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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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byne

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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay I got an Origion update, so Leviathan could come out next week.

I just had a doctors appointment, so tomorrow I could win the lottery.


I'm glad I wasnt the one who had to point out that masster was making absolutely no sense.

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XanderLav

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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay I got an Origion update, so Leviathan could come out next week.

I just had a doctors appointment, so tomorrow I could win the lottery.


I just bought a donkey, can't wait to see my pizza fly.

#8428
masster blaster

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Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

#8429
TSA_383

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?

#8430
masster blaster

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And I was saying that we usally get updates, when something big is about to come out.

#8431
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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


It has two O's.

The more O's the better.

#8432
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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


no it's almost like Windowows Live

#8433
masster blaster

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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Sorry was thinking about Origion, instead of Origin.

#8434
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masster blaster wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Sorry was thinking about Origion, instead of Origin.


Origion is not a thing.

Thats not a good excuse.

#8435
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byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


It has two O's.

The more O's the better.

Gutter mind, activate!

...I'll stop.
Eventually.

#8436
masster blaster

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Sorry was thinking about Origion, instead of Origin.


Origion is not a thing.

Thats not a good excuse.


was implying that I was thinking about Origion, because I was thinking how to spell Origin, so sorry. man you are all on may case now.

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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Tried that link that leonia42 posted some pages ago? I solved my problem and played until now with FFzero and Max! B)

#8438
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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Sorry was thinking about Origion, instead of Origin.


Origion is not a thing.

Thats not a good excuse.


was implying that I was thinking about Origion, because I was thinking how to spell Origin, so sorry. man you are all on may case now.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Origion isn'r a word

#8439
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mrs.N7 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Tried that link that leonia42 posted some pages ago? I solved my problem and played until now with FFzero and Max! B)

I think it might be - still can't see you online though, just masster, epyon and either ardrey...

#8440
masster blaster

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XanderLav wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay Origion changed a lot, when I updated it.

Is Origion any better than Origin?


Sorry was thinking about Origion, instead of Origin.


Origion is not a thing.

Thats not a good excuse.


was implying that I was thinking about Origion, because I was thinking how to spell Origin, so sorry. man you are all on may case now.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Origion isn'r a word


Yes I know, but I made a simply mistake. we all make mistakes, and this isn't the first time I done this.

#8441
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****ing leave him alone, you know what he meant

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byne

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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...


Sorry was thinking about Origion, instead of Origin.


Origion is not a thing.

Thats not a good excuse.


was implying that I was thinking about Origion, because I was thinking how to spell Origin, so sorry. man you are all on may case now.


I dont understand that excuse.

I'm only on your case because the excuse didnt make any sense at all.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

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Out of curiousity, what is this thread actually about now?

It can't just be about "dream theory" IT.


It never was.

This thread is for all speculation.

Besides. Calling the theory a "dream" is a gross oversimplification.

A better description of what we would term it would be; An allegorical and symbolic battle for Shepard's soul against the manipulations of the Reapers.

What we see could be happening, to some extent, but no matter what, unlike a dream, choices here have real world consequences.


I say "dream theory" because it supposedly takes place in a dream. Correct? 

You can't defeat indoctrination. It involves a physiological change as well a psychological. There is no basis in game lore that indoctrination can be outright beaten, much less beaten in your sleep. It would be like saying you could survive radiation poison if you fell asleep and made the right choices in respect to an allegorized depiction of the radioactive material. Some people may survive for longer than others, but if you absorb a lethal amount of radiation you will die. And with indoctrination, sooner or later you will be enthralled. Another problem I see with it is that the breathe scene only occurs with high EMS ending. 

I believe an indoctrination attempt is occuring and it is up to the player rather it fails or succeeds within the timeframe between the confrontation with TIM (or even the Harbinger blast) and the final choice. My take on it.  

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Ok guys, enough picking on masster for today.

His spelling and grammar seem to be getting better lately, so lets give him a break.

#8445
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byne wrote...

Ok guys, enough picking on masster for today.

His spelling and grammar seem to be getting better lately, so lets give him a break.


Thank you.

#8446
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The Twilight God wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Out of curiousity, what is this thread actually about now?

It can't just be about "dream theory" IT.


It never was.

This thread is for all speculation.

Besides. Calling the theory a "dream" is a gross oversimplification.

A better description of what we would term it would be; An allegorical and symbolic battle for Shepard's soul against the manipulations of the Reapers.

What we see could be happening, to some extent, but no matter what, unlike a dream, choices here have real world consequences.


I say "dream theory" because it supposedly takes place in a dream. Correct? 

You can't defeat indoctrination. It involves a physiological change as well a psychological. There is no basis in game lore that indoctrination can be outright beaten, much less beaten in your sleep. It would be like saying you could survive radiation poison if you fell asleep and made the right choices in respect to an allegorized depiction of the radioactive material. Some people may survive for longer than others, but if you absorb a lethal amount of radiation you will die. And with indoctrination, sooner or later you will be enthralled. Another problem I see with it is that the breathe scene only occurs with high EMS ending. 

I believe an indoctrination attempt is occuring and it is up to the player rather it fails or succeeds within the timeframe between the confrontation with TIM (or even the Harbinger blast) and the final choice. My take on it.  


Well some of us think it could also take place, when the transport veichale is starting to shake, because byne pointed out, the scene looks like, where Shepard could be at, in the Breath scene.

#8447
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The original theory is that the ending is not real, it takes place in shepard's mind. Now maybe shepard is staggering in London, mumbling about hope and making grand speeches at shoddy bushes, so it's not a dream, but the events are not real. There is too much confusion in this thread now; it's pretty clear many think choosing destroy actually, like, destroys the reapers. Or that the catalyst exists.

That's not to say we can't speculate about face-value interpretations as well as indoctrination ones, but there is a... dilution of sorts going on.

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Goddamn RAYs. Why are there so many of them?

So, has the fighting ceased? Has anything new been discovered?

#8449
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legaldinho wrote...

The original theory is that the ending is not real, it takes place in shepard's mind. Now maybe shepard is staggering in London, mumbling about hope and making grand speeches at shoddy bushes, so it's not a dream, but the events are not real. There is too much confusion in this thread now; it's pretty clear many think choosing destroy actually, like, destroys the reapers. Or that the catalyst exists.

That's not to say we can't speculate about face-value interpretations as well as indoctrination ones, but there is a... dilution of sorts going on.


Yes that's why I was going through the Renegade Conversations with TIM, and Shepard on Thessia, do you want to know what me, and the others came up with.

Also comparing ME3 TIM, to Evolution TIM, and going to make a full page, on why ME3 is not bad writing.

Modifié par masster blaster, 10 août 2012 - 11:47 .


#8450
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estebanus wrote...

Goddamn RAYs. Why are there so many of them?

So, has the fighting ceased? Has anything new been discovered?


What fight?
There hasn't been a fight since I came online this morning.