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J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

EDIT NR 2: Dafuq did I just write

Modifié par estebanus, 13 août 2012 - 08:45 .


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Its not about forcing it, its about the fact that ME2 Legion said the majority of the Geth didnt follow Sovereign because they didnt want to just accept the Reapers' solution, they wanted to find their own way.

In ME3, Legion accepts the Reaper code instead of having the geth find their own way to sentience.

I know this isn't exactly what you were referring to, but it's indirectly related. It has to do with survival. Remember he said because so many Geth were dying, their collective intelligence dimmed, and their "primal instincts" or their "will to live" took over. He didn't seem like he really agreed with it too much, it was an act of desperation. The Geth wouldn't face this problem at the endgame.

As for what you were referring to, I don't know (yet!). But achieving sentience seems fairly useful especially when you need to fight the reapers.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snip*
- Hrothdane Posted Image


Awesome analysis Hrothdane! Isolation definitely simplifies persuation.

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estebanus wrote...

J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay former lurker welcome to the community. If you know other lurkers. Please tell them to come out of the shadows and help out IT more, than just praying foe the best, for IT.

MB, seriously, lurkers don't have their own subcommunity here. They, by definition, don't interact with others on this thread and therefore don't know any other lurkers.Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

Fine. Posted Image

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

You haven't seen the half of it! Just wait until our pie convos start!

Mmmmhhh...Pie... :P

Modifié par estebanus, 13 août 2012 - 07:17 .


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estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

You haven't seen the half of it! Just wait until our pie covos start!

Mmmmhhh...Pie... :P

Uhhh....so...tempting! Said I would stop. Can't resist...much longer!

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masster blaster wrote...

FFzero, whay about Thessia, I thought that there was Concrete on Thessia too. I guess not. But my point exactly no way Shepard can be on the Ctiadel. And if Shepard is how the hell is anyone going to find Shepard.

Nobody knows where Shepard is at, and if they don't Shepard will die of blood lose, and decay over time. Also I don't think anyone would bother to look where Shepard is at because if no Organic has ever been to the Catalyst chambers, well excepte Shepard. Why would anyone look there.

If nobody in this cycle ever found that place, and that goes for the past hundred or so cycles, then I doubt that they would find Shepard at all.

So it's either bad writing, or IT.

I pick IT.


Some people see bad writting. I see writting clever enough to trick players into forgetting everything they fought to accomplish at the last minute. 

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

J the Speculator wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! So are any of you guys looking foreward to Clevernoob's EC IT documentary?

I'm not really looking that much forward to it. I don't think it's that good, to be honest.

EDIT: I'm on top this time, Banshee!

Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

You haven't seen the half of it! Just wait until our pie covos start!

Mmmmhhh...Pie... :P

Uhhh....so...tempting! Said I would stop. Can't resist...much longer!

I'm gonna eat it all up!

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

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ME3 Legion never even hesitated to make the ultimate sacrifice. No doubt for me there.


ME3 Legion had the choice of letting the geth get wiped out or installing Reaper code into all the geth.

He chose to use Reaper tech.

Thats why I'm not so sure about him.

I think the endgame situation is much different. Legion is Geth, so there isn't really a moral issue with forcing the upgrades on them because it isn't really forced. The endgame situation is forcing it on everyone, and I doubt Legion would trust the catalyst. He is rather intelligent, and would point out the many flaws in the kid's reasoning. There are more reasons than that.


Its not about forcing it, its about the fact that ME2 Legion said the majority of the Geth didnt follow Sovereign because they didnt want to just accept the Reapers' solution, they wanted to find their own way.

In ME3, Legion accepts the Reaper code instead of having the geth find their own way to sentience.

Well one could argue that because of the war, you have to make an emergency decision to use the Reaper code or be either detroyed by the Quarians or, even if they stopped killing them, simply being hacked by the Reapers again.  the Code could possibly give them the means to preventing this while also making them capable of fighting the Reapers.  Imo Legion wanted to fight the Reapers, and it wanted to protect its people as well.  Using the Reaper code may have been a means to fight the Reapers. 

Then again Legion also said that he found the Reaper's improvements "beautiful." So perhaps it didn't think true intelligence without a network was possible until now, hence why they were building a megastructure for all Geth until the Quarians almost completely destroyed it.  Perhaps Legion just saw this as "new data."

just speculations on my part...now to see if anyone actually responds. Posted Image

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Estebanus, and Banshee, if you love pie so much, why not look for the family  t guy episode, when they are singing " It's a wonderful day for pie." I know I like pie.

Also any more news Max on the tweets about ME, Bioware related stuff yet?.

Modifié par masster blaster, 13 août 2012 - 07:26 .


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Estebanus, and Banshee, if you love pie so muc, when not look for the familt guy episode, when they are singing " It's a wonderful day for pie." I know I like pie.

Also any more news Max on the tweets about ME, Bioware related stuff yet?.

"Road to the multiverse?" Yeah, I know that episode. It's awesome!

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

You haven't seen the half of it! Just wait until our pie covos start!

Mmmmhhh...Pie... :P

Uhhh....so...tempting! Said I would stop. Can't resist...much longer!

I'm gonna eat it all up!

No. Wait...for me. Can't eat it all...without me.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Fine, I suppose I've been on top the last few times. I guess you had it coming. Posted Image


Stop flirting, you two! ;)

You haven't seen the half of it! Just wait until our pie covos start!

Mmmmhhh...Pie... :P

Uhhh....so...tempting! Said I would stop. Can't resist...much longer!

I'm gonna eat it all up!

No. Wait...for me. Can't eat it all...without me.

*munch*...*munch*...*munch*... Hurry up, or there'll be none left!

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masster blaster wrote...

Estebanus, and Banshee, if you love pie so muc, when not look for the familt guy episode, when they are singing " It's a wonderful day for pie." I know I like pie.

Also any more news Max on the tweets about ME, Bioware related stuff yet?.


Radio silence on the speculation channel.
Although, this one is quite funny, given what Bioware devs said shortly before release about the features of ME3:

twitter.com/manveerheir/status/235087957739044864
"Game developer pro-tip: treat dealing with the press like dealing with the police. Anything you say can and will be used against you"

They know what they did.


@OT: All that pie talk...it takes my mind to strange places.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 août 2012 - 07:29 .


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Arashi08 wrote...

Well one could argue that because of the war, you have to make an emergency decision to use the Reaper code or be either detroyed by the Quarians or, even if they stopped killing them, simply being hacked by the Reapers again.  the Code could possibly give them the means to preventing this while also making them capable of fighting the Reapers.  Imo Legion wanted to fight the Reapers, and it wanted to protect its people as well.  Using the Reaper code may have been a means to fight the Reapers. 

Then again Legion also said that he found the Reaper's improvements "beautiful." So perhaps it didn't think true intelligence without a network was possible until now, hence why they were building a megastructure for all Geth until the Quarians almost completely destroyed it.  Perhaps Legion just saw this as "new data."

just speculations on my part...now to see if anyone actually responds. Posted Image

A lot like what I said. I forgot to mention that the reaper code allowed them not to be hacked by the reapers anymore, as well as allowing them to beat all heretic Geth, amongst other things. So thanks. Posted Image

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@OT: All that pie talk...it takes my mind to strange places.

What kinda places?:P

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Ya I think so to GethPrime, also how is the google for IT going? Also no news yet on Leviathan.

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masster blaster wrote...

Estebanus, and Banshee, if you love pie so muc, when not look for the familt guy episode, when they are singing " It's a wonderful day for pie." I know I like pie.

Also any more news Max on the tweets about ME, Bioware related stuff yet?.


Radio silence on the speculation channel.
Although, this one is quite funny, given what Bioware devs said shortly before release about the features of ME3:

twitter.com/manveerheir/status/235087957739044864
"Game developer pro-tip: treat dealing with the press like dealing with the police. Anything you say can and will be used against you"

They know what they did.


@OT: All that pie talk...it takes my mind to strange places.

Now that's bloody interesting! (No, I'm not british) Seriously though, they must have known what blatantly lying would do! No ABC endings (that description was made by them not an interviewer), heavy rachni importance,  etc.

I'll take this time to remind everyone that Mike Gamble wants to tell emotionally engaging stories before during and after ME3! (Also note he was not prompted to say after, he just chose to.)

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 13 août 2012 - 07:35 .


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estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

@OT: All that pie talk...it takes my mind to strange places.

What kinda places?:P

Oh definitely the best kind of places!Posted Image Anyway, I'm gonna go eat now, as it happens.Posted Image Have fun, I'll see you later.Posted Image

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I wonder what our punishment, will be since failed the operation big time. Any thoughts?

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estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

@OT: All that pie talk...it takes my mind to strange places.

What kinda places?:P


One where I'd have expected more pastries.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

@OT: All that pie talk...it takes my mind to strange places.

What kinda places?:P

Oh definitely the best kind of places!Posted Image Anyway, I'm gonna go eat now, as it happens.Posted Image Have fun, I'll see you later.Posted Image

Count on it!