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[TJBartlemus]

 Whoa....mind blown. New conversation with Catalyst lines found. It's pretty much....all of it (or a majority) I say. All thanks to TSA and his thread there was this link. PS. SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

PS. Not to circumvent TSA's thread or his work I just want to double make sure that all credit is given to TSA. I would also highly recommend to go to his thread first too.

http://social.biowar...ndex/13557262/1 

http://pastebin.com/R52YGPek

Catalyst new lines from Leviathan
  <data>I was created to bring balance. To be the catalyst for peace between organics and synthetics.</data>

<data>I calculated. I planned. I evolved new ways to prevent and mitigate the conflict. But in the end, only one solution that allowed organics and synthetics to coexist.</data>

<data>I was created to oversee the relations between synthetic and organic life.</data>

<data>Yes and no. The Reapers are a synthetic representation of the ones who created us.</data>

 <data>It is the only solution that maintains the balance and the directive.</data>

<data>But they do not seeking your destruction. They are simply following my instruction.</data>

<data>The device appears to be little more than a power source.</data>

<data>It is inevitable that knowledge from one cycle will carry to the next.</data>

<data>To this day, it remains my primary purpose.</data>

<data>We required their harvesting to create the first Reaper. To enforce and enact on the solution I created.</data>

Here is a big part... (SPOILERS)

 <data>You have choice. More than you know.</data>  </string>- <string>  <id>748491</id>  <position>58</position>  <data>You have choice. More than you deserve.</data>  </string>- <string>  <id>-2146735156</id>  <position>59</position>  <data>-1</data>  </string>- <string>  <id>748493</id>  <position>60</position>  <data>You have hope. More than you think.</data>  </string>- <string>  <id>748494</id>  <position>61</position>  <data>You don't need hope.</data>

(SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS)

<data>[BAD OPTION] Your device is severely damaged. The blast it creates will be unpredictable and devastating.</data>
  <data>All technology and those who rely on synthetic technology for their survival will be lost. Yourself including.</data>
  <data>Your ships, weapons... the relays will all be destroyed beyond repair. Your homes will be in ruin.</data>
  <data>Few organics will survive the blast. Fewer still will survive in the days to come.</data>
  <data>[MEDIUM OPTION] Your Crucible device is badly damaged. The blast it creates will be unpredictable.</data>
  <data>Many who rely on synthetic technology for survival will be affected. Some may even be destroyed.</data>
  <data>You will certainly die. It is possible that some, further from the blast, may survive relatively unharmed.</data>
  <data>[GOOD OPTION] Your Crucible device appears to be largely in tact. However, the effects of the blast will not be constrained to the Reapers.</data>
  <data>Technology you rely on will be affected, though those who survive should have little difficulty repairing the damage.</data>
  <data>There will still be losses, but no more than have already been lost in this conflict.</data>

And this is only 1/8 into the document.  These are just the mildly interesting lines. Near the end it get's into Shep's lines. 

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 11 août 2012 - 01:30 .

[TJBartlemus]

<data>If you want the cycle to continue, why even discuss this with me?</data> - Shepard

I won't spoil the rest but Reject certainly sounds WAY better. (At least more interesting IMO) The DLC also should answer if conventional victory is possible. (At least in the opinion of the Catalyst....)

Being as that most of what I posted is what we already know it's not too spoilerish.....also the link only gives the conversation on the Citadel which Michael Gamble considered it as an easter egg. So we have yet to find out the big reveal. (The conversation is interesting nonetheless though)

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 11 août 2012 - 01:19 .

[smokingotter1]

Well I tried to join the last origin (pc) games but got lost in dubstep*

Modifié par smokingotter1, 11 août 2012 - 01:18 .

[TSA_383]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...
Essays? Wanna swap?  I'm really struggling with this stuff right now:
http://en.wikipedia....tokes_equations
http://en.wikipedia..../Potential_flow 
http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Quaternion 

Quaternions are actually quite easy once you got the hang of them ^^

I hope you're right - using them to look at flow at the end of a helicopter blade. It is just insane.

One transformation from the earth axis to the helicopter body axis.
Then another one to transform to the propeller shaft.
Then another one to transform to the blade itself.
Then doing some fairly easy finite wing theory (despite its complete unsuitability to the problem, **** paper maths, really...) to calculate some upwash angles relative to the blade.....

Then transforming it all back to earth-relative axes.

And I have to do that under exam conditions next week.
FML.

Essays sound lovely at this point 

Edit: SO ABOUT THEM REAPERS (yes this was on topic all along, maybe... maybe the reapers can be killed by just rolling them 90 degrees because the AI programming uses euler rotations and suffers gimble lock)

Oh my god, I just made a thread about a game interpretation nerdier...

Modifié par TSA_383, 11 août 2012 - 01:27 .

[TJBartlemus]

Seems I blew the collective mind of the IT thread with TSA's leak and killed the thread....

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Any way I have been thinking about what Garrus Tell's after the coup attempt Shepard " If it have come down to it, would you pull the Trigger?

now for Renegade, Shepard is like yes i would, Bioware telling us that at the end, we are going to have to pull the Trigger to get the job done, would you do it.but Paragon Shepard is like " I don't see how. We start killing our friends, and wars TURNS INTO MURDER.

Destroy ending is murder if you think about it, but then Garrus tells Shepard " But it doesn't ALWAYS GIVE US THE EASY WAY OUT, does it?'

Dam I guess Bioware was hinting that Destroy isn't the easy way out, but maybe they were trying to tell us that maybe Destroy is the easy way out, only if you are willing to stay true to your believes.

Sorry Power went out where I was, so I didn't get to finish.

[masster blaster]

Dam it TJ show me all of this. I may not get a chance because anyone of us could die, and I want to know all about this new script.

PLEASE!

Modifié par masster blaster, 11 août 2012 - 01:43 .

[Bushido Effect]

I need to know a date for the leviathan DLC, anyone know yet? thanks. Not bothering with that firefight pack.

[masster blaster]

Bushido Effect wrote...

I need to know a date for the leviathan DLC, anyone know yet? thanks. Not bothering with that firefight pack.

IT has new scripts of Leviathan, and it has the new chocies that are upgraded.

[byne]

Bushido Effect wrote...

I need to know a date for the leviathan DLC, anyone know yet? thanks. Not bothering with that firefight pack.

No date given.

The firefight pack is pretty good.

Its nice to have the Harrier in SP at least, plus the new AR is pretty good against geth.

[TJBartlemus]

For the whole leaked script for the Catalyst and Shep on the Citadel for Leviathan I would recommend to get the link in TSA's thread. (However if too lazy it's the pastebin link underneath....)

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...

I need to know a date for the leviathan DLC, anyone know yet? thanks. Not bothering with that firefight pack.

IT has new scripts of Leviathan, and it has the new chocies that are upgraded.

That is not relevant to his question, masster.

[masster blaster]

Okay I know I don't want to be a spoiler here, but the Destroy dialogue changes to "I know you've thought about destroying us."

Bioware changed the lines again.

Modifié par masster blaster, 11 août 2012 - 01:47 .

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Okay I know I don't want to be a spoiler here, but the Destroy dialogue changes to " I've know you thought about Destroying us."

Bioware changed the lines again.

Thats what he always says to me.

[SirLugash]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay I know I don't want to be a spoiler here, but the Destroy dialogue changes to " I've know you thought about Destroying us."

Bioware changed the lines again.

Thats what he always says to me.

In EC he says "Now you have the power to destroy us", doesn't he ?

[TJBartlemus]

New Catalyst lies....

<data>By harvesting organics before they can create synthetics capable of such evolution, we prevent this conflict.</data>

[GethPrimeMKII]

TJBartlemus wrote...

New Catalyst lies....

<data>By harvesting organics before they can create synthetics capable of such evolution, we prevent this conflict.</data>

His logic is about as sound as preventing people from starting dangerous fires by burning them alive. How do people fall for this crap?

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 11 août 2012 - 02:23 .

[Eli Parker]

With the EC that came out, where is the start of the Indoctrination Theory in the context of the story? Also with the Leviathan DLCs does that disprove the IT? Also wasn't the "green" ending within the files called a dream and did Bioware every answer that?

[DoomsdayDevice]

Wow, just finished a platinum run with Banshee and two others (no idea who Sanzea and Teamovett are). So intense... xD

I could never have pulled that off without you guys!

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 11 août 2012 - 02:30 .

[TJBartlemus]

<data>I am prepared to hear your solution.</data> - Catalyst

(okay enough spoilers.....if interested just check TSA's thread or the pastebin link...)

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 11 août 2012 - 02:35 .

[BlazingZephyr]

TJBartlemus wrote...

<data>I am prepared to hear your solution.</data> - Catalyst

(okay enough spoilers.....if interested just check TSA's thread or the pastebin link...)

That just sounds like what he'd say right before you choose RG or B.

[TJBartlemus]

Here's a quote from the Catalyst I posted in the first place but I feel was buried.

<data>You don't need hope.</data>

Wha!?!?!?

[TJBartlemus]

The new dialog also explains on how the EMS affects the Destroy effects now. Before what caused the different scenes was questionable but now it seems that the less EMS you have the more damaged the Crucible becomes. The more damaged the more unstable the blast is and more is destroyed. Makes sense...

They even went out to label each one. (In last quote box in first post of page...)

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 11 août 2012 - 02:44 .

[byne]

TJBartlemus wrote...

The new dialog also explains on how the EMS affects the Destroy effects now. Before what caused the different scenes was questionable but now it seems that the less EMS you have the more damaged the Crucible becomes. The more damaged the more unstable the blast is and more is destroyed. Makes sense...

Thats pretty much what it said in the EC too.

[TJBartlemus]

byne wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

The new dialog also explains on how the EMS affects the Destroy effects now. Before what caused the different scenes was questionable but now it seems that the less EMS you have the more damaged the Crucible becomes. The more damaged the more unstable the blast is and more is destroyed. Makes sense...

Thats pretty much what it said in the EC too.

I don't think so. I had the highest EMS and when he went on to describe Destroy I don't remember this.

<data>[GOOD OPTION] Your Crucible device appears to be largely in tact. However, the effects of the blast will not be constrained to the Reapers.</data>  </string>- <string>  <id>748516</id>  <position>83</position>  <data>Technology you rely on will be affected, though those who survive should have little difficulty repairing the damage.</data>  </string>- <string>  <id>748517</id>  <position>84</position>  <data>There will still be losses, but no more than have already been lost in this conflict.</data>  </string>