´t it, after the current ending, no?

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CoolioThane wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

byne wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

PT & IT are very closely related. She's alright is Jade.


Isnt PT the idea that tne endings are literal, but that some time in the future, victory through refusing will be possible?

I dont really see how thats related to IT.

Puzzle theory still relies on indoctrination.  


It doesn't, does it? In the future Refuse leads to conventional winning or whatever - that involves no waking up...just winning by refusing to do anything...seems kind of silly

head over to the refusal thread and do some research.  they are not as voiciferous as ITers but they make some great points.  

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360 is still down for the time being sadly Banshee. Also you still have me here and I have convinced my bf that IT is a sound theory (if not what we both think is the actual ending.) The fighting will blow over. I mean according to what I read somewhere earlier we will get the main Bioware team back on the forums soon which sould mean that we get some news or at least something new to speculate on.

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I will hazard a guess that the arrival of the Bioware team back at work will herald an announcement of some kind

Touch wood

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LadySuspense wrote...

360 is still down for the time being sadly Banshee. Also you still have me here and I have convinced my bf that IT is a sound theory (if not what we both think is the actual ending.) The fighting will blow over. I mean according to what I read somewhere earlier we will get the main Bioware team back on the forums soon which sould mean that we get some news or at least something new to speculate on.

Yeah, hopefully. Glad to hear your BF has some sense :P

I'm on top twice in a row!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:37 .


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hope so coolio. hope so indeed.