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MegumiAzusa wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

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*snip*

Oh for the love of...

That looks like a serious old version :P
Try ticking in the checkbox for the beta versions, they are much better
like this


At least you guys have color, I'm playing ME3 in greyscale here

That looks like a text file, and I don't think you're playing ME on any Mac OS :P


Never doubt the resourcefulness of an otter with a mac classic, some tape, glue, and some sticks.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

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While we are on the subject of old enemies like the Scion. Does anyone know if the Collectors are still around in ME3. I know their base was blown up, but that does not mean they were all obliterated. There must be some out there somewhere.
And second, would you guys like them to return as enemies in ME3?

Yes, I would. Anyway, Firebase Hive (the last colletor ship) is as of now the only leaked material that has not been confirmed. It was leaked with the Earth DLC I believe, and the Earth leak was 100% correct. Also, my favourite reason for Collectors being in MP would be that they are a biotic enemy. That means a few things.
1. We can fight enemies with barriers that aren't super though/use certain powers and ammo types much more effectively.
2. They can use biotics against us which was lacking hardcore in ME3.
3. In MP, certain classes are generally good against certain enemies: Reapers=combat/soldiers, Geth=tech/engineers, Cerberus=all three/everything. That leaves a significant gap.
Collectors=Biotics/Adepts (Fixed the gap Posted Image)


I saw it more like:
Cerberus = combat
Geth = tech
Collectors = biotic
Reapers = all 3 (Cannibals for combat, Mauraders for tech, Banshees for biotic?)

Not in terms of 'strengths/weaknesses' though, like you did - but rather in what they represent. I can see the Collectors being added as a faction to fight, and single player DLC being added that has 1-3 missions with them (with or without side-missions as well).


The Maruders aren't all that "tech" though are they? Cerberus has deployable turrets and Combat Engineers which improve the performance of machinery around them.


Hmm yeah, good point.

Reapers = Combat
Geth = Tech
Collectors = Biotic
Cerberus = all 3

Sound good? (I know this was already previously said)

I kinda miss the mercs of ME2. Kinda. Sorta. Mostly the batarian death sounds.

Hey guys, I was reading up on the Miracle at Palaven codex and it mentions the Collectors, I think.

"The Reapers did not understand the seriousness of the threat at first--those that detected the landing crafts sent husks and Collector swarms to intercept them, but little more. This allowed krogan commandos to link up with Palaven's resistance and hand off their payloads--warp bombs and fission weapons."

I don't know if this is saying that Reapers sent Seeker swarms or swarms of Collectors. I hope it means swarms of Collector troops b/c that means BW has the ME3 codex to back them up if they want to add the Collectors back into the game series in ME3.
What do you guys think?

No, the swarms of the "tiny" insects are referred to as Collector swarms.

No they're referred to as Seeker Swarms in ME2.
This is why it's strange that the codex mentions Collector Swarms and not Seeker Swarms. These "Collector Swarms" are an unkown enemy.

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Nice pyramid we've got there.

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Freddy um they are also called Collector swarms too, like who Cerberus troopers are nickedd named shock troopers.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

At least you guys have color, I'm playing ME3 in greyscale here

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*insert blue green red ending color joke here*

That Mac OS version looks like good times!


plfranke wrote...

well you can look up "the truth dlc" and
find where those leaks came from. Interestingly enough, with everything
that guy predicted he had to of had some inside source which really
makes you wonder if a "the truth" dlc is still coming.


Man, I forgot about the "The Truth" leak. Let's hope they didn't catch the leak source...after what Mike Gamble tweeted about having a hunch who that might be...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 09 août 2012 - 11:16 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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I always thought that the scions should have appeared as the Reaper siege units if you killed the Rachni Queen in ME 1.  You know, have Grunt's team discover a facotry where Reapers were experimenting on advanced scion models or something.  I say this because I thought the Rachni Queen was done a bit of a disservice in ME 3, but I know I'm not preaching anything new there haha

Actually, they were originally going to do a completely different mission if you killed the queen. It was cut though, because it was too taxing. Like the player losing control of Shep completely.


That's a lie. I've seen the very first leaks of the leaked scrips back in november, the rachni-queen quest was described exactly as it is right now. Nothing has changed. The rachni-queen plot has always been as retarded as it is right now from the very beginning, the leaked scripts from november confirm it.

Not what I heard. Besides, you can't believe all you read from leaked scripts.


You heard wrong. And yes, I could believe all I read from leaked scripts, because I ripped those leaked scripts myself from the actual leaked ME3 demo. Most long-term members here might remember that back in novembert the singleplayer demo of ME3 leaked on Xbox360 Live. It was online only really briefly. 3 hours after it was uploaded, it was taken offline again.

I was one of the lucky few who managed to get his hands on this (unfinished) demo of ME3. When the first leaked scripts leaked on the internet, they said it was ripped from the leaked ME3 demo files. I was skeptical, but since I had the leaked demo myself, I was able to check it myself.

Since I'm a tech-geek, it was not difficult for me to load the leaked ME3 demo files on my computer. After getting it on my computer, I started digging and indeed I found the script of ME3 hidden in the demo's files.


So yes, the leak was real. And no, the rachni-queen plot was never any different than it is right now in the final game. Sorry to break your bubble.

1. I didn't say it was cut late in development (November)
2. I'm still not convinced the leaked script/demo wasn't intentional in some way. Plots don't change much 3 months before release.


I'm with you Banshee.  Yes, the ripped scripts (which I didn't read) may have very likely contained the current Rachni Queen mission/scenario.  However, this script was the finalized (or near finalized version) at the end of a 2 year long project.  Scripts go through lots of iterations before game release, the writers likely adjusted the Rachni scripting to account for gameply issues, as Banshee is suggesting.  Such modifications happen all the time in gaming

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MaximizedAction wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

At least you guys have color, I'm playing ME3 in greyscale here

*snip pic*

*insert blue green red ending color joke here*

That Mac OS version looks like good times!


plfranke wrote...

well you can look up "the truth dlc" and
find where those leaks came from. Interestingly enough, with everything
that guy predicted he had to of had some inside source which really
makes you wonder if a "the truth" dlc is still coming.


Man, I forgot about the "The Truth" leak. Let's hope they didn't catch the leak source...after what Mike Gamble tweeted about having a hunch who that might be...


But I remember the guy who leaked the three MP DLC's said that he wasn't the one who leaked "The Truth".

Modifié par JasonSic, 09 août 2012 - 11:19 .


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Freddy um they are also called Collector swarms too, like who Cerberus troopers are nickedd named shock troopers.

If you can provide a scene where the Seeker swarms are also called Collector Swarms, then you might have a point. Otherwise, the "Collector Swarms" remain unidentified.

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So what was the truth dlc about again, it's been four months, so I forgot.

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So what was the truth dlc about again, it's been four months, so I forgot.


It’s called The Truth and it’s being released in April or May. You WILL be able to continue the story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during that sequence will have a big effect on your ending of The Truth. The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining collector ship included in the DLC, which, by the way you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have him.

Sounds cool, but I don't think it's gonna happen. It's August already anyway.

Modifié par JasonSic, 09 août 2012 - 11:22 .


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Jason, or maybe it will happen next year. Think about it even though that guy was right about some of the stuff he told us, that doesn't mean this could happen next year.

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masster blaster wrote...

Jason, or maybe it will happen next year. Think about it even though that guy was right about some of the stuff he told us, that doesn't mean this could happen next year.


Talkin' 'bout easter eggs, huh? ;)

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 09 août 2012 - 11:38 .


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Yes I am talking about Easter eggs Max for next year.=)

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MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Jason, or maybe it will happen next year. Think about it even though that guy was right about some of the stuff he told us, that doesn't mean this could happen next year.


Talkin' 'bout easter eggs, huh? ;)


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JasonSic wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So what was the truth dlc about again, it's been four months, so I forgot.


It’s called The Truth and it’s being released in April or May. You WILL be able to continue the story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during that sequence will have a big effect on your ending of The Truth. The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining collector ship included in the DLC, which, by the way you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have him.

Sounds cool, but I don't think it's gonna happen. It's August already anyway.


Extended Cut would have pushed back their plans/adjusted them. It could be set for this year.

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Jason, or maybe it will happen next year. Think about it even though that guy was right about some of the stuff he told us, that doesn't mean this could happen next year.


I'm calling it, 5/10/2013 Bioware will unleash Mass Effect 3 DLC "Awakening" The fate of the galaxy rests in your hands as you face off against Harbinger. Finish the fight against the reapers as you fight through the citadel in a race against Cerberus to control the crucible. It's time to wake up and end the reaper nightmare.  $12.99 Origin.

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JasonSic wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So what was the truth dlc about again, it's been four months, so I forgot.


It’s called The Truth and it’s being released in April or May. You WILL be able to continue the story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during that sequence will have a big effect on your ending of The Truth. The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining collector ship included in the DLC, which, by the way you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have him.

Sounds cool, but I don't think it's gonna happen. It's August already anyway.


Where is this from?

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masster blaster wrote...

Jason, or maybe it will happen next year. Think about it even though that guy was right about some of the stuff he told us, that doesn't mean this could happen next year.


I'm calling it, 5/10/2013 Bioware will unleash Mass Effect 3 DLC "Awakening" The fate of the galaxy rests in your hands as you face off against Harbinger. Finish the fight against the reapers as you fight through the citadel in a race against Cerberus to control the crucible. It's time to wake up and end the reaper nightmare.  $12.99 Origin.






-Leviathan, Reaper related DLC
-Omega, Cerberus related DLC
-geth related DLC???
-Palavan DLC??? I say this because I think it was mentioned by Bioware somewhere at some point
-'The Truth'/Collector related DLC?

Man, I think that'd all be DLC for a while. Maybe all of the major single player DLC

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Freddy here it is.

Though no swarms are seen in Mass Effect 3, it is mentioned in the codex that during the war on Palaven, "Collector swarms" were used by the Reapers. It is unknown if this refers to the seeker swarms or the Collectors themselves.

here is the site

http://masseffect.wi...i/Seeker_swarms

Modifié par masster blaster, 09 août 2012 - 11:51 .


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Tape glue and sticks? Bull! Admit it! You cheated and used omni gel

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So I was watching Bookends of Destruction, a youtube documentary that someone else posted a link to earlier in the thread, and something hit me.

In the very beginning, Shepard seems to have forgotten the whole importance of securing the Citadel during a Reaper invasion. Point of fact, he wants to stay on Earth. With the Reapers. "The Citadel? The fight's here!" Anderson has to point Shepard in the right direction and make it clear that they need to go to the Citadel, much like snapping Shepard out of his trance when he was talking to Vent Boy.

Yet by the time the Normandy (which is Anderson's ship and mobile command center remodeled for him to use in precisely this sort of situation) arrives, Anderson doesn't want to leave either. The potentially former councilor doesn't want to deal with the Council, not even if Shepard was the one who allowed the last Council to be blown up or had a habit of cutting off communications and hurling insults at the galaxy's highest ranking diplomats. No, the space admiral instead wants to lead the ground war.

So what if the Reapers are sending out a subtle impression of "stand and fight" via their indoctrination signal? Shepard would be more susceptible to it given his past exposures to Reaper tech. Anderson less so, but eventually it'd wear into him as well. It sure would help explain Shepard's insistence at the beginning that fighting the Reapers isn't about strategy or tactics, but rather fighting or dying, because the Reapers are already projecting impressions to help ensure that all potential resistance stands up right now to be accounted for (re: to be killed, captured, or routed). The illogical, suicidal nature of decrying tactics right before resolving to fight to the death stands out as a potential clue regarding Shepard's mental state, does it not?

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 09 août 2012 - 11:52 .


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the geth related dlc should be something that makes you see that the quarians weren't just total jerks. they were painted too perfectly in that little story

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plfranke wrote...

the geth related dlc should be something that makes you see that the quarians weren't just total jerks. they were painted too perfectly in that little story


you also have to remeber that some Quarians did not want the geth to die, and were either killed, or arrested.

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SwobyJ wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Jason, or maybe it will happen next year. Think about it even though that guy was right about some of the stuff he told us, that doesn't mean this could happen next year.


I'm calling it, 5/10/2013 Bioware will unleash Mass Effect 3 DLC "Awakening" The fate of the galaxy rests in your hands as you face off against Harbinger. Finish the fight against the reapers as you fight through the citadel in a race against Cerberus to control the crucible. It's time to wake up and end the reaper nightmare.  $12.99 Origin.






-Leviathan, Reaper related DLC
-Omega, Cerberus related DLC
-geth related DLC???
-Palavan DLC??? I say this because I think it was mentioned by Bioware somewhere at some point
-'The Truth'/Collector related DLC?

Man, I think that'd all be DLC for a while. Maybe all of the major single player DLC


Illium DLC, i'm calling it!  Posted Image

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http://social.biowar...ndex/10821908/1

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Since were calling DLC


Feros DLC. Because Shiala. And because it would be awesome to bring Javik to a Prothean city! (There are actually a lot of reasons for a Feros DLC but these are some of the most important ones!