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[Arian Dynas]

Gwyphon wrote...
Now I'm not really familiar with biomechanics but I believe the actions of swimming and flying are fundimentally different due to the density of water and bouyancy (displacing more than your weight in water causes you to float), or when swimming the only mass that you have to counteract with lift is your mass-mass of water displaced. Because water is more dense fish can rise by simply displacing water downwards (similar to a rocket, in a sense) which is very unlike a bird, who's flight mechanics are more so like a plane which relies on wing circulation to generate a lift force purpendicular to mass displacement (the engines displace air 90 degrees to the direction in which you want lift). 
Or something like that. I'm tired and don't really care for this. I think your understanding of fluid mechanics varies greatly depending on who lectured you.

Oh and one last thing, squid actually move in a method similar to a rocket, drawing in water and expelling it to provide locomotion, most species of fish (I said most, don't hurt me hypothetical icthyologist!) have a swim bladder, a sac filled with air that they can either fill or empty as they require, allowing them to rise or sink.

[Gwyphon]

Well there you go. I've never done a day of biology in my life.

And I'm no expert. There's always some one who knows more.  The number of times I read over what I wrote in fear of saying something wrong... I like my fathers approach to my engineering degree.

"Oh you're planning on doing engineering? So that means I can come to you when I buy furniture at IKEA?"

Modifié par Gwyphon, 10 août 2012 - 09:30 .

[Lyria]

Arian Dynas wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Um Arian, birds do swim...through the sky.


Hanar. Stop using "retarded" it is offensive and only strives offensive to turn people off from reading your posts.

Not so.

(Yes I am sure an Aerospace engineer is having a heart attack from the explanation I am about to give, but idc.)

While both make use of Bernoulli's Principl (Yes, I know it's actually more complicated than that, hypothetical Aerospace Engineer, but this is the simple explanation.) or at least some atheletes and predator fish make use of it to take advantage of lift, but when swimming, propulsion is generated by accelerating water, pushing it away from the subject and causing an equal and opposite reaction, pushing the subject forward.

Flight makes use primarly of (yes, I know, stop crying hypothetical Aerospace Engineer) Bernoulli's principle, creating lift by the movement of a fluid (air) underneath the wings, due to fluid underneath the wings moving more quickly than the fluid moving over the wings.

So no, avians and other airborne animals (though some insects are an exception.) do not "swim" in the air.

Dude, it was a ****ing joke. Im not a dumb *** and don't appreciate the condescension.

Modifié par protognosis, 10 août 2012 - 09:38 .

[MaximizedAction]

Gwyphon wrote...
Not quite, else planes couldn't fly upside down . It's actually to do with air circulation around the wing
Now I'm not really familiar with biomechanics but I believe the actions of swimming and flying are fundimentally different due to the density of water and bouyancy (displacing more than your weight in water causes you to float), or when swimming the only mass that you have to counteract with lift is your mass-mass of water displaced. Because water is more dense fish can rise by simply displacing water downwards (similar to a rocket, in a sense) which is very unlike a bird, who's flight mechanics are more so like a plane which relies on wing circulation to generate a lift force purpendicular to mass displacement (the engines displace air 90 degrees to the direction in which you want lift). 
Or something like that. I'm tired and don't really care for this. I think your understanding of fluid mechanics varies greatly depending on who lectured you.

Let's get back on topic

I now even remember someone asking the big question about flying upside down years ago. Damn you, bad memory!

But thanks for clearing that up. Now, thanks to you, I looked up "angle of attack" and know more about flying! And all that while sitting at work...

Guess engineers are necessery, otherwise physicists would be sufficient. You guys know how stuff works.

[Gwyphon]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...
Not quite, else planes couldn't fly upside down . It's actually to do with air circulation around the wing
Now I'm not really familiar with biomechanics but I believe the actions of swimming and flying are fundimentally different due to the density of water and bouyancy (displacing more than your weight in water causes you to float), or when swimming the only mass that you have to counteract with lift is your mass-mass of water displaced. Because water is more dense fish can rise by simply displacing water downwards (similar to a rocket, in a sense) which is very unlike a bird, who's flight mechanics are more so like a plane which relies on wing circulation to generate a lift force purpendicular to mass displacement (the engines displace air 90 degrees to the direction in which you want lift). 
Or something like that. I'm tired and don't really care for this. I think your understanding of fluid mechanics varies greatly depending on who lectured you.

Let's get back on topic

I now even remember someone asking the big question about flying upside down years ago. Damn you, bad memory!

But thanks for clearing that up. Now, thanks to you, I looked up "angle of attack" and know more about flying! And all that while sitting at work...

Guess engineers are necessery, otherwise physicists would be sufficient. You guys know how stuff works.

We're the Oompa Loompa's of science!
We also get paid better on average...

[Gwyphon]

It appears I killed the speculation...

Well anyway, when inside the Geth Consensus the corrupt reaper-influenced code you're destroying seems to shroud those video logs that sway you from previously thinking it was the Geth's fault for the war with the Quarians. Not really sure how to interpret this but wouldn't it mean the Reapers were deliberately corrupting this evidence to hide it from the Geth to continue their war against the Quarians? I guess you could say that they were only doing this to divide the galaxy so it's easier to conquer (divide and conquer) but isn't this a direct example of the reapers causing the exact problem they are meant to solve? Literally hours before the endgame?

Modifié par Gwyphon, 10 août 2012 - 09:52 .

[Arian Dynas]

protognosis wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Um Arian, birds do swim...through the sky.


Hanar. Stop using "retarded" it is offensive and only strives offensive to turn people off from reading your posts.

Not so.

(Yes I am sure an Aerospace engineer is having a heart attack from the explanation I am about to give, but idc.)

While both make use of Bernoulli's Principl (Yes, I know it's actually more complicated than that, hypothetical Aerospace Engineer, but this is the simple explanation.) or at least some atheletes and predator fish make use of it to take advantage of lift, but when swimming, propulsion is generated by accelerating water, pushing it away from the subject and causing an equal and opposite reaction, pushing the subject forward.

Flight makes use primarly of (yes, I know, stop crying hypothetical Aerospace Engineer) Bernoulli's principle, creating lift by the movement of a fluid (air) underneath the wings, due to fluid underneath the wings moving more quickly than the fluid moving over the wings.

So no, avians and other airborne animals (though some insects are an exception.) do not "swim" in the air.

Dude, it was a ****ing joke. Im not a dumb *** and don't appreciate the condescension.

I'm not trying to be condescending.

I do however know, that the moment that conceited dickhole Hanar starts googling his name to find all the responses made to him, he's going to look for every hole he can in an attempt to invalidate what I am saying. This is preventative maintenance.

That, and alot of people do assume things like this, and I spread the information that I have not in an attempt to make myself look smart, or to degrade others, but because I genuinely enjoy educating others and bringing them up. So consider this an impromptu science class.

[Lyria]

Yes. It makes too much sense. The Reapers stand to gain much by keeping the Geth fighting. However, Legion seems to already know the truth of their past and is actually explaining without the sudden shock we'd expect of such a revelation.

[Arian Dynas]

JasonSic wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

hey, so ive asked everywhere else. Can anyone hear make banners?

I'm not a pro, but I made this one:

Still my favorite.

Simple, yes, but I still love it.

Wish you could do one like this where it just zooms in on default Shepard's eye and then flashes to indoctrinated eyes.

[Arian Dynas]

TSA_383 wrote...

 Now that I am TSA - 1880s Industrialist Cat, I've decided I should try to make some money off the excessively trusting people on these forums 

TSA_383 wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Did some poor fool trust that thing before Leviathan?

I trust him.

....Can I interest you in a fantastic opportunity concerning elevated roadways in the Brooklyn area?

 

Also where is everyone? I've got an urge to try not dying on platinum for once 

Well if you like, I have this wonderfully senic strip of Everglade to sell them...

[Arian Dynas]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

While we are on the subject of old enemies like the Scion. Does anyone know if the Collectors are still around in ME3. I know their base was blown up, but that does not mean they were all obliterated. There must be some out there somewhere.
And second, would you guys like them to return as enemies in ME3?

Yes, I would. Anyway, Firebase Hive (the last colletor ship) is as of now the only leaked material that has not been confirmed. It was leaked with the Earth DLC I believe, and the Earth leak was 100% correct. Also, my favourite reason for Collectors being in MP would be that they are a biotic enemy. That means a few things.
1. We can fight enemies with barriers that aren't super though/use certain powers and ammo types much more effectively.
2. They can use biotics against us which was lacking hardcore in ME3.
3. In MP, certain classes are generally good against certain enemies: Reapers=combat/soldiers, Geth=tech/engineers, Cerberus=all three/everything. That leaves a significant gap.
Collectors=Biotics/Adepts (Fixed the gap )

And notice, all three are Reaper controlled factions.

Reaper Ground Troops,

Cerberus

Reaper Controlled Geth

Collectors.

Our enemy throughout the entire game never stopped being the Reapers.

SwobyJ wrote...

Prothians can be added in this single player DLC, which could involve freeing MORE prothians and letting them join the fight. Not many of them, but enough to justify them as a fighting force and more EMS.

I know it sounds crazy to add prothians to the game apart from Javik, but if its a good DLC story, I could maybe, maybe buy it. They won't be the Shepards of their cycle though, like Javik is compared to be.

 

Arian Dynas made up...

Mass Effect: Firebird - The Alliance has received a number of disturbing reports about a small planet on the far end of the Terminus Systems, the small orbiting blue orb known as Herodotus. Cerberus, in their constant search for Prothean technology, have set up a base, which up to this point had gone largely unnoticed.

Under orders from the Illusive Man, Project Phoenix had begun work here, their mission, to take recovered Prothean tech and integrate it into studies of transhuman enhancement, creating amazingly powerful biotics.

At least, so Alliance Intelligence thought from the reports received from Cerberus defectors in the Phoenix program. In reality the truth was far darker. Cerberus had discovered a thus far unprecedented number of intact, Prothean stasis pods, leading them to preform tests, and eventually genetic experiments, splicing Prothean DNA into Human bodies, shortening the lifespans of these volunteers considerably and leaving them requiring a constant flow of anti-rejection drugs, but vastly improving their biotic potential.

In response to the considerable threat, the Reapers, having now received word of Project Phoenix, have sent one of the last remaining Collector ships as a scout to seize the installation and prepare it for reaping.

Your mission? Infiltrate Project Phoenix, eliminate the Cerberus presence, allowingthe Alliance to seize the base, rescue and evacuate the Prothean population, and destroy the Collector Ship.

plfranke wrote...

well you can look up "the truth dlc" and find where those leaks came from. Interestingly enough, with everything that guy predicted he had to of had some inside source which really makes you wonder if a "the truth" dlc is still coming.

 

*sigh*

I personally debunked this one. The Truth DLC was "leaked" a day after there was a legitimate MP leak the day before on Facebook, via Reddit. The image the guy used was the same one from the Facebook leak, in fact, he didn't even bother removing the comments from the Facebook picture. He was an anonymous 4Chan user who added his own text to a legitimate leak.

[GethPrimeMKII]

I facepalm every time I see one of those control ending support signatures. Is that bad?

[Lyria]

Arian,
You're not trying to be condescending, you're doing a good job at it. You don't have to defend your views on circular logic as what you said stands for itself. You didn't have to point out how birds don't actually "swim" by reciting the knowledge you know as it is something that is understood. You took what was a joke, and an attempt to mock the very need to point out circular logic, and turned it into some kind of pedestal to show off. You didn't edit your post with Hanar, you replied to my post not with the humor I'd expect but with the arrogance of one who thinks he has to always point out the errors in others and prove just how smart he is. I have three degrees, a high IQ and don't need to be lectured like I failed 6th grade science class.

[MaximizedAction]

Gwyphon wrote...

Well anyway, when inside the Geth Consensus the corrupt reaper-influenced code you're destroying seems to shroud those video logs that sway you from previously thinking it was the Geth's fault for the war with the Quarians. Not really sure how to interpret this but wouldn't it mean the Reapers were deliberately corrupting this evidence to hide it from the Geth to continue their war against the Quarians? I guess you could say that they were only doing this to divide the galaxy so it's easier to conquer (divide and conquer) but isn't this a direct example of the reapers causing the exact problem they are meant to solve? Literally hours before the endgame?

That's an interesting interpretation of the video logs!

Pre-EC the Catalyst's of the Reapers intentions seemed much more contradictory of the Rannoch chapter of ME3 than it is now, but Rannoch remains the same. Although the Reapers haven't reached Rannoch yet in full force, that lone Destroyer is already scheming and stirring the croud. And Shepard can solve it. He proves it is possible.

Then, le wild Catalyst appears and says, "Nope, you lose, the peace won't last. I'm glowy figure with mysterious background music, I'm right, you're wrong."

The Architect from the Matrix trilogy is such a good example for how to design a character with no proof of it's identity but appear more reliable than the Catalyst. Bioware did take into account the Matrix movie(s), as seen in the Final Hours app...so they know what they're doing.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 août 2012 - 10:15 .

[Arian Dynas]

protognosis wrote...

Arian,
You're not trying to be condescending, you're doing a good job at it. You don't have to defend your views on circular logic as what you said stands for itself. You didn't have to point out how birds don't actually "swim" by reciting the knowledge you know as it is something that is understood. You took what was a joke, and an attempt to mock the very need to point out circular logic, and turned it into some kind of pedestal to show off. You didn't edit your post with Hanar, you replied to my post not with the humor I'd expect but with the arrogance of one who thinks he has to always point out the errors in others and prove just how smart he is. I have three degrees, a high IQ and don't need to be lectured like I failed 6th grade science class.

I reiterate, I am not making an effort to show off.

I don't like to go back and edit posts people have already responded to on the logic that, in the real world, what is said cannot be taken back, and can only be healed, not undone.

In all honesty, I didn't really get that you WERE trying to be humorous. Perhaps a bit teasing, but it did not strike me as a joke. That is perhaps my failing.

But either way, the "lecture" was neither intended truly for you, or was intended to be condescending. I never once called you stupid, or even implied such.

As I already said, I don't try to correct errors to "prove how smart I am" I do it because I genuinely want people to know the right thing. I don't LIKE seeing errors.  From anyone.

But either way, if I gave offense to you, I apologize.

[Lyria]

The smiley face was the indication that I was teasing you.

And...thank you.

[CoolioThane]

Some people are getting a bit precious.

Modifié par CoolioThane, 10 août 2012 - 10:33 .

[Lyria]

I forgot what has transpired. Nothing much.

[Rosewind]

Flog61 wrote...

Guys, i've just checked back here after 2 days: 100 new pages.

Has something really interesting been discovered? Or is it just off topicness?

lol it is us what do you think lol

[Arian Dynas]

CoolioThane wrote...

Some people are getting a bit precious.

Eh?

[UltimateTobi]

Rosewind wrote...

lol it is us what do you think lol

Uhm... offtopicness.

[CoolioThane]

Arian Dynas wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Some people are getting a bit precious.

Eh?

I just read through 40 pages and that was my concensus xD

[Lyria]

There is almost nothing to discuss concerning IT, at least nothing groundbreaking.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Nothing new under the sun until Leviathan comes out.