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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Also TJ. Ships need fuel, and let's be honest, do you really think there is a fuel station, near the fleet at all. Hell we know the Reapers, we targeting the fuel plants, and we know that they were attacking the planets that are needed for the ships to have fuel. Also they have to have FTL on their ships, no. I can't remember if all ships have them, but if they don't then they are in deep trouble, unless they take of on the other ships, but don't forget you need parts to repair the ships, and once that is done, you need to amke sure, that you got supplys ready for fTL travel, becuase it's going to be awhile, before they arrive in a new system.

Also how long will it take, for the Normandy to reach Earth, and I don't think people will know were Shepard is because Shepard is in a place, where NO Organic has ever been to. So I dout they will find Shepard at all, or even find Shepard alive.

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Tom Hardy nailed it

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But I am being serious, there can bee no way on Earth, if they find Shepard att all, dead or alive, since not a single person ever looked out side their window an see the place where Shepard is at. Also if people have seen the place where Shepard is at, at the end, then why not go check it out. And out of all of the past thousand cycles, not a single one has ever been to the place where Shepard is at. At the end game.

So this means, that no one know where Shepard is, two Shepard is dead due to blood lose, and decaying, since it's a place where nobody has been to, and I doubt the first thing on everyones mind is to go find Shepard. Maybe for Shepard's friends yes, but everyone else no. Also How long did it take to repair the Normandy, and have the memorial scene, at the end. A few weeks I guess, but still they can't go find Shepard that fast/ know where Shepard is.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Priss Blackburne wrote...

http://www.newton.de...00/phy00800.htm


So there is a maximum falling speed. Okay, fair enough, I stand corrected on this one.

I still have a hard time believing anyone could survive a fall from that speed in real-life. Do you have a source to back it up?

edit: your also judging it off an atmosphere the same as earths. Different planets have different atmospheres.


Doesn't matter. Mars has a different atmosphere than earth and objects still burn when they enter the atmosphere.


You can't be this foolish can you? You do realize some planets don't have an atmosphere? Some planets/satellites gravity can struggle to keep you on the surface of said planet/satellite, you know such as Earth's satellite, the Moon..... There are so many different types of planets out there, don't be ignorant please.

Just because you don't know of a particular planet or satellite that exhibits these tendencies doesn't mean they don't exist. The ignorance coming from you sometimes is unreal.

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Venomous Snake, it took me all of one page to figure out Heretic Hanar. That one is dim.

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Oh and apparently Spoony decided to use An End Once and For All in the closing of his Ultima 9 finale.

Just a pointless little factoid for fans of TSE.

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What's up AD

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estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Ohai guise.

Been off the grid, got back from The Dark Knight Rises, and ofmgwtf. Loved is too weak a word to describe this movie for me.

Hi, Arian. How's it going? The only real thing I've noticed lately is that CoolioThane and I don't get along.

I haven't watched the movie yet. I guess you like it.

It was great! I watched it after watching the other 2 right before!

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CyberMiguel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Grasping at straws emergency induction ports: When I looked at the map order and realized that they are not in alphabetical order I was curious to know why there were in the order they are in (Rio, Vancouver, London). Then I realized what it spells when I used the first letter of each in order: RVL = Reveal. Posted Image

Not grasping at straws emergency induction ports: Voices. So I am fairly sure the Shadow infiltrator is voiced by engineer Daniels. You can really tell with certain lines. Weird right?

Next, the new VI drone in the escort mission is, as far as I can tell, voiced by engineer Adams in a pitched up Salarian voice. Remember he voiced Padok Wiks in a higher voice. I can't tell who voices the Destroyer or Paladin but I don't recognize them. If it was engineer Donnelly putting on a North American accent I think that would really be interesting. Why? IMO this points to post ending DLC involving the GX12-Chekhov's-gun. Maybe the Normandy is fighting in space and if you don't have the GX12 the three engies get vapourised! Posted ImageIt's a big "if" but I don't care.

The warning sign in Firebase Vancouver. You see it immediately after exiting the enormous ladder that it also a vent. Not just any warning sign either. The one used in SP Vancouver with the kid. The one (no longer) specific to that scene. Note it says "Warning: Code 89" on it. A Code 89 means a crime against nature = a reaper.

The existence of Firebase Rio: I'll start here by explaining why I think the map's existence is important. All of the MP maps are based off sections of the SP we've played on with the apparent exception of 2: Firebase Hydra and, now, Firebase Rio. But I don't think Hydra is somewhere we didn't go. Let me explain. As far as we can tell, (credit to BleedingUranium here) Firebase Hydra is most likely the cut beginning of the Geth consensus mission. I'll list the evidence I can think of off the top of my head for this:
- The map has Geth fighters on it; in effect it seems to be a fighter base.
- The map was released very soon after the base game; it would have already fully/partially existed.
- The map fits fairly well with the current mission. If you didn't notice on the map itself, there are Geth virtual reality pods in its control room, near an unused tram system.
- As you can see from the following vid at starting at about 1:40, the scene cuts quite abruptly from Shepard walking with his squad at the beginning of the mission (like always happens in missions right before taking control of Shepard) to the squad being inside. Shepard then pops out a heat sink. Why would you need to do that if you haven't fought anyone yet?
- There is no actual combat in this mission. I think the MP map area would have been it, but was cut most likely to either shorten the mission or, more likely, so as not to break the non-reality aspect of the mission.
Geth consensus mission:
So my point here is to simply emphasize that all MP maps, even Hydra, are based of SP locations. IMO this is clear evidence that points to a post ending DLC, seeing as they only way I can think of Rio being in SP is IT.

Rio: The map itself is quite interesting and unique, as it features a large as-of-yet unknown facility in the ocean. The whole area is heavily defended, and has the look of something quite important (some sort of research facility?) Close to the landing pad the N7 operatives land on, there is a gate (already open in MP) that says "Restricted Access" or something to that effect. This is the direction you would travel in the Rio SP mission. Following that path you will soon end up at the control-center looking thing in the middle of the map. This sparked my attention, and I immediately started looking for a ladder. Sure enough, go inside this and look up. There is a trap door in the ceiling. Looks like the ladder going through the trap door was cut in MP for obvious reasons. So the objective thus far would be to get inside the control center and activate the AA guns/drain the water/open the facility somehow. Not sure exactly how the mission would go after that, but whether this is an N7 facility or not, it is impressive that it has been this well defended up until the fleets' arrival. This would also most likely answer the question of how we would defeat the reapers if IT is true. Perhaps there is some sort of weapon there? Speculation for everyone.

Earth MP trailer:
Aside from being quite epic, the trailer is very interesting IMO. For starters, this trailer confirms the MP timeline. The fleets are just about to arrive. This fits with the IT reveal possibly fitting within the MP timeline. Anyway, at 0:23, it looks like instead of Shepard, Anderson, and the squad, they replaced their models with the MP characters. This on its own means nothing; it is reusing assets. What is interesting is at 0:27-0:30 and at 0:38 especially it also looks like reused assets. But from where? There is no Rio SP mission. (Or is there?Posted Image) Let's look into 0:38-0:43 more closely. Assuming this is SP with the models replaced with MP characters, it would most likely be Shepard (judging from the looking-around animation and the camera emphasis on the destroyer-soldier, I would assume this is the replacement for Shepard's model), 2 squadmates and Anderson(?) having already dealt with Coats in London.Posted ImageFurther evidence for this is the lack of Cobras on their backs. IMO the trailer screamed "This isn't over yet!" Anderson's "Until the fleets return" line seemed to me that we have to hold out until "the fleets" arrive, metaphorically. Also, I heard that Anderson's trailer speech is, for the most part, in the EC files. Why they would be there is a mystery to me, as I can't even think of an IT reason for it. If you can, please post it.

So yeah, there you go. Some things to think about! Posted Image

That was my post, but I've thought of a couple of other things since then. Like the facility building a mass relay, and what we were just talking about with code 990.

Edit: Fixed the top.


Rio firebase has a very simple explanation: N7 training facilites are located in Rio de Janeiro, so it's nothing special about it....except for the "restricted area" within the N7 training facilities (which could be a facade for something bigger). 

For the rest of your post....this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW6i3m8Cfb4 

Those are VERY interesting facts(?) you got there.  If Gamble said that IT is still a valid interpretation, well... let's not get into conclussions too early, but there's definetly more to come... and not necesarily pre-ending stuff, I think.

Actually, I believe it was confirmed not to be an N7 facility. Which actually makes it more interesting! Posted Image

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Venomous Snake wrote...
You can't be this foolish can you? You do realize some planets don't have an atmosphere? Some planets/satellites gravity can struggle to keep you on the surface of said planet/satellite, you know such as Earth's satellite, the Moon..... There are so many different types of planets out there, don't be ignorant please.

Just because you don't know of a particular planet or satellite that exhibits these tendencies doesn't mean they don't exist. The ignorance coming from you sometimes is unreal.

+Infinity

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I is back from lurkerdom. Now, bow before your stalker king.

On a more serious note, how are the speculations going? I've seen mentions of Earth DLC conspiracy and The Dark Knight Rises (epic frakin' movie btw).

In relation to the former, I see some very interesting evidence. Now I'm curious about this "restricted area". I always assumed it was there just for a boundary excuse.

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so anyone speculated as to why they would extract a helium 3 magnate in operation overwatch?

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I hadn't watched the ending since the EC released. Wanted to watch it again without searching for IT clues.

With that viewpoint in mine, here's what stood out the most:

1.Anderson beating Shepard to the control panel and also not notifying anyone by radio he had made it is will ridiculous. How come only Anderson makes it? where's the team he made his run with? Did Harbinger kill all but one person that time too? Anyone arguing he made the run with Shepard, how did he not see Shepard and help him up? Again, completely ridiculous.


2. Leviathan may provide some clarity here, but did the race who created starchild live so long that they could "know" that synthetics vs organics is truly "inevitable?"


3. TIM, in a relative blink of an eye, manged to improve Reaper technology to be able to physically control someone when in close proximity without mental degradation occurring? Really? But the Reapers couldn't over millions of years?

4. Oh Starchild, you're still so full of ****. Just across the board full of it

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

so anyone speculated as to why they would extract a helium 3 magnate in operation overwatch?


Well, He3 is the main fuel source in ME, so I'd imagine extracting some important dude with access to it would be helpful...

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I hadn't watched the ending since the EC released. Wanted to watch it again without searching for IT clues.

With that viewpoint in mine, here's what stood out the most:

1.Anderson beating Shepard to the control panel and also not notifying anyone by radio he had made it is will ridiculous. How come only Anderson makes it? where's the team he made his run with? Did Harbinger kill all but one person that time too? Anyone arguing he made the run with Shepard, how did he not see Shepard and help him up? Again, completely ridiculous.


2. Leviathan may provide some clarity here, but did the race who created starchild live so long that they could "know" that synthetics vs organics is truly "inevitable?"


3. TIM, in a relative blink of an eye, manged to improve Reaper technology to be able to physically control someone when in close proximity without mental degradation occurring? Really? But the Reapers couldn't over millions of years?

4. Oh Starchild, you're still so full of ****. Just across the board full of it

This is actually an impossibility. The only way to know if something is inevitable, is to live forever, which you obviously can't do.

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*goes to bed*

That is all.

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BlazingZephyr wrote...

*goes to bed*

That is all.

Follows suit. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage

That's why I put it in quotations. Clearly it's absurd

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spotlessvoid wrote...

BansheeOwnage

That's why I put it in quotations. Clearly it's absurd


For them to know it they would have had to seen it them selves meaning they weren't created for the purpose of solving the problem they created for...

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Not that I would read too much into video game information on IMBD, but they added Keith Szarabajka to the ME3 voice cast as additional voices? I don't remember him being there earlier. It also looks like they have added the Leviathan's voice.

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Ugh...dammit. I tried posting pictures but they turned into a giant wall of code as soon as I submitted : /

Modifié par Hrothdane, 13 août 2012 - 08:52 .


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Hrothdane wrote...

Ugh...dammit. I tried posting pictures but they turned into a giant wall of code as soon as I submitted : /


You need a URL to put pics in your post.
So if it's on your computer, upload them on a website, copy the link of the pic and go in the "BBCode" mode.
Then you write the BBCode as described here: http://www.bbcode.org/examples/?id=10.
That's how it works.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 août 2012 - 09:10 .


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I just go into the standard reply forum, then copy the picture (right click the picture) then paste it in the reply form and it just pops up.

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Ok thanks. I'll see if either of those suggestions work.

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I dislike the wysiwyg editor, the resulting code is just messy and often the post itself isn't well formatted (like when copying other posts)

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 13 août 2012 - 09:19 .