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CoolioThane

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estebanus wrote...

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Then why post? It was only going to get a negative reaction considering the antagonistic nature of the question. 

Thats n what I said. Whenever people post off topic out of the blue you don't jump on it like you have done here. I called you an arse for the negative and rude nature of your post.

Get over it. I didn't call you an idiot, I called people who HATE IT idiots FFs.

What? Are you talking about that thing a few days ago? I never thought you called me an idiot.




You posted "that's nice you calling me an idiot" forgive me for thinking you thought I called you an idiot.

Look, let's just drop it. The greatest Olympics ever is over and I'm sad :crying:

Modifié par CoolioThane, 12 août 2012 - 10:43 .


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estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Watching the closing ceremony to the greatest Olympics of all time! So proud to be British.

There a reason you need to tell us this?


There a reason you need to be an arse? People can talk about bloody anime and stuff but because I dare post something because I feel very proud is put of order?


What the hell is your problem? Why so hostile?


Oh jeez, not this sh*t again<_<

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Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

He never said 1st so I still can't see any confusion.
10 of 1000 seems still to be at the start imo.

So why an abstract number?

Why abstract? It was the 10th operation that was successful.

Success:
Goliath
Fortress
Raptor
Beachhead
Resurgence
Exorcist
Shieldwall
Mastiff
Savage
Overwatch

Fail:
Silencer
Broadside


I know you're right about that, it's just that the way Hackett phrased it seemed to suggest that this was the beginning, not part of something that had been going on for a long time.

This, also because I counted all of the ops, not just the ones we won.

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Coolio, let's just stop, ok? Maybe we should just try and avoid each other if we can't get along.

Modifié par estebanus, 12 août 2012 - 10:47 .


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Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

He never said 1st so I still can't see any confusion.
10 of 1000 seems still to be at the start imo.

So why an abstract number?

Why abstract? It was the 10th operation that was successful.

Success:
Goliath
Fortress
Raptor
Beachhead
Resurgence
Exorcist
Shieldwall
Mastiff
Savage
Overwatch

Fail:
Silencer
Broadside


I know you're right about that, it's just that the way Hackett phrased it seemed to suggest that this was the beginning, not part of something that had been going on for a long time.

Reapers still easily outnumber us.

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estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Big Boss when is the anniversary again for ME1.

November 20, 2007, which makes the 5-year anniversary this Tuesday, November 20th. :wizard:

hintity-hint-hint. I wonder what'll happen on that date...


BioWare will release a costume pack! =]

Yay! Hopefully I can have a Santa Claus armor set!


If you get a Santa Claus armor set, then I want an Easter Bunny armor set!

Don't forget the Saint Valentine's armor and weapons pack! It adds the bow of love and the Lover's armor!

Lover's armor? Posted Image Does it come with free pie?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Big Boss when is the anniversary again for ME1.

November 20, 2007, which makes the 5-year anniversary this Tuesday, November 20th. :wizard:

hintity-hint-hint. I wonder what'll happen on that date...


BioWare will release a costume pack! =]

Yay! Hopefully I can have a Santa Claus armor set!


If you get a Santa Claus armor set, then I want an Easter Bunny armor set!

Don't forget the Saint Valentine's armor and weapons pack! It adds the bow of love and the Lover's armor!

Lover's armor? Posted Image Does it come with free pie?

Indeed it does!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Big Boss when is the anniversary again for ME1.

November 20, 2007, which makes the 5-year anniversary this Tuesday, November 20th. :wizard:

hintity-hint-hint. I wonder what'll happen on that date...


BioWare will release a costume pack! =]

Yay! Hopefully I can have a Santa Claus armor set!


If you get a Santa Claus armor set, then I want an Easter Bunny armor set!

Don't forget the Saint Valentine's armor and weapons pack! It adds the bow of love and the Lover's armor!

Lover's armor? Posted Image Does it come with free pie?

Only with Janeway pie.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Only with Janeway pie.

Janeway as in from Star Trek?

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estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Only with Janeway pie.

Janeway as in from Star Trek?

Yes. And for the ones not watching STV:
Janeway Pi is the start of her code for the self destruct :P

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Don't forget the Saint Valentine's armor and weapons pack! It adds the bow of love and the Lover's armor!

Lover's armor? Posted Image Does it come with free pie?

Indeed it does!

Sweet! I was just thinking about what lover's armor would look like...Posted Image

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You bring up a good point about Rio. Aren't all the other multiplayer maps places that we have gone in single-player?

Yes. I'll repost something I wrote before you arrived on this thread about that.

Okay. So I'll start by saying I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything here; this is just my interpretation.

So I felt like I'd compile a list of evidence (to me at least) from the new Earth DLC and its trailer. You could boil it down to reused assets if you want but "nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise". Here it goes.

Let's start with the DLC itself, not the trailer

Grasping at straws emergency induction ports: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal. Posted Image

Not grasping at straws emergency induction ports: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remember he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly putting on a North American accent I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. Maybe the Normandy is fighting in space and if you don't have the GX12 the three engies get vapourised! Posted ImageIt's a big "if" but I don't care.

The warning sign in Firebase Vancouver. You see it immediately after exiting the enormous ladder that it also a vent. Not just any warning sign either. The one used in SP Vancouver with the kid. The one (no longer) specific to that scene. Note it says "Warning: Code 89" on it. A Code 89 means a crime against nature = a reaper.

The existence of Firebase Rio: I'll start here by explaining why I think the map's existence is important. All of the MP maps are based off sections of the SP we've played on with the apparent exception of 2: Firebase Hydra and, now, Firebase Rio. But I don't think Hydra is somewhere we didn't go. Let me explain. As far as we can tell, (credit to BleedingUranium here) Firebase Hydra is most likely the cut beginning of the Geth consensus mission. I'll list the evidence I can think of off the top of my head for this:
- The map has Geth fighters on it; in effect it seems to be a fighter base.
- The map was released very soon after the base game; it would have already fully/partially existed.
- The map fits fairly well with the current mission. If you didn't notice on the map itself, there are Geth virtual reality pods in its control room, near an unused tram system.
- As you can see from the following vid at starting at about 1:40, the scene cuts quite abruptly from Shepard walking with his squad at the beginning of the mission (like always happens in missions right before taking control of Shepard) to the squad being inside. Shepard then pops out a heat sink. Why would you need to do that if you haven't fought anyone yet?
- There is no actual combat in this mission. I think the MP map area would have been it, but was cut most likely to either shorten the mission or, more likely, so as not to break the non-reality aspect of the mission.
Geth consensus mission:
So my point here is to simply emphasize that all MP maps, even Hydra, are based of SP locations. IMO this is clear evidence that points to a post ending DLC, seeing as they only way I can think of Rio being in SP is IT.

Rio: The map itself is quite interesting and unique, as it features a large as-of-yet unknown facility in the ocean. The whole area is heavily defended, and has the look of something quite important (some sort of research facility?) Close to the landing pad the N7 operatives land on, there is a gate (already open in MP) that says "Restricted Access" or something to that effect. This is the direction you would travel in the Rio SP mission. Following that path you will soon end up at the control-center looking thing in the middle of the map. This sparked my attention, and I immediately started looking for a ladder. Sure enough, go inside this and look up. There is a trap door in the ceiling. Looks like the ladder going through the trap door was cut in MP for obvious reasons. So the objective thus far would be to get inside the control center and activate the AA guns/drain the water/open the facility somehow. Not sure exactly how the mission would go after that, but whether this is an N7 facility or not, it is impressive that it has been this well defended up until the fleets' arrival. This would also most likely answer the question of how we would defeat the reapers if IT is true. Perhaps there is some sort of weapon there? Speculation for everyone.

Earth MP trailer:
Aside from being quite epic, the trailer is very interesting IMO. For starters, this trailer confirms the MP timeline. The fleets are just about to arrive. This fits with the IT reveal possibly fitting within the MP timeline. Anyway, at 0:23, it looks like instead of Shepard, Anderson, and the squad, they replaced their models with the MP characters. This on its own means nothing; it is reusing assets. What is interesting is at 0:27-0:30 and at 0:38 especially it also looks like reused assets. But from where? There is no Rio SP mission. (Or is there?Posted Image) Let's look into 0:38-0:43 more closely. Assuming this is SP with the models replaced with MP characters, it would most likely be Shepard (judging from the looking-around animation and the camera emphasis on the destroyer-soldier, I would assume this is the replacement for Shepard's model), 2 squadmates and Anderson(?) having already dealt with Coats in London.Posted ImageFurther evidence for this is the lack of Cobras on their backs. IMO the trailer screamed "This isn't over yet!" Anderson's "Until the fleets return" line seemed to me that we have to hold out until "the fleets" arrive, metaphorically. Also, I heard that Anderson's trailer speech is, for the most part, in the EC files. Why they would be there is a mystery to me, as I can't even think of an IT reason for it. If you can, please post it.

So yeah, there you go. Some things to think about! Posted Image

That was my post, but I've thought of a couple of other things since then. Like the facility building a mass relay, and what we were just talking about with code 990.

Edit: Fixed the top.


Wow, I don't know what to say. I hope it's true.

Great job... this kind of stuff is why we all keep coming in here.

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estebanus wrote...

Coolio, let's just stop, ok? Maybe we should just try and avoid each other if we can't get along.


As I've said I've got nothing against you buy if you are antagonistic to me expect it back.  I do not need to avoid anyone, but it's cool if you do. Good for you ;)

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...
*snip*
Wow, I don't know what to say. I hope it's true.

Great job... this kind of stuff is why we all keep coming in here.

Thanks. I was beginning to think no one read it. Posted Image It was pretty long though.

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CoolioThane wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Coolio, let's just stop, ok? Maybe we should just try and avoid each other if we can't get along.


As I've said I've got nothing against you buy if you are antagonistic to me expect it back.  I do not need to avoid anyone, but it's cool if you do. Good for you ;)

Yeah, because that isn't childish at all. Nope, totally mature right there.

I was proposing it as a ceasefire, but it's apparent you'd like to keep on fighting. Fine then. Don't expect me to take any part in it.

Modifié par estebanus, 12 août 2012 - 11:03 .


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you're both being incredibly immature. Quit it.

Been away olympusing. What'a new?

Modifié par legaldinho, 12 août 2012 - 11:03 .


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estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Coolio, let's just stop, ok? Maybe we should just try and avoid each other if we can't get along.


As I've said I've got nothing against you buy if you are antagonistic to me expect it back.  I do not need to avoid anyone, but it's cool if you do. Good for you ;)

Yeah, because that isn't childish at all. Nope, totally mature right there.

I was proposing it as a ceasefire, but it's apparent you'd like to keep on fighting. Fine then. Don't expect me to take anypart in it.

Ah, come on you 2 that's enough. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Coolio, let's just stop, ok? Maybe we should just try and avoid each other if we can't get along.


As I've said I've got nothing against you buy if you are antagonistic to me expect it back.  I do not need to avoid anyone, but it's cool if you do. Good for you ;)

Yeah, because that isn't childish at all. Nope, totally mature right there.

I was proposing it as a ceasefire, but it's apparent you'd like to keep on fighting. Fine then. Don't expect me to take anypart in it.

Ah, come on you 2 that's enough. Posted Image

I won't.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
*snip*
Wow, I don't know what to say. I hope it's true.

Great job... this kind of stuff is why we all keep coming in here.

Thanks. I was beginning to think no one read it. Posted Image It was pretty long though.


I read it, too! Well done.

Good catch on Hydra and the Rio clip in the Earth DLC trailer.

I also wanted to add that Hydra seems like an appropriate designation for a geth base. A beast with many heads for robots made of many programs.

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What the ****? How is saying "I wont be angry with you if you aren't with me" childish?

Jesus H Christ, I tried to end it an you see it as an attack. ****ing hell

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CoolioThane wrote...

What the ****? How is saying "I wont be angry with you if you aren't with me" childish?

Jesus H Christ, I tried to end it an you see it as an attack. ****ing hell


Coolio, just let it go.

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CoolioThane wrote...

What the ****? How is saying "I wont be angry with you if you aren't with me" childish?

Jesus H Christ, I tried to end it an you see it as an attack. ****ing hell

Because ending your sentence with a "good for you" obviously isn't an attack. No, that's not what you wrote.

You wrote that if someone is an ass to you, you'll be an ass to them. That's just childish. By doing this, you do nothing but stoop down to the person's level that has insulted you.

Modifié par estebanus, 12 août 2012 - 11:10 .


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Wow the reapers have you guys fighting eachother lol

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MaximizedAction wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BioWare will release a costume pack! =]

Yay! Hopefully I can have a Santa Claus armor set!


Posted Image

Mr. Sparkles is already all sparkly about what he might be getting...


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Hrothdane wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
*snip*
Wow, I don't know what to say. I hope it's true.

Great job... this kind of stuff is why we all keep coming in here.

Thanks. I was beginning to think no one read it. Posted Image It was pretty long though.


I read it, too! Well done.

Good catch on Hydra and the Rio clip in the Earth DLC trailer.

I also wanted to add that Hydra seems like an appropriate designation for a geth base. A beast with many heads for robots made of many programs.

Thanks! Also, yes Hydra is a good name for a geth base. There was one more piece of evidence for Rio being in SP too. The general layout of the map suggests a full frontal assault; your back is covered as you move up. In MP however, if you assume your back is covered you will be flanked and killed. In SP, as you clear areas, no more enemies are behind you, kind of like how FB London feels a bit strange for MP gameplay.
Note: One of the areas on the map is titled "Relay Station." Probably means nothing, but it is weird though huh?

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