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[Fur28]

CoolioThane wrote...

OMG Fur, you watch It's Always Sunny too? You're like a cooler version of me

Top for Fur's coolness 

Why thak you sir. But remember you may surpass my coolness if you apply the D.E.N.N.I.S succesfully or manage to eat cereal while driving without droping it.

Aldo goddamit couldn´t get my Marvel comics for this week, well DC comics will have to do

[Fur28]

Huh, Mac´s speech in the last season episode can also be kind of applied to the what the Catalyst says.

[Carmin_Steele]

Reposting from several.. well, hundred... pages back.

masster blaster wrote...

Carmin. Reaper where on Mars. In ME1 if you helped Shiala, and accepted the locket. You go on a planet that she tells you to go, and you find a Prothean/ Leviathan orb. Now what's intresting is that the Protheans were experimenting on a Human, and the next time Shepard sees the human a Reaper like discription kill the Human, and the last words you read are " this human was from Mars." Well similar in a way.

Also if they did, then why are they not alive?

... uhm.... what? What I interpreted out of that was that the Protheans were experimenting, and the drone that you read about was a Prothean drone. It didn't KILL the human, but merely sedated it for study. That's what I got out of the passage. How else would it end up on a Prothean datacore? If it was after the Reaper invasion, it wouldn't have been scattered that far.

[BleedingUranium]

Carmin_Steele wrote...

Reposting from several.. well, hundred... pages back.

masster blaster wrote...

Carmin. Reaper where on Mars. In ME1 if you helped Shiala, and accepted the locket. You go on a planet that she tells you to go, and you find a Prothean/ Leviathan orb. Now what's intresting is that the Protheans were experimenting on a Human, and the next time Shepard sees the human a Reaper like discription kill the Human, and the last words you read are " this human was from Mars." Well similar in a way.

Also if they did, then why are they not alive?

... uhm.... what? What I interpreted out of that was that the Protheans were experimenting, and the drone that you read about was a Prothean drone. It didn't KILL the human, but merely sedated it for study. That's what I got out of the passage. How else would it end up on a Prothean datacore? If it was after the Reaper invasion, it wouldn't have been scattered that far.

That message had nothing to do with Mars, but he seems to be correct otherwise. The human was sedated and implanted with a monitoring device, then a long time later was killed what sounds like an Oculus.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:19 .

[CoolioThane]

MAC

Move in After Completion - Post end DLC lol

[Carmin_Steele]

Yes, I got that part, my question stems more to the ... doh, the other comment wasn't answered yet, or I didn't post the correct one. My man question that I wanted to get out there was the question...


"Are we now proposing that all of the 'Prothean' data orbs we encountered in the 3 games, more specifically as far back as ME1, are ALL in fact Leviathan orbs instead?


edit:: -- Also, yes, I realize it was killed by an Oculus-like object as well, however, my question still remains, if it were a REAPER oculous, then how did the memory/datadownloand end up on (sp?) Elantra, several thousand of light years away, if that human were killed after the invasion had begun?

Modifié par Carmin_Steele, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:24 .

[Hrothdane]

I'm heading out of town tomorrow morning and won't be back until Thursday night, so you guys probably won't see me around. I'll have my phone, so I'll try to check up on things if I get some free time.

Hopefully, we will have some DLC news by the time I return.

[Fur28]

CoolioThane wrote...

MAC

Move in After Completion - Post end DLC lol

SCRAPS, giant size condoms and a bunch money
what we need to pay for that DLC

Modifié par Fur28, 07 janvier 2013 - 10:21 .

[BleedingUranium]

Hrothdane wrote...

I'm heading out of town tomorrow morning and won't be back until Thursday night, so you guys probably won't see me around. I'll have my phone, so I'll try to check up on things if I get some free time.

Hopefully, we will have some DLC news by the time I return.

Have fun!

Carmin_Steele wrote...

Yes, I got that part, my question stems more to the ... doh, the other comment wasn't answered yet, or I didn't post the correct one. My man question that I wanted to get out there was the question...


"Are we now proposing that all of the 'Prothean' data orbs we encountered in the 3 games, more specifically as far back as ME1, are ALL in fact Leviathan orbs instead?


edit:: -- Also, yes, I realize it was killed by an Oculus-like object as well, however, my question still remains, if it were a REAPER oculous, then how did the memory/datadownloand end up on (sp?) Elantra, several thousand of light years away, if that human were killed after the invasion had begun?

As for the orbs, some think that, but I think that's silly. The silver orbs in ME1/2 have nothing in common with Leviathan orbs, other than that they're spheres.


I think the Oculi were originally Prothean, but used by the Reapers (like Cerberus), as the share they same aesthetics as the Collector Black Arks and Base, which certainly started as Prothean, like Cerberus ships and Cronos Station.

The orbs (or some of them) are most likely connected, like the Beacons (and the internet), so the info could probably have been accessed from any of them, and the monitoring device likely transmited that info to said network, like how we can have footage from probes that crashed themselves into the moon (my guess).

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:35 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Carmin_Steele wrote...

Yes, I got that part, my question stems more to the ... doh, the other comment wasn't answered yet, or I didn't post the correct one. My man question that I wanted to get out there was the question...


"Are we now proposing that all of the 'Prothean' data orbs we encountered in the 3 games, more specifically as far back as ME1, are ALL in fact Leviathan orbs instead?


edit:: -- Also, yes, I realize it was killed by an Oculus-like object as well, however, my question still remains, if it were a REAPER oculous, then how did the memory/datadownloand end up on (sp?) Elantra, several thousand of light years away, if that human were killed after the invasion had begun?

As for the orbs, some think that, but I think that's silly. The silver orbs in ME1/2 have nothing in common with Leviathan orbs, other than that they're spheres.

I think the Oculi were originally Prothean, but used by the Reapers (like Cerberus), as the share they same aesthetics as the Collector Black Arks and Base, which certainly started as Prothean, like Cerberus ships and Cronos Station.

The orbs (or some of them) are most likely connected, like the Beacons (and the internet), so the info could probably have been accessed from any of them, and the monitoring device likely transmited that info to said network, like how we can have footage from probes that crashed themselves into the moon (my guess).

Exactly, the implant was preformed by Protheans. The Reapers attacked a few years later and detected the Prothean tech in that Cro-Magnum and thus sent a newly repurposed Occulus to eliminate it. However, the implant probably was transmitting 24/7 so the sphere on Eletania received all data until it's termination.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's late, so I'm going to bed. Goodnight guys, and if I'm not on by the time Chris shuts this place down, farewell Mk III.

[BleedingUranium]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Exactly, the implant was preformed by Protheans. The Reapers attacked a few years later and detected the Prothean tech in that Cro-Magnum and thus sent a newly repurposed Occulus to eliminate it. However, the implant probably was transmitting 24/7 so the sphere on Eletania received all data until it's termination.

You said that so much better than I did

Goodnight Revan!

[Carmin_Steele]

Which I would agree with, Blur.

My contention is with Masster's assertion, and ... I am not sure how anyone else here interprets it, but, Masster's belief was that the Reapers stopped by Mars to wipe out the Protheans there. That is something I disagree with. Now that I think about it, it may have been posted elsewhere by someone else and I just really liked the theory, but I can't remember now.

Anyway, science tells us that Mars used to have water, but now it doesn't, and the little that it does have is locked in the icecap. My conjector of the events was that the Prothean's erased as much of their contact on Earth, ie - destroying the human with the implant, then ferried as much of the water as they could from Mars to encase the Charon Relay in ice before leaving the system. I also suspect that this occured after the Reaper threat was realized.

I saw it as the Protheans protecting their meddling, to give Humans a chance against the Reapers in case they failed.

[Carmin_Steele]

I'm headed to bed as well. Revan's proposal doesn't cover why the mars data-caches were still intact, almost completely, nor why the Charon Relay was iced over.

But, bed. I'll return tomorrow!

[BleedingUranium]

Carmin_Steele wrote...

I'm headed to bed as well. Revan's proposal doesn't cover why the mars data-caches were still intact, almost completely, nor why the Charon Relay was iced over.

But, bed. I'll return tomorrow!

Your idea is entirely possible too, that message was very vague. Goodnight

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Carmin_Steele wrote...

I'm headed to bed as well. Revan's proposal doesn't cover why the mars data-caches were still intact, almost completely, nor why the Charon Relay was iced over.

But, bed. I'll return tomorrow!

I didn't know that was part of it. Let me try:
     The Prothean data caches could've been buried deep enough underground as to survive (Javik is with Shepard for that very reason as well). As for the Charon Relay being frozen, it's orbit is within the Oort Cloud, which is composed of tons of ice, so 50,000 years of no maintenance would result in it culminating over the relay.

     If the covering of ice was intentional, the Protheans would be unable to escape since they just sealed their only way out, and humanity hasn't discovered any derelict Prothean ships in the Sol System which has been mapped extensively since it is our home system.
Ok, now I'm going to bed.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 janvier 2013 - 09:04 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Carmin_Steele wrote...

I'm headed to bed as well. Revan's proposal doesn't cover why the mars data-caches were still intact, almost completely, nor why the Charon Relay was iced over.

But, bed. I'll return tomorrow!

The Prothean data caches could've been buried deep enough underground as to survive (Javik is with Shepard for that very reason as well). As for the Charon Relay being frozen, it's orbit is within the Oort Cloud, which is composed of tons of ice, so 50,000 years of no maintenance would result in it culminating over the relay.
If the covering of ice was intentional, the Protheans would be unable to escape since they just sealed their only way out, and humanity hasn't discovered any derelict Prothean ships in the Sol System which has been mapped extensively since it is our home system.
Ok, now I'm going to bed.

Actually the Prothean observation station on Mars supposedly had several ships which had been used for observation of Earth. However that raises several questions regarding said observation station.

Like how was it missed in that case? Ships need a way out of a base which means a part of it has to have been aboveground and not buried as it supposedly was. If that was the case how did the Reapers ever miss the base?

There is obviusly the possibility the Protheans buried it when the Reaper invasion started, but they were allready trapped in the Sol system by that point.

Finally a question i have often considered is how information about the Crucible found its way to the base on Mars. The Crucible was most likley built near Thessia considering a VI based of the Crucible Project overseer was found on Thessia. So how did information of it reach Mars when the Relay had been shut down?

A Possibility is the Prothean Beacon network which we knew was still operational, but we know from Vigil that the Reaper were able to trace communication through said network (the Prothean Sciencetists were afraid sending out a message through the network might reveal their location even if it seemed like the Reapers were gone). If so the data sent to the Mars Archive should have allowed the Reapers to trace it and locate the Mars Archive.

Maybe I am just looking to much into this though

[BleedingUranium]

I just read part of the Synthesis thread. The amount of stupid and headcanon there is just... ugh, my brain hurts.

[Fur28]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I just read part of the Synthesis thread. The amount of stupid and headcanon there is just... ugh, my brain hurts.

well what do you expect, the game doesn´t say anything about magic so logically they have nothing to back it up, so theories it is.
What do they headcanon BTW?

[BleedingUranium]

Fur28 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I just read part of the Synthesis thread. The amount of stupid and headcanon there is just... ugh, my brain hurts.

well what do you expect, the game doesn´t say anything about magic so logically they have nothing to back it up, so theories it is.
What do they headcanon BTW?

How it works, that there's no foreshadowing for it, even the title shows that: A Different Kind Of Ascension.  "It's not what Saren wanted or was!" "There's no Synthesis in Overlord!"

[dorktainian]

synthesis....yeah good idea batman

[Fur28]

BleedingUranium wrote...

How it works, that there's no foreshadowing for it, even the title shows that: A Different Kind Of Ascension.  "It's not what Saren wanted or was!" "There's no Synthesis in Overlord!"

No foreshadowing?, Saren?,Overlord?.
And are they admitting the Catalyst to be a Deus Ex then?

Modifié par Fur28, 07 janvier 2013 - 10:01 .

[Eryri]

Fur28 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I just read part of the Synthesis thread. The amount of stupid and headcanon there is just... ugh, my brain hurts.

well what do you expect, the game doesn´t say anything about magic so logically they have nothing to back it up, so theories it is.
What do they headcanon BTW?

How it works, that there's no foreshadowing for it, even the title shows that: A Different Kind Of Ascension.  "It's not what Saren wanted or was!" "There's no Synthesis in Overlord!"

Well....Indoctrinated:whistle: for the first part, and if i was in their posicion damn, it would be hella hard to come with some explanation aside from magic. 

No foreshadowing?, Saren?,Overlord?.
And are they admitting the Catalyst to be a Deus Ex with that?

My favourite bit of synthesis headcanon, is when they insist that the hideous green circuits over everything are just artistic license to represent microscopic changes.

They take everything else in the slideshow completely literally, but the green circuits are just so awful that even synthesis fans are too embarassed to accept them as real.

Btw - it's good to see spotless back on the boards.

[CosmicGnosis]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I just read part of the Synthesis thread. The amount of stupid and headcanon there is just... ugh, my brain hurts.

I can say the same for IT.

[paxxton]

Hi! Any news from BioWare?