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[lex0r11]

Kulbelbolka wrote...

Maybe it had been already discussed, but I think that I can hear «SERVE US» while fighting with Collectors in multiplayer. It's the same sound as in Extended Cut, but more faster and higher.

Yes, it was mentioned before. Some say they can hear it with their headphones, others say they don't hear anything at all or something else entirely.

It is very unintelligible, may it be based on opinion or speaker quality.

Modifié par lex0r11, 06 janvier 2013 - 03:20 .

[401 Kill]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Sorry about this... But can anybody tell me all the names in Blur's signature past Samara? It cuts off right there for me and I don't know who is below.

IT: Anderson, Ashley, Bryson, EDI, Garrus, Grunt, Hackett, Jacob, James, Javik, Legion, Liara, Rachni Queen, Samara
Destroy: EDI, Garrus, Geth, Jack, Legion, Mordin, Rachni Queen, Samara, Wrex, Zaeed
Post-End: Black Arks, Cruisers, Garrus, GX12, Jacob, James, Kasumi, Miranda, Rachni Queen, Rio

Thank you:).

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Norlond wrote...
The Citadel arms are opened with a 180° angle and it's rotating to imitate gravity on the arms when in "normal mode"... Doesn't that mean that EVERYONE on the Citadel should be dead when this happens, even before the explosion?

Absolutely! That is, of course, if they didn't get rid of the purpose for rotation and 'just' figured out how to simulate gravity...just like indoctrination shields were figured out for Sovereign's wreckage parts.

But other than that, yeah. At least the cab drivers should have a hell of a nice outlook for a few moments.

Gravity on ships isn't established by rotation, I never got why the Citadel needs rotate actually.

[MegumiAzusa]

Linkforlife wrote...

demersel wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Linkforlife wrote...

demersel wrote...

By the way, why do we always assume that it is sthe reapers the ones who closed the arms on the citadel?

It could have been TIM, like how Saren did it to protect Sovereign. But the issue is *where* the Crucible docks. If you watch the cutscene of where it connects, it is the underside of the Citadel tower, although it flies into the Citadel's arms like Sovereign did. Then again, there IS that retractable dome that covers most of that end and you still need to be retracted to make it dock.

dat implication!

Actually the back end of the citadel also has those retractable trianlge things - so the crucible docks the correct side. But implications are nice .

I mentioned the retractable triangle things, they close to form a dome around it that is partly open at what looks to be where the Citadel tower is (watch the cutscene of the Reapers heading to Earth and the beam is turned off).

No, the Citadel always closes completely. There is just a darker part on that end, like the darker parts along the arms.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 06 janvier 2013 - 03:29 .

[Norlond]

So I did the math for the Citadel opening 180°

If you're near the presidium when it happens, you'll fly away at v ~ 8.01 m/s
If you're at the "upper end" of one of the arms, you'll fly away at v ~ 22.61 m/s
So regardless of where you are, you'll bee goo on a wall

I think I did it right, but maybe someone else could confirm/deny this, haven't done mechanics in a while, too busy doing quantum crap

[MegumiAzusa]

Norlond wrote...

So I did the math for the Citadel opening 180°

If you're near the presidium when it happens, you'll fly away at v ~ 8.01 m/s
If you're at the "upper end" of one of the arms, you'll fly away at v ~ 22.61 m/s
So regardless of where you are, you'll bee goo on a wall

I think I did it right, but maybe someone else could confirm/deny this, haven't done mechanics in a while, too busy doing quantum crap

Mass effect fields can lower that effect. I mean just closing the Citadel or opening it happens at quite some speed and without inertial dampening I don't think closing is comfortable and I could imagine you might loose the ground under your feet when it's opening.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 06 janvier 2013 - 03:41 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Hello Everyone

Anything big happen the last few days? Was gone on a 3 day trip to Lubeck (Germany) to celebrate my mother's 50 year's Birthday.

[MaximizedAction]

Norlond wrote...

So I did the math for the Citadel opening 180°

If you're near the presidium when it happens, you'll fly away at v ~ 8.01 m/s
If you're at the "upper end" of one of the arms, you'll fly away at v ~ 22.61 m/s
So regardless of where you are, you'll bee goo on a wall

I think I did it right, but maybe someone else could confirm/deny this, haven't done mechanics in a while, too busy doing quantum crap

I don't have the numbers (like frequency of rotation) but I assume that you neglected the opening process and assumed them to open up to 180° instantly.
And those velocities are frequency times distance from the presidium tower, since I guess (since no other radial force should be acting on the people while being on the arms)?

Also, apparently I missed that the Citadel was rotating while opening up...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 06 janvier 2013 - 03:55 .

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Norlond wrote...

So I did the math for the Citadel opening 180°

If you're near the presidium when it happens, you'll fly away at v ~ 8.01 m/s
If you're at the "upper end" of one of the arms, you'll fly away at v ~ 22.61 m/s
So regardless of where you are, you'll bee goo on a wall

I think I did it right, but maybe someone else could confirm/deny this, haven't done mechanics in a while, too busy doing quantum crap

I don't have the numbers (like frequency of rotation) but I assume that you neglected the opening process and assumed them to open up to 180° instantly.
And those velocities are frequency times distance from the presidium tower, since I guess (since no other radial force should be acting on the people while being on the arms)?

Also, apparently I missed that the Citadel was rotating while opening up...

Yup, it does rotate.

[Rosewind]

Looks a bit like a tampon to me.

[dorktainian]

its a magic wand

[Linkforlife]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Linkforlife wrote...

demersel wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Linkforlife wrote...

demersel wrote...

By the way, why do we always assume that it is sthe reapers the ones who closed the arms on the citadel?

It could have been TIM, like how Saren did it to protect Sovereign. But the issue is *where* the Crucible docks. If you watch the cutscene of where it connects, it is the underside of the Citadel tower, although it flies into the Citadel's arms like Sovereign did. Then again, there IS that retractable dome that covers most of that end and you still need to be retracted to make it dock.

dat implication!

Actually the back end of the citadel also has those retractable trianlge things - so the crucible docks the correct side. But implications are nice .

I mentioned the retractable triangle things, they close to form a dome around it that is partly open at what looks to be where the Citadel tower is (watch the cutscene of the Reapers heading to Earth and the beam is turned off).

No, the Citadel always closes completely. There is just a darker part on that end, like the darker parts along the arms.

Those images still bring up the point of the Crucible docking on the wrong side from where it was going into the Citadel.

[Norlond]

You're right Megumi, it says that "most (not all) of the gravity on the station is generated by the centrifugal force of rotation."
So let's say the actual velocities are only half of those I posted (-> 4.005 m/s, 11.305 m/s), that's still fast enough to crush every bone (except krogan?)

@Maximized: Well they're not opening instantly, but still quite fast, considering the size of the arms
I'd say it's like collective falling down, sliding, bumping into stuff and each other, and in the end flying around

[dorktainian]

how did the arms open up so wide?

[ElSuperGecko]

In this topic:  People saying that the Prothean beacon vision wasn't a warning, then posting videos where Javik tells us the Prothean beacon vision was a warning to support their argument...

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
Yup, it does rotate.

Ok, so assuming the rotation's the same while opening up the arms (which, btw, is horrible energy-wise: due to conservation of angular momentum it should take the Citadel an awful lot of energy to keep the rotation constant while opening up -- see what figure skaters do when they stretch out their arms)
and taking the data from the ME wiki:

The Citadel should be rotating at 1 rotation per 2.6 min.

So the force acting on someone idling around at the end of one of the arms should be more than 7G (I find that easier to imagine than a velocity).
Sucks to be there, since that person would probably not have a jet seatbelt on them.

But hey, there are probably a ton of mass effect fields installed for exactly that kind of emergency.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 06 janvier 2013 - 04:20 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Linkforlife wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Linkforlife wrote...

demersel wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Linkforlife wrote...

demersel wrote...

By the way, why do we always assume that it is sthe reapers the ones who closed the arms on the citadel?

It could have been TIM, like how Saren did it to protect Sovereign. But the issue is *where* the Crucible docks. If you watch the cutscene of where it connects, it is the underside of the Citadel tower, although it flies into the Citadel's arms like Sovereign did. Then again, there IS that retractable dome that covers most of that end and you still need to be retracted to make it dock.

dat implication!

Actually the back end of the citadel also has those retractable trianlge things - so the crucible docks the correct side. But implications are nice .

I mentioned the retractable triangle things, they close to form a dome around it that is partly open at what looks to be where the Citadel tower is (watch the cutscene of the Reapers heading to Earth and the beam is turned off).

No, the Citadel always closes completely. There is just a darker part on that end, like the darker parts along the arms.

Those images still bring up the point of the Crucible docking on the wrong side from where it was going into the Citadel.

The magic of a U-turn
keep in mind that part faces Earth so the Crucible first has to move between them from whatever angle it's coming from.

[Andromidius]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

In this topic:  People saying that the Prothean beacon vision wasn't a warning, then posting videos where Javik tells us the Prothean beacon vision was a warning to support their argument...

/facepalm

And yeah, I imagine there's redundant Mass Effect fields built into the Citadel for when it opens and closes.  It probably just spins to simulate gravity to conserve energy.

[lex0r11]

Rosewind wrote...

Looks a bit like a tampon to me.

Is that your professional speculation on this, Rose.?

[Andromidius]

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Looks a bit like a tampon to me.

Is that your professional speculation on this, Rose.?

Either that or a suppository.

Regardless, its designed for something huge!

[Linkforlife]

@Megumi
Those images bring up another interesting point then: there is at least one Sovereign-class Reaper in the way, why did it let the Crucible dock? We do not see it destroyed. Then of course it disappears completely in your second image.

Modifié par Linkforlife, 06 janvier 2013 - 04:30 .

[dorktainian]

heres a thought.

the male connector., crudible.
connects to the female connector. citadel.

[demersel]

dorktainian wrote...

heres a thought.

the male connector., crudible.
connects to the female connector. citadel.

Yep. And thus the true starchild is born.

[Rosewind]

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Looks a bit like a tampon to me.

Is that your professional speculation on this, Rose.?

Pretty much, dont have anything else to add lol

[Norlond]

Wait, am I stupid or is it just ridiculous or is the cinematic sped up? According to the end cinematic, the arms take ~25s to move 90°
The arms are 44.7km long
Contructing a circle to determine the way the outer parts of the arms traveled: 44.7km*2*pi ~ 281km for circumference
281km/4 = 70.25 km (way of the top of the arms)
70.25km/25s = 2.81km/s = 2810m/s (speed of tops)

Wat?

So what is it: Did I forget everything about geometry within a few weeks of doing algebra? Or is that just ridiculous?