MegumiAzusa wrote...
I dislike the wysiwyg editor, the resulting code is just messy and often the post itself isn't well formatted (like when copying other posts)
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 août 2012 - 09:23 .
Modifié par Hrothdane, 13 août 2012 - 09:44 .
Hrothdane wrote...
Let's see if this works this time
I was playing ME2 again while keeping an eye out for IT-related things. I found some evidence that relates to the whole 1M1 thing.
The crashed geth ship in Overlord (doors added by Cerberus)
A box inside the derelict Reaper (brought by Cerberus)
The Reaper IFF room (presumably constructed by Cerberus)
The Normandy SR-2 (you get the idea)
First thing I noticed is that all of these text and number sequences are reversible and/or inversible. Considering how often assets get reused, I'll attribute that trait to savvy design staff at Bioware. Second thing I noticed is that all of these objects are related to Cerberus. The designs are also aesthetically consistent with the 1M1 assets (which I may note have Cerberus colors).
Furthermore, Cerberus would almost certainly use human contractors and companies to provide materials for such clandestine operations as Overlord, excavating the derelict Reaper, and rebuilding the Normandy. The Illusive Man was able to learn about turian technology via their collaboration on the Normandy SR-1, so he would be cautious about giving other races the same opportunity.
This leads to the question: why does a portion of the Citadel which no one has ever seen before have human-built components? Keepers salvage things all the time to repair the Citadel, but the 1M1 struts are huge, fully-intact, and look completely brand new. Once we take the IT into consideration, we can see these design elements as something incorporated into the hallucination by Shepard's mind.
Obviously, these findings won't revolutionize the IT or convince new people to listen to us, but they do offer some interesting speculation and something else to throw on the mountain of circumstantial evidence.
Modifié par Epök, 13 août 2012 - 09:55 .
I suspect more a plane shift. This would also make much more sense with the "wake up". Would also fit Nazara's "There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own, you cannot even imagine it."Hrothdane wrote...
Let's see if this works this time
I was playing ME2 again while keeping an eye out for IT-related things. I found some evidence that relates to the whole 1M1 thing.
The crashed geth ship in Overlord (doors added by Cerberus)
A box inside the derelict Reaper (brought by Cerberus)
The Reaper IFF room (presumably constructed by Cerberus)
The Normandy SR-2 (you get the idea)
First thing I noticed is that all of these text and number sequences are reversible and/or inversible. Considering how often assets get reused, I'll attribute that trait to savvy design staff at Bioware. Second thing I noticed is that all of these objects are related to Cerberus. The designs are also aesthetically consistent with the 1M1 assets (which I may note have Cerberus colors).
Furthermore, Cerberus would almost certainly use human contractors and companies to provide materials for such clandestine operations as Overlord, excavating the derelict Reaper, and rebuilding the Normandy. The Illusive Man was able to learn about turian technology via their collaboration on the Normandy SR-1, so he would be cautious about giving other races the same opportunity.
This leads to the question: why does a portion of the Citadel which no one has ever seen before have human-built components? Keepers salvage things all the time to repair the Citadel, but the 1M1 struts are huge, fully-intact, and look completely brand new. Once we take the IT into consideration, we can see these design elements as something incorporated into the hallucination by Shepard's mind.
Obviously, these findings won't revolutionize the IT or convince new people to listen to us, but they do offer some interesting speculation and something else to throw on the mountain of circumstantial evidence.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 13 août 2012 - 09:57 .
Hrothdane wrote...
*snip*
Obviously, these findings won't revolutionize the IT or convince new people to listen to us, but they do offer some interesting speculation and something else to throw on the mountain of circumstantial evidence.
What's the deal with that, anyway? If the last part of the game was supposed to be on the Cerberus base...then what kind of an ending to ME3, the game that centers the Reaper invasion, would that have been?Epök wrote...
If you read "The final hours of ME3", they say that the last part of the game (right after the beam until TIM's death) was supposed to be on the Cerberus base. So the hallway with the bodies on the floor was here to show how Cerberus uplifted humans, the next part were elements from the Shadow Broker ship (When Liara left, she set up a trap and sent a shuttle on the ship but Cerberus managed to recover some pieces of it. Pretty much what they did with the Human Reaper), the antennas and finally the Console room which looks like TIM's office.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 août 2012 - 10:09 .
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 13 août 2012 - 10:47 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Also:
Dat Reaper sounds from Javik http://www.youtube.c...1id-kKw#t=5m54s
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 août 2012 - 11:10 .
It's funny as I stumbled on the video by chance while waiting for my LP part 8 to encode ^^MaximizedAction wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Also:
Dat Reaper sounds from Javik http://www.youtube.c...1id-kKw#t=5m54s
(I'll just assume this is intended, as ME3 proved to be very thought through sound effects-wise)
It could, once again, mean that it's either due to both having the Reapers on their minds or both having Reapers actually IN their minds. If so, then who does it tell something about during this mind-melt?
MegumiAzusa wrote...
It's funny as I stumbled on the video by chance while waiting for my LP part 8 to encode ^^MaximizedAction wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Also:
Dat Reaper sounds from Javik http://www.youtube.c...1id-kKw#t=5m54s
(I'll just assume this is intended, as ME3 proved to be very thought through sound effects-wise)
It could, once again, mean that it's either due to both having the Reapers on their minds or both having Reapers actually IN their minds. If so, then who does it tell something about during this mind-melt?
What is interesting is that I can't remember hearing some for my playthroughs. Also some other comments Javik says. The Shep who recorded this either saved the Collector base or played quite a bit before rescuing Javik, though I would suspect the former.
fyi These are sounds which also occur in the dreams and their name contains the word Reaper.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Doesn't sound like a reaper to me.
Also, I never heard that sound in my own playthrough, even though I'm almost 100% Renegade and saved the Collector base.
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 13 août 2012 - 11:35 .
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Doesn't sound like a reaper to me.
Also, I never heard that sound in my own playthrough, even though I'm almost 100% Renegade and saved the Collector base.
Modifié par LtBehemoth, 13 août 2012 - 11:38 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
fyi These are sounds which also occur in the dreams and their name contains the word Reaper.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Doesn't sound like a reaper to me.
Also, I never heard that sound in my own playthrough, even though I'm almost 100% Renegade and saved the Collector base.
LtBehemoth wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Doesn't sound like a reaper to me.
Also, I never heard that sound in my own playthrough, even though I'm almost 100% Renegade and saved the Collector base.
Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 13 août 2012 - 11:48 .
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
It's not that hard to see the red line here.
Found it.
Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 13 août 2012 - 12:45 .
As a matter of fact, this doesn't come after The beginning. Javik says this line much later in the game, after you lose Thessia.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
LtBehemoth wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Doesn't sound like a reaper to me.
Also, I never heard that sound in my own playthrough, even though I'm almost 100% Renegade and saved the Collector base.
It's not the same sound.
Edit: nevermind, I hear the 2nd sound in the Javik thingy is the same as that one.
But notice how Javik says: "I sense that you are angry, there is loss..." At the same time we hear the sound of the reaper that killed the little vent kid. What is Shepard angry about? The death of the vent kid.
We don't just hear a reaper sound, we hear that very specific reaper sound from the reaper that killed the kid.
"I sense anger" = Shepard being angry, because: "there is loss" = vent kid killed by reaper, therefor we hear noise from the reaper that killed vent kid.
It's not that hard to see the red line here.
estebanus wrote...
As a matter of fact, this doesn't come after The beginning. Javik says this line much later in the game, after you lose Thessia.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
LtBehemoth wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Doesn't sound like a reaper to me.
Also, I never heard that sound in my own playthrough, even though I'm almost 100% Renegade and saved the Collector base.
It's not the same sound.
Edit: nevermind, I hear the 2nd sound in the Javik thingy is the same as that one.
But notice how Javik says: "I sense that you are angry, there is loss..." At the same time we hear the sound of the reaper that killed the little vent kid. What is Shepard angry about? The death of the vent kid.
We don't just hear a reaper sound, we hear that very specific reaper sound from the reaper that killed the kid.
"I sense anger" = Shepard being angry, because: "there is loss" = vent kid killed by reaper, therefor we hear noise from the reaper that killed vent kid.
It's not that hard to see the red line here.
Exactly. If you pick him up right after the beginning, he talks about sensing anxiety and distress in you. If you pick him up in the middle of the game (Either after Tuchanka or Rannoch, that is), he will comment on how he senses hope about you. However after Thessia, he will say that what you just heard in the youtube video.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
You mean he doesn't say this when you recover Javik right after the beginning? He only says this if you recover him after Thessia?
Modifié par estebanus, 13 août 2012 - 01:29 .
estebanus wrote...
Exactly. If you pick him up right after the beginning, he talks about sensing anxiety and distress in you. If you pick him up in the middle of the game (Either after Tuchanka or Rannoch, that is), he will comment on how he senses hope about you. However after Thessia, he will say that what you just heard in the youtube video.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
You mean he doesn't say this when you recover Javik right after the beginning? He only says this if you recover him after Thessia?
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