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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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MegumiAzusa

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HagarIshay wrote...

byne wrote...
But we're not talking about destroy...

You silly literalists. ;)


:huh::?:unsure::(:crying:

Control can be awesome too... IT CAN! I KNOW IT CAN! YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE!

No, that won't work.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So what do you think about this Byne, Otter, Banshee, Arian, TSA, and everyone else.

I think I can't comment because I have no clue what you are trying to say because of your grammar.


There is nothing wrong with my grammar. My be my wording, but I can fix that.

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CoolioThane wrote...

People who HATE the IT are idiots.


Cooliothane let's not attract un wanted attention please.

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[quote]masster blaster wrote...

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[quote]smokingotter1 wrote...

[quote]Hrothdane wrote...

[quote]masster blaster wrote...

*Selective snip* Comments in blue. I always like to remember when I'm immersed in a story that the characters are not only speaking to each other but throught the character to the audience.

Okay on Thessia Tim says " They are just trying to Control US. Think about it. If they wanted all organic life Destroyed, they could do it..." At this part of the game I was open to control a bit. I mean if the reapers were fighting Cerberus on sancturary Cerberus must be on to something. Little disappointed that there was no way to let Miranda's Dad live. I know he was a monster, but given the stakes...(mmm steak) I would have been open to working with him, with him dead I didn't believe there was a chance in hell Cerberus could control anything.

then TIM says " I know them Shepard. I know how they think." One thing the writers of Mass Effect hit us on the head over and over again is that the reaper motives are unknowable. This is a warning sign of indoctrination and why you should always be wary of the starchild. If the geth with all their fancy microchips cannot fathom what the reapers mind is like after interfacing with one how is a starchild going to explain in a minute the entire reaper mindset? More likely the mind rationalizes serving the reapers, one way or another.

Then TIM says: "And I can say the same to you. Wasting your time, on a war that can not be won."

But then Shepard says " At LEAST I am fighting."

dam makes you wonder if Destroy you are still fighting. "This is very true, indoctrination changes the way you think and act in ways you may or may not be able to explain. If the decision chamber is an overlay of reality what exactly is Shepard shooting at? The conduit beam dies when Shepard chooses destroy, could it be possible that if Shepard will not willingly open his mind to indoctrination that the reapers will compel Shepard to sabotage the conduit beam thus making sure no one makes it to the citadel?

But then TIM says " Never question my ability to fight. I've been fighting the Reapers longer than you can imagine." [color=rgb(0, 0, 128)">"The writers are also refering to TIM ]It's a miracle TIM [/color]has lasted so long before going full bore indoctrinated.

But then TIM says later[b] " Shepard there are choices coming that you're not equipped to make."
TIM is currently 100% correct, ME3 ends in a cliffhanger with Shepard still in London in a bunch of rubble with Harbinger still around. Not a very good position to be in. Shepard does not have the tools to win the battle against the reapers...yet. *cough* DLC.


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You know, people complain about your giant walls of text, masster, but I like how you always pull evidence directly from the source.

This dialogue definitely has some interesting elements. The foreshadowing about the "choices you are not equipped to make" might be a hint that TIM knows about the Starbrat.

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And Otter, now that I read Evolution, TIM wanting to Control the Reapers, was never what he wanted at all, but since the Proto Reaper was in his base, It got to him because TIM knew already, that he could not Control the Reapers, or the troops, because he saw first hand in Evolution, that It's the Reapers that Control the forces, not anyone elsem you can't Control them at all because the Reapers Control them. And you can Compair ME3 to Evolution because TIM is like Saren's brother, and Shepard is now Jack Harper, but is not influenced by the Reapers just yet.

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Okay how about this one eveyone/Megum.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 10:09 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
I know that, but the people that play Me for just the action, and don't pay attention to the Story don't understand what happened at teh end, and why they call ME3 bad writing, is throw back at them because they knew what they were doing, but were the fans paying attetion.:D

You can argue that " Well if they were, then why....'
it's because they want us to speculate about the endings, and what do you believe in.

I will never understand people that play ME for action...Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

Nor will I, but ME is diffrent because you have to learn the story, in order to understand the story, not by just action.

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Lol if anyone takes offense from that it's hilarious.

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masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

People who HATE the IT are idiots.


Cooliothane let's not attract un wanted attention please.

+1, but he did emphasize that people who hate IT are idiots. I agree. Don't confuse it with "people who don't agree with IT are idiots." Unfortunately, I see a lot of people confusing it, so best not to bring it up. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

People who HATE the IT are idiots.


Cooliothane let's not attract un wanted attention please.

+1, but he did emphasize that people who hate IT are idiots. I agree. Don't confuse it with people who don't agree with IT are idiots. Unfortunately, I see a lot of people confusing it, so best not to bring it up. Posted Image


+2
Got it.

Edit: Crap notice I quadrople post sorry everyone.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 10:13 .


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It's better and I can understand it, though your grammar does still need work, not just your wording.

And no, he is in no way unaffected. The artifact ordered him to go to Illium and he did. He is still in control if not given a direct order, but he's pretty much indoctrinated already at the end.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 10 août 2012 - 10:16 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

It's better and I can understand it, though your grammar does still need work.

And no, he is in no way unaffected. The artifact ordered him to go to Illium and he did. He is still in control if not given a direct order, but he's pretty much indoctrinated already at the end.


I agree, but I do need to work on my grammar, and build a plot chart, so that I can show most of the Literalist, and people that call ME3 bad writing, wrong with just words and text evidence.

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Agreed with your opinion.

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masster blaster wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So what do you think about this Byne, Otter, Banshee, Arian, TSA, and everyone else.

I think I can't comment because I have no clue what you are trying to say because of your grammar.


There is nothing wrong with my grammar. My be my wording, but I can fix that.

hahaha megumi I cracked up at that

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EXMugamy wrote...

Agreed with your opinion.


IT, or somebodys opinion?

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masster blaster wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

It's better and I can understand it, though your grammar does still need work.

And no, he is in no way unaffected. The artifact ordered him to go to Illium and he did. He is still in control if not given a direct order, but he's pretty much indoctrinated already at the end.


I agree, but I do need to work on my grammar, and build a plot chart, so that I can show most of the Literalist, and people that call ME3 bad writing, wrong with just words and text evidence.

But then they'll just call your proof about how BW are not bad writers "bad writing." Posted Image

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Who believes in the theory of Beings of Light? It makes sense.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...
We will never know.
Anyway since you're here, I just wanted to thank you for being what I think more people, especially literalists, should be like: respectful. If there is one thing I've always hated it's people who you can't win an argument against simply because they refuse to listen to your side. So I think I can speak for many people here when I say: Thanks...for not being an idiot. Posted Image

Edit: Also, I think most of the idiot-troll-literalists are male. Go figure.


Thanks for saying it :) It really means a lot.

And really, you all ain't so bad either. In fact, it's nicer here than in, well, pretty much everywhere in this forums. You have been really respectable to me and my questions. It's certaintly most than I can say about even people I usually agree with.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

It's better and I can understand it, though your grammar does still need work.

And no, he is in no way unaffected. The artifact ordered him to go to Illium and he did. He is still in control if not given a direct order, but he's pretty much indoctrinated already at the end.


I agree, but I do need to work on my grammar, and build a plot chart, so that I can show most of the Literalist, and people that call ME3 bad writing, wrong with just words and text evidence.

But then they'll just call your proof about how BW are not bad writers "bad writing." Posted Image


Very funny, but then I will go on saying that it was the Bioware Writer Mac, and a few others that worked on the storys in the Comics, and ME game wise.

And He, and the others worked on ME3 for sure, so elements form the Comics are in ME3.

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Masster you just +1d yourself? Lol

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CoolioThane wrote...

Masster you just +1d yourself? Lol


sure did.:D

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CoolioThane wrote...

People who HATE the IT are idiots.

Well, that'll certainly get then on board with the idea /sarcasm.

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EXMugamy wrote...

Who believes in the theory of Beings of Light? It makes sense.

Actually, that "theory" is itself a misnomer. IT is a scientific theory, and unfortunately, most people do not know what an actual theory is; they think what we mean is a hypothesis. But on the contrary, IT is more than that. It is in fact a fully fledged theory. Like gravity, or evolution. It is proven in the sense that "Sure it could be wrong, but until it is proven wrong, we'll assume it is correct." Beings of Light "theory", is in fact, the "Beings of Light Hypothesis". It has virtually no evidence to support it.

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EXMugamy wrote...

Who believes in the theory of Beings of Light? It makes sense.


I think the beings of light are the Reapers, using a diffrent name to believe in their carp/BS.

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HagarIshay wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
We will never know.
Anyway since you're here, I just wanted to thank you for being what I think more people, especially literalists, should be like: respectful. If there is one thing I've always hated it's people who you can't win an argument against simply because they refuse to listen to your side. So I think I can speak for many people here when I say: Thanks...for not being an idiot. Posted Image

Edit: Also, I think most of the idiot-troll-literalists are male. Go figure.


Thanks for saying it :) It really means a lot.

And really, you all ain't so bad either. In fact, it's nicer here than in, well, pretty much everywhere in this forums. You have been really respectable to me and my questions. It's certaintly most than I can say about even people I usually agree with.

Well, people here tend to be a little more open-minded than most, so maybe that's it. I mean, you have to be a little open-minded to believe IT.

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masster blaster wrote...

EXMugamy wrote...

Who believes in the theory of Beings of Light? It makes sense.


I think the beings of light are the Reapers, using a diffrent name to believe in their carp/BS.

I believe it's a Volus who had too much red sand.

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Just wanted to remind everyone that Mike Gamble wants all ME content to be emotionally engaging whether it is before, during, or after ME3.Posted Image