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[plfranke]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

No, Harby was trying not to kill Shep

How is shooting a goddamn beam of liquid metal at Shepard not trying to kill him?

If Harby didn't want to kill Shepard, he could have started with not shooting at him. Derp. 

how exactly do you think shepard survived the blast when tanks and gunships couldn't?

[CoolioThane]

"He made no effort to kill Shep, but the desire was there"?

I don't understand...

If he had tried to kill Shep, we'd be dead.

If he didn't try he's obviously not trying to kill us, which is what I'm sating

[Rosewind]

Arrrrrrgh I am the Pirate Queen!!

[TSA_383]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

No, Harby was trying not to kill Shep

How is shooting a goddamn beam of liquid metal at Shepard not trying to kill him?

If Harby didn't want to kill Shepard, he could have started with not shooting at him. Derp. 

Have you totally forgotten all of ME2 + Arrival?

The last two lines of the DLC that was sold as a "Bridging" DLC to ME3:
"Struggle if you must, your mind will be ours"

Harbinger had no intention of killing shepard, they want him/her alive.

[CoolioThane]

Javik: "mourning the loss of innocents is foolish. It is inevitable" like this line

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

TSA_383 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

No, Harby was trying not to kill Shep

How is shooting a goddamn beam of liquid metal at Shepard not trying to kill him?

If Harby didn't want to kill Shepard, he could have started with not shooting at him. Derp. 

Have you totally forgotten all of ME2 + Arrival?

The last two lines of the DLC that was sold as a "Bridging" DLC to ME3:
"Struggle if you must, your mind will be ours"

Harbinger had no intention of killing shepard, they want him/her alive.

Yeah and considering Harbinger was bullseyeing Soldiers and Vehicles left and right I think we can be certain if he had wanted Shepard to die from that blast, Shepard would have died.

[cydoniawarrior]

I am agnostic, when it comes to the IT, I don't mind the EC as it makes me feel that I actually fought for something, the galaxy can rebuild, and my LI comes to look for me. That said, the kid is a pain in the backside. I'd of preferred to chat to harbinger, but I digress. The IT is very interesting and the evidence is pretty good, but I don't actually know what to believe.

[Rosewind]

cydoniawarrior wrote...

I am agnostic, when it comes to the IT, I don't mind the EC as it makes me feel that I actually fought for something, the galaxy can rebuild, and my LI comes to look for me. That said, the kid is a pain in the backside. I'd of preferred to chat to harbinger, but I digress. The IT is very interesting and the evidence is pretty good, but I don't actually know what to believe.

Believe in your instincts that's what we all do here, what does you gut feeling tell you?

[cydoniawarrior]

Rosewind wrote...

cydoniawarrior wrote...

I am agnostic, when it comes to the IT, I don't mind the EC as it makes me feel that I actually fought for something, the galaxy can rebuild, and my LI comes to look for me. That said, the kid is a pain in the backside. I'd of preferred to chat to harbinger, but I digress. The IT is very interesting and the evidence is pretty good, but I don't actually know what to believe.

Believe in your instincts that's what we all do here, what does you gut feeling tell you?

Sadly my gut says the IT is wrong, my heart would like it to be true as would be, for lack of a better term; an absolute mind****. I'm keeping an open mind though.

[estebanus]

Rosewind wrote...

Arrrrrrgh I am the Pirate Queen!!

Shiver me timbers!

[Leonia]

CoolioThane wrote...

"He made no effort to kill Shep, but the desire was there"?

I don't understand...

If he had tried to kill Shep, we'd be dead.

If he didn't try he's obviously not trying to kill us, which is what I'm sating

Lots of people have tried to kill Shepard without success.

I'm only pointing out that NONE of us know what Harbinger's intentions are though we can speculate about why he wants Shepard's body and/or mind so badly.

[estebanus]

cydoniawarrior wrote...

Sadly my gut says the IT is wrong, my heart would like it to be true as would be, for lack of a better term; an absolute mind****. I'm keeping an open mind though.

Yeah, that's pretty much my stance, too. I support the IT as an interpretation and theory, but I don't believe in it, at least not anymore. I'd like it to be true, but I don't think it is.

[CoolioThane]

cydoniawarrior wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

cydoniawarrior wrote...

I am agnostic, when it comes to the IT, I don't mind the EC as it makes me feel that I actually fought for something, the galaxy can rebuild, and my LI comes to look for me. That said, the kid is a pain in the backside. I'd of preferred to chat to harbinger, but I digress. The IT is very interesting and the evidence is pretty good, but I don't actually know what to believe.

Believe in your instincts that's what we all do here, what does you gut feeling tell you?

Sadly my gut says the IT is wrong, my heart would like it to be true as would be, for lack of a better term; an absolute mind****. I'm keeping an open mind though.

Flip a coin. You'll realise what you want whilst it flips 

[estebanus]

CoolioThane wrote...

cydoniawarrior wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

cydoniawarrior wrote...

I am agnostic, when it comes to the IT, I don't mind the EC as it makes me feel that I actually fought for something, the galaxy can rebuild, and my LI comes to look for me. That said, the kid is a pain in the backside. I'd of preferred to chat to harbinger, but I digress. The IT is very interesting and the evidence is pretty good, but I don't actually know what to believe.

Believe in your instincts that's what we all do here, what does you gut feeling tell you?

Sadly my gut says the IT is wrong, my heart would like it to be true as would be, for lack of a better term; an absolute mind****. I'm keeping an open mind though.

Flip a coin. You'll realise what you want whilst it flips 

Yup, that actually works.

[CoolioThane]

leonia42 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

"He made no effort to kill Shep, but the desire was there"?

I don't understand...

If he had tried to kill Shep, we'd be dead.

If he didn't try he's obviously not trying to kill us, which is what I'm sating

Lots of people have tried to kill Shepard without success.

I'm only pointing out that NONE of us know what Harbinger's intentions are though we can speculate about why he wants Shepard's body and/or mind so badly.

Ok I get you! 

I would say it's clear Harby doesn't want Shep dead though, considering the "your mind will be mine" comment, could have had her killed whilst unconscious for two days, beam which kills destroyers only hurts he 

Only my opinion

[CoolioThane]

estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

cydoniawarrior wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

cydoniawarrior wrote...

I am agnostic, when it comes to the IT, I don't mind the EC as it makes me feel that I actually fought for something, the galaxy can rebuild, and my LI comes to look for me. That said, the kid is a pain in the backside. I'd of preferred to chat to harbinger, but I digress. The IT is very interesting and the evidence is pretty good, but I don't actually know what to believe.

Believe in your instincts that's what we all do here, what does you gut feeling tell you?

Sadly my gut says the IT is wrong, my heart would like it to be true as would be, for lack of a better term; an absolute mind****. I'm keeping an open mind though.

Flip a coin. You'll realise what you want whilst it flips 

Yup, that actually works.

Sarcasm. 

[estebanus]

CoolioThane wrote...

Sarcasm. 

No, I was being serious. It really does work. I do that all the time when I have to make a difficult decision.

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Interesting thread:
http://social.biowar...index/13636961/

MetioricTest wrote...

In some ways he ties in terribly (Like the Reapers ignoring Relay control this time around for unclear reasons)

But I prefer how he (accidentally) foreshadows the Catalyst.... And then proceeds to (accidentally) foreshadow why people don't like the Catalyst.

Vigil: "The Citadel is a trap. The station is actually an enormous Mass Relay. One that links to Dark Space, The empty void beyond the Galaxy's horizon. When the relay is activated, The reapers will pour through and all you know will be destroyed."

Shepard: "How come nobody ever knew the Citadel was an inactive Mass Relay?"

Vigil: "The Reapers are careful to keep the greatest secrets of the Citadel hidden. That is why they created a species of seemingly benign organic Caretakers. The Keepers maintain the station's basic functions, they enable any species that discovers the Citadel to use it without understanding their technology. Reliance on the keepers ensures that no other species will ever discover the Citadel's true nature.

Shepard: "But what do they get out this? Why do they keep repeating this pattern of genocide over and over?"

Vigil: "The Reapers, unknowable. Perhaps they need slaves or resources. More likely they are driven by goals organics cannot hope to comprehend. In the end, what does it matter? Your survival depends on destroying them. Not understanding them."


As far as "Random guys who pop up and give you all the exposition" go, Vigil is probably my favorite. Vendetta was no where near as cool.,

Could this be how the Reapers arrived to fast, considering they 'started their engines' somewhere in or before ME2? Realistically it should take maaany years reach the milky way from dark space. So let's assume that somewhere, ME is still trying to be realistic.

What speaks against them coming in through the Citadel array but due to the long-term indoc. of the folks at the Citadel, and basically everyone using the Relay network, they made sure nobody made a big deal out of them arriving from there -- and in retrospect it's really not that important, but just out of academical interest...

estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Sarcasm. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

No, I was being serious. It really does work. I do that all the time when I have to make a difficult decision.

Harvey Dent, much?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 12 août 2012 - 05:07 .

[masster blaster]

Hanar just leave. Yor not disscusing IT at all. You just keep saying plot armor, and more BS. Shepard can die from other Reaper beams, so why not Harbinger? Why did Harbinger just wastch Shepard for 5 MIN and did nothing. Why let the Normandy leave, or kill Shepard right there.

" Oh that would just end the story.. BS." If that was the case, the Shepard should survie the Harbingers beam, when you are talking to your sqaud mates to leave. And it's funny how Anderson still appers on the Citadel, with no injurys at all. Not a mark on him, and why wasn't he running with Shepard at all. If this was the plot armor, then. Have Harbinger miss all of the soldiers and we go in a place that TAKES us to a Control room, that we have never bin to.

So you have two options if you don't like IT any more leave and never come back.

Or 2 be very quiet because oh and I not sure who said the comic books are canon, but they should go back and read them.

They are not Canon. They are like the history books of ME. Think about it Kai Leng, and Sanders, from the Comics. You should have know them, and why they are in ME3 if you read the comic books.

Also Evoultion is similar to what TIM is doind in ME3, only TIM is not trying to stop Saren's brother, into thinking that he can Control the Meta husk Turians, but TIm believes that he can control the Reapers.

And you know that talk on Thessia with TIM " I have been fighting the Reapers more than you know." Well yes he has been read Evoultion, and all will be explained.

[The Heretic of Time]

plfranke wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

No, Harby was trying not to kill Shep

How is shooting a goddamn beam of liquid metal at Shepard not trying to kill him?

If Harby didn't want to kill Shepard, he could have started with not shooting at him. Derp. 

how exactly do you think shepard survived the blast when tanks and gunships couldn't?

You ask that to me? Ask a BioWare writer. I wouldn't know.

The same way I don't know how Shepard's body could survive entering the atmosphere of the planet in the beginning of ME2. How exactyly do you think Shepard survived re-entry when he was falling towards the planet at the beginning of ME2?

[MegumiAzusa]

Btw relevant to Harby shooting Shep:
http://www.youtube.c...g80k6VZKY#t=55s

[Priss Blackburne]

masster blaster wrote...

Hanar just leave. Yor not disscusing IT at all. You just keep saying plot armor, and more BS. Shepard can die from other Reaper beams, so why not Harbinger? Why did Harbinger just wastch Shepard for 5 MIN and did nothing. Why let the Normandy leave, or kill Shepard right there.

" Oh that would just end the story.. BS." If that was the case, the Shepard should survie the Harbingers beam, when you are talking to your sqaud mates to leave. And it's funny how Anderson still appers on the Citadel, with no injurys at all. Not a mark on him, and why wasn't he running with Shepard at all. If this was the plot armor, then. Have Harbinger miss all of the soldiers and we go in a place that TAKES us to a Control room, that we have never bin to.

So you have two options if you don't like IT any more leave and never come back.

Or 2 be very quiet because oh and I not sure who said the comic books are canon, but they should go back and read them.

They are not Canon. They are like the history books of ME. Think about it Kai Leng, and Sanders, from the Comics. You should have know them, and why they are in ME3 if you read the comic books.

Also Evoultion is similar to what TIM is doind in ME3, only TIM is not trying to stop Saren's brother, into thinking that he can Control the Meta husk Turians, but TIm believes that he can control the Reapers.

And you know that talk on Thessia with TIM " I have been fighting the Reapers more than you know." Well yes he has been read Evoultion, and all will be explained.

Not sure what your trying to say..the comics aren't canon but are like history? that would mean they are canon in regards to the mass effect universe. unless your not understanding what canon means.

And Kai Leng and Sanders where in the novels not the comics.

[plfranke]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

No, Harby was trying not to kill Shep

How is shooting a goddamn beam of liquid metal at Shepard not trying to kill him?

If Harby didn't want to kill Shepard, he could have started with not shooting at him. Derp. 

how exactly do you think shepard survived the blast when tanks and gunships couldn't?

You ask that to me? Ask a BioWare writer. I wouldn't know.

The same way I don't know how Shepard's body could survive entering the atmosphere of the planet in the beginning of ME2. How exactyly do you think Shepard survived re-entry when he was falling towards the planet at the beginning of ME2?

Bioware writers aren't on this thread telling me that Harbinger was trying to kill Shepard, you are. And he didn't survive he died. Lazarus Project?

[DJBare]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...
The same way I don't know how Shepard's body could survive entering the atmosphere of the planet in the beginning of ME2. How exactyly do you think Shepard survived re-entry when he was falling towards the planet at the beginning of ME2?

That's a scene I will never buy in to, dead is dead, it's just three minutes until the brain synapses collapse and decay, even if they had by some miracle jump started the brain, the personality and memories would no longer exist.

[The Heretic of Time]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Btw relevant to Harby shooting Shep:
http://www.youtube.c...g80k6VZKY#t=55s

Nice try, but a liquid metal laser is not the same as bullets. You can't shoot a concussive liquid metal laser beam.