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[Arian Dynas]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Honestly, you'd think the Citadel being the central hub of the relay network would play into the plans of the Alliance and Council races more directly. I'd've wanted to reprogram the network to do nasty to things to any vessel utilizing a Reaper IFF, for instance.

Hence why I say this;

Crucible is a wild goose chase, meant to waste time, resources and force the enemy to place their hopes on something that will not work.

In reality, it's  nothing more than a big battery for the Citadel, allowing the Citadel Relay to power up, as well as providing a well for the Reapers to recharge themselves.

Our soloution? We hotwire the Crucible and the Citadel Relay, deactivating the protocols that require a reciving relay for it to power up, turning the entire thing into a massive Mass Accelerator Cannon, using Asteroids, debris and even entire Reapers for ammunition.

All the little literary knots tied up in a neat bow all at once.

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Glad to see Wyoming talk for once (never knew why he doesn't have many lines, considering who voices him).

They said they didnt give Wyoming that many lines because they think his accent makes him a bit too silly for the more serious Freelancer storyline.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Glad to see Wyoming talk for once (never knew why he doesn't have many lines, considering who voices him).

They said they didnt give Wyoming that many lines because they think his accent makes him a bit too silly for the more serious Freelancer storyline.

Huh. Maybe I didn't think of that because I don't really get a "serious" vibe from even the Freelancer storyline.

[CoolioThane]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

I'm back from the Olympic Park! Managed to see some handball, water polo and athletics. Awesome times!

Awesome! Did you hear the name of the OP this weekend? Olympus. It involves getting a full extraction in London.

Now that is awesome! Does it fit with Arian's idea still?

Mp laters?

[BansheeOwnage]

CoolioThane wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

I'm back from the Olympic Park! Managed to see some handball, water polo and athletics. Awesome times!

Awesome! Did you hear the name of the OP this weekend? Olympus. It involves getting a full extraction in London.

Now that is awesome! Does it fit with Arian's idea still?

Mp laters?

Sounds good. And which idea do you mean again?

[masster blaster]

Arian said that MP is following SP storyline, and I still haven't got a reply back from Chris about SP, and MP.

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

Arian said that MP is following SP storyline, and I still haven't got a reply back from Chris about SP, and MP.

Oh, well we all know it's following the SP storyline right? No offense Arian. Anyway, Team, yes it is following the SP storyline. It involves buying the Resistance time to investigate suspicious reaper activity in London.

[Arian Dynas]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian said that MP is following SP storyline, and I still haven't got a reply back from Chris about SP, and MP.

Oh, well we all know it's following the SP storyline right? No offense Arian. Anyway, Team, yes it is following the SP storyline. It involves buying the Resistance time to investigate suspicious reaper activity in London.

*shrug*

TSA and Turbo_J also had similar ideas. If you want you can check my sig; BioWare Business Plan, how we made money without really crying.

[ebuchala]

Hrothdane wrote...

Never confronting Harbinger (or even talking to him) is such a huge clue that something is off. One of the reasons I like IT is that it means we actually DID confront him, just in a more roundabout way.

I'll be doing Overlord today or tomorrow myself, so I'll keep an eye out myself. I wasn't around for previous versions of the thread, so unfortunately I can't help you there.

For now though, I'm gonna go do some MP.

That is what brought me to IT--utter dissatisfaction with how the ending went. And yet the rest of the series was amazing so I figured there had to be more to it (hopefully).

I still have to do Atlas station so I'll be watching for the M-One console. I don't remember if there are any medibots at Atlas, I just recall Geth being there but now that I'm aware of it, I'll definitely be checking any other medibots that show up in M2 or 3 (yes, I'm replaying M3 with the Leviathan dlc). I know there are the ones in the Arrival DLC when you break out of the infirmary. I really don't think the M-One Console and M1 on the medibots has anything to do with the 1M1 at the end of the game.

[ThisOneIsPunny]

CoolioThane wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

I'm back from the Olympic Park! Managed to see some handball, water polo and athletics. Awesome times!

Awesome! Did you hear the name of the OP this weekend? Olympus. It involves getting a full extraction in London.

Now that is awesome! Does it fit with Arian's idea still?

Mp laters?

 The Mass Effect Olympics involves a lot of dying, possibly dying, and you-better-have-a-rez-monster-on-your-team-because-you'll-be-dying dying.

On topic, it does fit with Arian's idea. We're getting closer and closer to the end of the sp timeline now.

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arian said that MP is following SP storyline, and I still haven't got a reply back from Chris about SP, and MP.

Oh, well we all know it's following the SP storyline right? No offense Arian. Anyway, Team, yes it is following the SP storyline. It involves buying the Resistance time to investigate suspicious reaper activity in London.

Correct, and still I have a feeling anyone that goes in the Beam because like the super husk in Evolution, when Ben touches the Reaper artifact, he becomes a husk/like TIm at the end of the game, but can stil has Control over his mind/will power, but his the Reapers now.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 09:07 .

[CoolioThane]

Awesome it'll be nice to see what happens when we catch up

[BansheeOwnage]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

I'm back from the Olympic Park! Managed to see some handball, water polo and athletics. Awesome times!

Awesome! Did you hear the name of the OP this weekend? Olympus. It involves getting a full extraction in London.

Now that is awesome! Does it fit with Arian's idea still?

Mp laters?

 The Mass Effect Olympics involves a lot of dying, possibly dying, and you-better-have-a-rez-monster-on-your-team-because-you'll-be-dying dying.

On topic, it does fit with Arian's idea. We're getting closer and closer to the end of the sp timeline now.

They may have even finished the timeline in general but are now going back in time and showing us what's happening on Earth before the final assault. Hopefully more light will be shone on why the reapers are coalescing around London before they moved the Citadel. Thoughts on this apparent plothole?

[masster blaster]

MaximizedAction wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

lol.  Well, FFZero, Maximized and I have got the 9th wave curse, if you wanna try it  
Anyway, I think I'll be online around 11 PM GMT+1. If they haven't fixed Origin, we could use that site to organize a game.

The curse shall be broken!

masster blaster wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Also
is it me, or in the beggining of part two of the comic, TIm is hearing
Reaper vocies inside his head, and the last plaent he sees, is like the
same planet Shepard sees in the Prothean visions?

The
first one seems likely, though the voices seem more like one of
Harbinger's speeches to Shepard than indoctrination. If they aren't
connected, anyway. 

The second one can also be true. But is there an importance to it?

It's in his sleep and messages repeated over and over can affect the brain.
It's not just likely it is coming from a Reaper.

Your time is almost at an end.
It is the way of things. It is inevitable.
You can't fight it. You can't avoid it.
You have but two choices. You can hide --
-- or you can accept your fate.
We are your destiny.

I
like how Sarens brother thought that hecan Control them BS, the Reapers
were, and this also helps with the thing I was saying about Cerberus in
ME3. Even though they had their mind in it, you can't control the
people that are being Control by a nother force ( The Reapers) So this
makes TIm wanting to Control the Reapers prove that he is mad of BS.

He also calls the artifact an Evolution Accelarator. Remind you of something? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Synthesis, and it's funny because in the Comic Saren was starting to be like the Saren we all got to know, and love.
Also
I believe that Bioware had plans to use the Comics, to use in ME3,
Hence why Kai Leng was in ME3, Sanders,Aria fleeing Omega,the HISTORY of
TIM, and Saren, and what changed them, and How in Evolution TIM starts
to do follow in the foot step of Saren's brother, in ME3, but did the
same thing, as Shepard is doing now in ME3. But is telling TIM he can't
Control the Reapers, just as TIM said to Saren's brother, " You can't
Control the super Turians."  Which proves that TIM can't Control the
Reaper ground forces, and his army because the Reapers are Controlling
them, not TIM, and just as Saren's brother thought that he could make his
race the dominate species, TIM is now thinking that by Controlling them
we can make Humanity the greatest species in the galaxy.


No speculations at all, shame, I thought this will clear up the BAD WRITIN in ME3.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 09:32 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Arian Dynas wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, I would. Anyway, Firebase Hive (the last colletor ship) is as of now the only leaked material that has not been confirmed. It was leaked with the Earth DLC I believe, and the Earth leak was 100% correct. Also, my favourite reason for Collectors being in MP would be that they are a biotic enemy. That means a few things.
1. We can fight enemies with barriers that aren't super though/use certain powers and ammo types much more effectively.
2. They can use biotics against us which was lacking hardcore in ME3.
3. In MP, certain classes are generally good against certain enemies: Reapers=combat/soldiers, Geth=tech/engineers, Cerberus=all three/everything. That leaves a significant gap.
Collectors=Biotics/Adepts (Fixed the gap )

And notice, all three are Reaper controlled factions.

Reaper Ground Troops,

Cerberus

Reaper Controlled Geth

Collectors.

Our enemy throughout the entire game never stopped being the Reapers.

And even more interesting if you note that all factions in MP (and in turn SP) are indoctrinated.
Our enemy throughout the entire game never stopped being indoctrination.

[BansheeOwnage]

Flog61 wrote...

Hi everyone

I remember in the last tread someone said that an additional flag was set in the destroy ending; this could potentially show that an IT dlc is likely.

Does anyone know if this is true or not?

I don't know, but I think the things you grab in control are labeled as "bad."

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hopefully more light will be shone on why the reapers are coalescing around London before they moved the Citadel. Thoughts on this apparent plothole?

That always bugged me.

Another thing that always bugs me is how Allers says the Reapers took out Bekenstein.

That means the Reapers have taken out planets in the same cluster as the Citadel, but never bothered with the Citadel until the end of the game.

Unless they have some kind of master plan, not taking the Citadel and shutting down the relay networks makes absolutely no sense.

Especially since to get to Bekenstein, they had to use relays that go to the Citadel first, and then decide not to bother with it.

Modifié par byne, 10 août 2012 - 09:26 .

[FFZero]

Finally finished my latest playthrough of ME2, time for MP

I’d forgotten how long ME2 actually was with all the DLC included, and how crappy the combat system was. I was really missing my combat rolls and melee attacks, oh and my precious Nova attack

After playing through Arrival again though my belief in IT is even stronger, all the evidence to support IT is there plain as day. Whispers, dreams, having doubts, everything Shepard is going through in ME3.

[TSA_383]

Flog61 wrote...

Hi everyone

I remember in the last tread someone said that an additional flag was set in the destroy ending; this could potentially show that an IT dlc is likely.

Does anyone know if this is true or not?

There's a "shepard alive" query in the game, that's one of the variables it feeds back to bioware if you have that stuff enabled.

As for the thing with the save flags I've not seen that?

[Arashi08]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yes, I would. Anyway, Firebase Hive (the last colletor ship) is as of now the only leaked material that has not been confirmed. It was leaked with the Earth DLC I believe, and the Earth leak was 100% correct. Also, my favourite reason for Collectors being in MP would be that they are a biotic enemy. That means a few things.
1. We can fight enemies with barriers that aren't super though/use certain powers and ammo types much more effectively.
2. They can use biotics against us which was lacking hardcore in ME3.
3. In MP, certain classes are generally good against certain enemies: Reapers=combat/soldiers, Geth=tech/engineers, Cerberus=all three/everything. That leaves a significant gap.
Collectors=Biotics/Adepts (Fixed the gap )

And notice, all three are Reaper controlled factions.

Reaper Ground Troops,

Cerberus

Reaper Controlled Geth

Collectors.

Our enemy throughout the entire game never stopped being the Reapers.

And even more interesting if you note that all factions in MP (and in turn SP) are indoctrinated.
Our enemy throughout the entire game never stopped being indoctrination.

True, plus wasn't a rogue Cerberus Faction mentioned during the SP Benning mission?  makes me think that TIM can't completely control his people at that point.  Though more likely he never had control until maybe Sanctuary.

[masster blaster]

[quote]masster blaster wrote...

[quote]smokingotter1 wrote...

[quote]Hrothdane wrote...

[quote]masster blaster wrote...

*Selective snip* Comments in blue. I always like to remember when I'm immersed in a story that the characters are not only speaking to each other but throught the character to the audience.

Okay on Thessia Tim says " They are just trying to Control US. Think about it. If they wanted all organic life Destroyed, they could do it..." At this part of the game I was open to control a bit. I mean if the reapers were fighting Cerberus on sancturary Cerberus must be on to something. Little disappointed that there was no way to let Miranda's Dad live. I know he was a monster, but given the stakes...(mmm steak) I would have been open to working with him, with him dead I didn't believe there was a chance in hell Cerberus could control anything.

then TIM says " I know them Shepard. I know how they think." One thing the writers of Mass Effect hit us on the head over and over again is that the reaper motives are unknowable. This is a warning sign of indoctrination and why you should always be wary of the starchild. If the geth with all their fancy microchips cannot fathom what the reapers mind is like after interfacing with one how is a starchild going to explain in a minute the entire reaper mindset? More likely the mind rationalizes serving the reapers, one way or another.

Then TIM says: "And I can say the same to you. Wasting your time, on a war that can not be won."

But then Shepard says " At LEAST I am fighting."

dam makes you wonder if Destroy you are still fighting. "This is very true, indoctrination changes the way you think and act in ways you may or may not be able to explain. If the decision chamber is an overlay of reality what exactly is Shepard shooting at? The conduit beam dies when Shepard chooses destroy, could it be possible that if Shepard will not willingly open his mind to indoctrination that the reapers will compel Shepard to sabotage the conduit beam thus making sure no one makes it to the citadel?

But then TIM says " Never question my ability to fight. I've been fighting the Reapers longer than you can imagine." [color=rgb(0, 0, 128)">"The writers are also refering to TIM ]It's a miracle TIM [/color]has lasted so long before going full bore indoctrinated.

But then TIM says later[b] " Shepard there are choices coming that you're not equipped to make." TIM is currently 100% correct, ME3 ends in a cliffhanger with Shepard still in London in a bunch of rubble with Harbinger still around. Not a very good position to be in. Shepard does not have the tools to win the battle against the reapers...yet. *cough* DLC.


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You know, people complain about your giant walls of text, masster, but I like how you always pull evidence directly from the source.

This dialogue definitely has some interesting elements. The foreshadowing about the "choices you are not equipped to make" might be a hint that TIM knows about the Starbrat.

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And Otter, now that I read Evolution, TIM wanting to Control the Reapers, was never what he wanted at all, but since the Proto Reaper was in his base, It got to him because TIM knew already, that he could not Control the Reapers, or the troops, because he saw first hand in Evolution, that It's the Reapers that Control the forces, not anyone elsem you can't Control them at all because the Reapers Control them. And you can Compair ME3 to Evolution because TIM is like Saren's brother, and Shepard is now Jack jarper, but is not influenced by the Reapers just yet.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 09:30 .

[smokingotter1]

@masster blaster or and I was half joking about the alcohol analogy- what if the human reaper was the watershed moment that pushed TIM to the otherside?

[masster blaster]

smokingotter1 wrote...

@masster blaster or and I was half joking about the alcohol analogy- what if the human reaper was the watershed moment that pushed TIM to the otherside?

I think so to TIM's lust for Tech, and power to save Humanity, was releveled at the end of Evolution, and after seeing TIM in ME3, I knew that's how he got Indoctrinated.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 09:34 .

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hopefully more light will be shone on why the reapers are coalescing around London before they moved the Citadel. Thoughts on this apparent plothole?

That always bugged me.

Another thing that always bugs me is how Allers says the Reapers took out Bekenstein.

That means the Reapers have taken out planets in the same cluster as the Citadel, but never bothered with the Citadel until the end of the game.

Unless they have some kind of master plan, not taking the Citadel and shutting down the relay networks makes absolutely no sense.

Especially since to get to Bekenstein, they had to use relays that go to the Citadel first, and then decide not to bother with it.

I'd say either oversight, reaper plan, or both. The reapers preparing things in London before they're supposed to know about the crucible just screams reaper trap. Especially if you listen to this line:
http://www.youtube.c...HSdk8ECmq0#t=5s