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[Jere85]

Agreed, i want to wear my hoodie with pride again .

[CoolioThane]

Don't worry Loki, I'm forever an ITer - literally nothing will make me disbelieve it

[DJBare]

Jere85 wrote...

DJBare: Is MP really that big? I wouldn't know i don't play it, and how does it make money? spectre packs that ppl buy? i remember using the credits i get for missions for it, and when i got inpatient i just used cheats Don't see how it would make money, exept for the consoles perhaps.

It's now "money for nothing"; I've seen people state they purchase upgrades and ammo with real cash, what they are buying is replicated code, heck the the development of the ammo code probably paid for itself in the first day, just like your game, people are purchasing "copies" not new developed code, and anything new can be a tweak of some thing that already exists, the SP already made a tidy profit, any other cash coming in now is a bonus.

[ebuchala]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Yeah, I get ya. "Worn down" definitely also describes the way I feel the best.

Playing Sherlock with ME3 was fun at the beginning but I do feel the need to finish the damn story. Not that I would have something against blue babies, moreover, blue babies only make sense post-ending, anyway.

But first and foremost, as you wrote, the feeling of victory isn't there. That doesn't mean that Bioware can't deliver: the feeling during the final shot of Shepard above a planet in ME1...priceless, I never felt that sense of accomplishment in a video-game before and again.

So the can do it...but they decided against it.

Did you like that scene at the end of ME1? I thought it was rather cheesy myself. I LOVED the ending scene in ME2 where Shep is walking through the ship, acknowledging his team as they're preparing for whatever's next. That was an extremely satisfying ending for me.

ME3 definitely needs something else added to make the ending more satisfying.

[The Heretic of Time]

CoolioThane wrote...

"Nyar Nyar bad writing snort snort" is not true so leave it out.

Yes it is. Wake up.

You claim to know what Casey chose to do without being him...could have been other people...and you don't know it's not IT.
Lol

I did not claim such thing. Read my posts more carefully next time before you shout nonsense about me.


The IT isn't true because the IT is silly wishful thinking from the fans. The IT is juts a fancy Reset Button offered through a stupid All Just a Dream retcon allowing BioWare to basically retcon the silly ending as "all just a dream, never really happened in real-life" and resetting the whole story back to right before the Harbinger beam.

What you basically say is: "Hey BioWare, your ending SUCKS, we want a new ending, so why don't you just retcon your current ending by saying it was all just a bad dream and then finally give us a good ending? How about that BioWare?"

IT would also make the EC pointless and Redundant. Why expland on endings that aren't real in the first place? Doesn't make much sense does it?


Face it, the endings we have now are real, the IT is wishful thinking. Estabanus realized this. Now it's your turn.

CoolioThane wrote...

Don't worry Loki, I'm forever an ITer - literally nothing will make me disbelieve it

It sound like the IT has become your religion.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 12 août 2012 - 01:53 .

[Jere85]

If IT would be a religion, i wouldn't be an Atheïst.

[MaximizedAction]

ebuchala wrote...
Did you like that scene at the end of ME1? I thought it was rather cheesy myself. I LOVED the ending scene in ME2 where Shep is walking through the ship, acknowledging his team as they're preparing for whatever's next. That was an extremely satisfying ending for me.

ME3 definitely needs something else added to make the ending more satisfying.

It was HORRIBLY cheesy, and I knew that back then but still....got goosebumps. It's like watching Star Trek TNG today for me, it is cheesy once I know that alternative approaches to the 'future' like BSG are also entertaining, but I still enjoy the sh*t out of episodes where the crew is just sitting at the poker table the whole episode or Picard makes an epic speech.
Cheesy-ness doesn't exclude epicness and vica verse.

The ending of ME2 was of course also very cool. The walk on the Normandy, looking at the datapad and looking out in the 'window', very "Empire Strikes Back" like, only a bit darker.

And because of these similarities with the original Star Wars trilogy I was hoping for the Ewok party...and the final shot of the Normandy crew...then credits roll with "Executive Producer -- Casey Hudson". Cheesy, but I'd still have applauded.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 12 août 2012 - 01:56 .

[DJBare]

Jere85 wrote...

If IT would be a religion, i wouldn't be an Atheïst.

I'm thinking more like purgatory.

[MegumiAzusa]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Always nice to see people skipping posts/arguments they have no counter against.

[Lyria]

MaximizedAction,
Can you repost that link to the article where the writer talks about the ending that includes a mini primer on the craft of writing?

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

ebuchala wrote...
Did you like that scene at the end of ME1? I thought it was rather cheesy myself. I LOVED the ending scene in ME2 where Shep is walking through the ship, acknowledging his team as they're preparing for whatever's next. That was an extremely satisfying ending for me.

ME3 definitely needs something else added to make the ending more satisfying.

It was HORRIBLY cheesy, and I knew that back then but still....got goosebumps. It's like watching Star Trek TNG today for me, it is cheesy once I know that alternative approaches to the 'future' like BSG are also entertaining, but I still enjoy the sh*t out of episodes where the crew is just sitting at the poker table the whole episode or Picard makes an epic speech.
Cheesy-ness doesn't exclude epicness and vica verse.

The ending of ME2 was of course also very cool. The walk on the Normandy, looking at the datapad and looking out in the 'window', very "Empire Strikes Back" like, only a bit darker.

And because of these similarities with the original Star Wars trilogy I was hoping for the Ewok party...and the final shot of the Normandy crew...then credits roll with "Executive Producer -- Casey Hudson". Cheesy, but I'd still have applauded.

DS9 had some episodes that were like BSG alpha
(though that could be because of the people behind it)

For me the Shep looking out of the window reminded me more of the first scene in ME1, but now instead of the Earth she stares into the emptiness of space.

[The Heretic of Time]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Always nice to see people skipping posts/arguments they have no counter against.

IAlways nice to see people assuming that when you simply don't reply to someone's post you probably don't have an argument against it.


How about this? 

Maybe I didn't find your post worth replying to.


Or perhaps this?

Maybe I just simply overlooked your post (due to the insane amount of commets that are getting post in this thread in such a short time).


Or maybe this?

Maybe I left the forum right before you posted your post (my life is more than just posting on BSN you know), resulting in me missing your post.

[Schachmatt123]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Yes it is. Wake up.

Nonsens. Stop repeating your retarded wonnabe arguments.


The IT isn't true because the IT is silly wishful thinking from the fans. The IT is juts a fancy Reset Button offered through a stupid All Just a Dream retcon allowing BioWare to basically retcon the silly ending as "all just a dream, never really happened in real-life" and resetting the whole story back to right before the Harbinger beam.

That's a lie. IT is way more than that. You know nothing about the IT.


What you basically say is: "Hey BioWare, your ending SUCKS, we want a new ending, so why don't you just retcon your current ending by saying it was all just a bad dream and then finally give us a good ending? How about that BioWare?"

Ridiculous. IT is not only about the endings. It's way more than that. You should learn the basics. Don't be silly.


It sound like the IT has become your religion.

Nope. A religion would be that retarded bad writing theorie. IT is based on ingame facts, bad writing is grasping at straws. The bad writing theory also died a miserable death, while IT is still alive and strong. Stop living in delusions.

Modifié par Schachmatt, 12 août 2012 - 03:01 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Heretic:

Speaking as a writer myself, good writers don't make situations where the only reason for a continuing story is "plot armor." Here, an alternate, less plot-armory section that took me less than 10 minutes to come up with:

The run to the beam is instead a mad dash through cover with a time limit, which is displayed on the HUD. If the counter reaches zero, Harby finally finds you and incinerates you. The mad dash through cover is in the style of Tuchanka's final part and there are more people assualting the beam from other sides. There are also about a dozen small fighters keeling Harby busy, because if the Normandy can go down there why can't they? At the end, when Shepard is supposed to be knocked out, a fighter is shot down and lands nearly on top of Shepard. Harbinger doesn't see anything else, so he leaves to go back to the fight. Also, your squadies have to be evacced because a piece of rubble falls on them and your less-injured squadmate promises to take the more-injured back a ways then call the Normandy.

Euhmmmm, that still doesn't explain why Shepard doesn't die when he gets full-blown hit by the Harbinger beam.


So how do you want to explain that without using "plot armor" as an excuse? Okay, you're probably going to use IT as an excuse, but lets assume for a moment that you do not believe in IT and everything that happens is real: How would you explain the fact that Shepard survives a hit from the reaper laser? What kind of explanation would you as a self-proclaimed writer write for this?

[Lyria]

Ah BSG, you were gone too soon. Speaking of corporate overlords ruining and rushing a story, EA is like the SyFy channel of videogames. Rushing production for profit, denying writers the time to finish a story properly, and putting more money into media that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

[Lyria]

Schachmatt wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Yes it is. Wake up.

Nonsens. Stop repeating your retarded wonna-be arguments.


The IT isn't true because the IT is silly wishful thinking from the fans. The IT is juts a fancy Reset Button offered through a stupid All Just a Dream retcon allowing BioWare to basically retcon the silly ending as "all just a dream, never really happened in real-life" and resetting the whole story back to right before the Harbinger beam.

That's a lie. IT is way more than that. You know nothing about the IT.


What you basically say is: "Hey BioWare, your ending SUCKS, we want a new ending, so why don't you just retcon your current ending by saying it was all just a bad dream and then finally give us a good ending? How about that BioWare?"

Ridiculous. IT is not only about the endings. It's way more than that. You should learn the basics. Don't be silly.


It sound like the IT has become your religion.

Nope. A religion would be that retarded bad writing theorie. IT is based on ingame facts, bad writing is grasping at straws emergency induction ports. The bad writing theory also died a miserable death, while IT is still alive and strong. Stop living in delusions.

There fixed that for ya.

[TSA_383]

MaximizedAction wrote...

DJBare wrote...
I did begin to get in to MP for a short time, but was not long before I lost interest, I really do not want my SP experience to be reliant on some thing I have no interest in, I wanted a feeling of victory, not what we got or blue babies, just a satisfied feeling that my Shepard did all s/he could do, if ME3 is going to be some kind of mini series, they should have said so in the beginning, to be frankly honest I'm getting worn down and burned out as this farce continues.

Yeah, I get ya. "Worn down" definitely also describes the way I feel the best.

Playing Sherlock with ME3 was fun at the beginning but I do feel the need to finish the damn story.

This.

Welp, Leviathan's out on the 28th.
If that doesn't bring something big to the table then I really will be struggling to give a ****.
I am still optimistic, based on what we know of the plot and script so far...

[The Heretic of Time]

Schachmatt wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Yes it is. Wake up.

Nonsens. Stop repeating your retarded wonna-be arguments.

Learn basic English please if you want me to take you seriously. Even masster blasster writers better English than you.

Also, colouring your "arguments" red and making them cursive doesn't make your "arguments" any stronger.

Nope. A religion would be that retarded bad writing theorie. IT is based on ingame facts, bad writing is grasping at straws. The bad writing theory also died a miserable death, while IT is still alive and strong. Stop living in delusions.

You don't see me saying that I'd always believe ME3 is badly written no matter what happenes, do you?


No, the IT is not based on ingame facts, the IT is based on your personal interpretation of in-game facts. It's all based on speculation, interepretation, more speculation and more interpretation. There are no facts in the IT.

My "bad writing theory" joke thread might have died, but that's only because 99 other threads are also about ME3 being badly written, while you guys only have 1 puny little thread with a dozen hardcore IT followers. The IT is dying and more and more people will eventually wake up, move on and leave this theory.

Estabanus is only the most recent girl who stopt believing in your theory. Many people before her stopped believing and many people after her will stop believing.


And you? when will YOU stop believing? When the Leviathan DLC is released and doesn't add anything that supports the IT? When the Omega DLC is released and doesn't add anything to the IT? When the multiplayer campaign comes to an end and doesn't add anything to the IT? Or when BioWare finally stops making ME3 DLC and still hasn't add anything to the IT?

[ebuchala]

MaximizedAction wrote...

It was HORRIBLY cheesy, and I knew that back then but still....got goosebumps. It's like watching Star Trek TNG today for me, it is cheesy once I know that alternative approaches to the 'future' like BSG are also entertaining, but I still enjoy the sh*t out of episodes where the crew is just sitting at the poker table the whole episode or Picard makes an epic speech.
Cheesy-ness doesn't exclude epicness and vica verse.

The ending of ME2 was of course also very cool. The walk on the Normandy, looking at the datapad and looking out in the 'window', very "Empire Strikes Back" like, only a bit darker.

And because of these similarities with the original Star Wars trilogy I was hoping for the Ewok party...and the final shot of the Normandy crew...then credits roll with "Executive Producer -- Casey Hudson". Cheesy, but I'd still have applauded.

I would have applauded that myself--that would've been fun.

[The Heretic of Time]

protognosis wrote...

Ah BSG, you were gone too soon. Speaking of corporate overlords ruining and rushing a story, EA is like the SyFy channel of videogames. Rushing production for profit, denying writers the time to finish a story properly, and putting more money into media that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

So you do admit that story of ME3 is rushed and badly written due to EA pushing BioWare to appeal to the masse and to release their game ASAP for maximum profits. Or do I misunderstand your post?

[AxStapleton]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

"Nyar Nyar bad writing snort snort" is not true so leave it out.

Yes it is. Wake up.

You claim to know what Casey chose to do without being him...could have been other people...and you don't know it's not IT.
Lol

I did not claim such thing. Read my posts more carefully next time before you shout nonsense about me.


The IT isn't true because the IT is silly wishful thinking from the fans. The IT is juts a fancy Reset Button offered through a stupid All Just a Dream retcon allowing BioWare to basically retcon the silly ending as "all just a dream, never really happened in real-life" and resetting the whole story back to right before the Harbinger beam.

What you basically say is: "Hey BioWare, your ending SUCKS, we want a new ending, so why don't you just retcon your current ending by saying it was all just a bad dream and then finally give us a good ending? How about that BioWare?"

IT would also make the EC pointless and Redundant. Why expland on endings that aren't real in the first place? Doesn't make much sense does it?


Face it, the endings we have now are real, the IT is wishful thinking. Estabanus realized this. Now it's your turn.

CoolioThane wrote...

Don't worry Loki, I'm forever an ITer - literally nothing will make me disbelieve it

It sound like the IT has become your religion.

No offense intended, but why do you care so much? Of course it's good to hear different points of view but you don't need to burst a blood vessel over it. In my opinion, if it's true all well and good. If it isn't, oh well. I'll just move on.

[ebuchala]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Always nice to see people skipping posts/arguments they have no counter against.

IAlways nice to see people assuming that when you simply don't reply to someone's post you probably don't have an argument against it.


How about this? 

Maybe I didn't find your post worth replying to.


Or perhaps this?

Maybe I just simply overlooked your post (due to the insane amount of commets that are getting post in this thread in such a short time).


Or maybe this?

Maybe I left the forum right before you posted your post (my life is more than just posting on BSN you know), resulting in me missing your post.

Niiiiiiice deflection.

[ebuchala]

AxStapleton wrote...

No offense intended, but why do you care so much? Of course it's good to hear different points of view but you don't need to burst a blood vessel over it. In my opinion, if it's true all well and good. If it isn't, oh well. I'll just move on.

+1

And it's fun to speculate, look for hidden clues, etc.

[The Heretic of Time]

AxStapleton wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

"Nyar Nyar bad writing snort snort" is not true so leave it out.

Yes it is. Wake up.

You claim to know what Casey chose to do without being him...could have been other people...and you don't know it's not IT.
Lol

I did not claim such thing. Read my posts more carefully next time before you shout nonsense about me.


The IT isn't true because the IT is silly wishful thinking from the fans. The IT is juts a fancy Reset Button offered through a stupid All Just a Dream retcon allowing BioWare to basically retcon the silly ending as "all just a dream, never really happened in real-life" and resetting the whole story back to right before the Harbinger beam.

What you basically say is: "Hey BioWare, your ending SUCKS, we want a new ending, so why don't you just retcon your current ending by saying it was all just a bad dream and then finally give us a good ending? How about that BioWare?"

IT would also make the EC pointless and Redundant. Why expland on endings that aren't real in the first place? Doesn't make much sense does it?


Face it, the endings we have now are real, the IT is wishful thinking. Estabanus realized this. Now it's your turn.

CoolioThane wrote...

Don't worry Loki, I'm forever an ITer - literally nothing will make me disbelieve it

It sound like the IT has become your religion.

No offense intended, but why do you care so much? Of course it's good to hear different points of view but you don't need to burst a blood vessel over it. In my opinion, if it's true all well and good. If it isn't, oh well. I'll just move on.

Oh don't worry, I'm not bursting a blood vessel, unless you can burst a blood vessel from laughter? Dunno, is that even possible to burst a blood vessel from having the giggles?


Well, at least you have a realistic view on all this. Unlike certain people who say they'll always believe in IT and nothing ever will make them disbelieve it. 

[CoolioThane]

Lol Hanar is still a blinkered troll.

You completely ignore the main questions we ask instead resorting to:

"Fnar bad writing"
"you're delusional"
"lol a religion"

You're a ****ing dumbarse