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So you think Leviathan will come out next week?

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MB - I know the question wasn't for me but I'll answer it. It should be out within the next 2 weeks. Cause on the 28th the full trailer will be out and the 28th will be a Tuesday. If not released within the next 2 weeks it's a certain fact the announcement would be on the 28th.

edit - Oh I thought you were talking to someone named Zo. Oops. 

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Demersel

A poster on this very page once very politely suggested I discontinue stooping to level of the trolls in the rampant flame wars in the original thread. Although I failed to immediately heed his words of wisdom, I since have taken them to heart. I think his message clearly applies to this situation. Yes, many users vehemently discourage any IT related speculation. Yes, many make huge generalizations, passing them off as undisputed fact. You don't have to be like them. This is the IT thread. We're ALL about open, honest discourse and rigorous self analysis (mostly)


I'm sorry, did you just very politely called me a troll? 

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popping back in for a short time, i was replaying ME3 last night and i noticed that on Thessia, Vendetta is explaining how his program will upload into the crucible to help coordinate with the Catalyst when Kai Leng shows up and Vendetta shuts down. but on Cronos Station, Vendetta makes no such remark and we never hear anything about him again. anybody else notice this or am I overreacting?

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jgibson14352 wrote...

popping back in for a short time, i was replaying ME3 last night and i noticed that on Thessia, Vendetta is explaining how his program will upload into the crucible to help coordinate with the Catalyst when Kai Leng shows up and Vendetta shuts down. but on Cronos Station, Vendetta makes no such remark and we never hear anything about him again. anybody else notice this or am I overreacting?


I was wondering about that, but what i like on Cronos Station was that Vendetta was trying to tell Shepard something else because if you have the EC, then Vendetta telling Shepard what he/she want's to know, but you can hear Vendetta speaking jibberish, in the back ground.

edit; I wonder if this was do to the hacking, or since his proticals were overwriten, maybe TIM gave vendetta a false programing, and that's why TIM says " In joy your little chat." But to me ot looks like he had a smirk on his face, after he said that to Shepard.

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masster blaster wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

popping back in for a short time, i was replaying ME3 last night and i noticed that on Thessia, Vendetta is explaining how his program will upload into the crucible to help coordinate with the Catalyst when Kai Leng shows up and Vendetta shuts down. but on Cronos Station, Vendetta makes no such remark and we never hear anything about him again. anybody else notice this or am I overreacting?


I was wondering about that, but what i like on Cronos Station was that Vendetta was trying to tell Shepard something else because if you have the EC, then Vendetta telling Shepard what he/she want's to know, but you can hear Vendetta speaking jibberish, in the back ground.


It's a shame really that EC is sort of mandatory (i mean, once you have it - it aouteinstalls and there is no way to turn it off. It also seems it has some files for the leviathan, so I really wander wether leviathan will work without the EC.

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No

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

popping back in for a short time, i was replaying ME3 last night and i noticed that on Thessia, Vendetta is explaining how his program will upload into the crucible to help coordinate with the Catalyst when Kai Leng shows up and Vendetta shuts down. but on Cronos Station, Vendetta makes no such remark and we never hear anything about him again. anybody else notice this or am I overreacting?


I was wondering about that, but what i like on Cronos Station was that Vendetta was trying to tell Shepard something else because if you have the EC, then Vendetta telling Shepard what he/she want's to know, but you can hear Vendetta speaking jibberish, in the back ground.


It's a shame really that EC is sort of mandatory (i mean, once you have it - it aouteinstalls and there is no way to turn it off. It also seems it has some files for the leviathan, so I really wander wether leviathan will work without the EC.


Or the Earth dlc, and the weapons back too. They have the scripts for leviathan, and other dlc scripts too.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

MB - I know the question wasn't for me but I'll answer it. It should be out within the next 2 weeks. Cause on the 28th the full trailer will be out and the 28th will be a Tuesday. If not released within the next 2 weeks it's a certain fact the announcement would be on the 28th.

edit - Oh I thought you were talking to someone named Zo. Oops. 


Indeed and Bioware has been known to release content on the same day they air the launch trailer

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jgibson14352 wrote...

popping back in for a short time, i was replaying ME3 last night and i noticed that on Thessia, Vendetta is explaining how his program will upload into the crucible to help coordinate with the Catalyst when Kai Leng shows up and Vendetta shuts down. but on Cronos Station, Vendetta makes no such remark and we never hear anything about him again. anybody else notice this or am I overreacting?

Nope, my first thought the first time I played the game even before I suspected indoctrination, was "Cerberus has tampered with the VI".
It does seem very odd that:

1-The reapers are getting ready for something big long before this point (almost certainly the harvest of the human race to create a reaper, which is almost certainly what they want shepard's mind for).

2-Vendetta seemingly changes tack completely between the two occasions.

3-The Illusive man clearly wants you to get the prothean VI - after all Kai Leng is waiting for you and it would have been trivial for TIM to take the VI off the station.

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TJBartlemus wrote...
 
Cause on the 28th the full trailer will be out and the 28th will be a Tuesday. If not released within the next 2 weeks it's a certain fact the announcement would be on the 28th.


1 - How do you know, that on 28th the full trailer will be out?
2 - What announcment? They already announced the DLC on EA summer showcase, And they said it's coming summer. It's either today, or next week, or 28th. 

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demersel wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
 
Cause on the 28th the full trailer will be out and the 28th will be a Tuesday. If not released within the next 2 weeks it's a certain fact the announcement would be on the 28th.


1 - How do you know, that on 28th the full trailer will be out?
2 - What announcment? They already announced the DLC on EA summer showcase, And they said it's coming summer. It's either today, or next week, or 28th. 



...or the 4th, or the 11th, or the 18th

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demersel wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
 
Cause on the 28th the full trailer will be out and the 28th will be a Tuesday. If not released within the next 2 weeks it's a certain fact the announcement would be on the 28th.


1 - How do you know, that on 28th the full trailer will be out?
2 - What announcment? They already announced the DLC on EA summer showcase, And they said it's coming summer. It's either today, or next week, or 28th. 


Summer ends the third week of September. If they were certain it would be August, they would have said "August" rather than 'Summer" with the initial announcement. At any rate, someone posted an interview earlier in the thread of the people working on the trailer and they said it would drop on the 28th. We'll know soon enough.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 14 août 2012 - 08:37 .


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okay people need to understand that IT is not a new ending, more like a breaking the Indoctrination attept that Harbinger is pulling on Shepard at the end game. people really need to understand IT, and not say it would be a terrible end for the game. IT will open new possibility to end ME3, but it's up to Bioware to do so. And maybe we can see Shepard help rebuild the galaxy, and get to livein peace with his/her LI forever.

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Curious. I just logged in and received a victory pack (No commendation pack yet). Either that's an error or we somehow managed to win the challenge. Given the numbers on Sunday, that doesn't make sense. Not to mention handing out packs before the operation outcome has even been announced. Something's up.

Edit: It appears other people are also reporting receiving victory packs.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 14 août 2012 - 08:43 .


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okay i am going to go play some ME3, and see what i find in the camping, and play some Mp while I am at it.

Also before I go, any news on the operation yet?

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

Summer ends the third week of September. If they were certain it would be August, they would have said "August" rather than 'Summer" with the initial announcement. At any rate, someone posted an interview earlier in the thread of the people working on the trailer and they said it would drop on the 28th. We'll know soon enough.



"Summer" ends the third week of September?? Whoa....?? 

Seriosly? How come?   (no sarcasm, wasn't aware, that in america it is this way, although i heard that in schools classes start at the end of September... Which is weird.  Didn't think that in america September considered summer....mind blown)

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TSA_383 wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

popping back in for a short time, i was replaying ME3 last night and i noticed that on Thessia, Vendetta is explaining how his program will upload into the crucible to help coordinate with the Catalyst when Kai Leng shows up and Vendetta shuts down. but on Cronos Station, Vendetta makes no such remark and we never hear anything about him again. anybody else notice this or am I overreacting?

Nope, my first thought the first time I played the game even before I suspected indoctrination, was "Cerberus has tampered with the VI".
It does seem very odd that:

1-The reapers are getting ready for something big long before this point (almost certainly the harvest of the human race to create a reaper, which is almost certainly what they want shepard's mind for).

2-Vendetta seemingly changes tack completely between the two occasions.

3-The Illusive man clearly wants you to get the prothean VI - after all Kai Leng is waiting for you and it would have been trivial for TIM to take the VI off the station.


Sorry to butt in, De-lurking for a moment.

Yes I noticed this too. I also noticed Vendetta's line "Security protocols deactivated. I will comply". I wonder if this is meant to imply that he wouldn't comply if his protocols were still active? Perhaps because he senses Shepard's indoctrination has progressed?

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demersel wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Summer ends the third week of September. If they were certain it would be August, they would have said "August" rather than 'Summer" with the initial announcement. At any rate, someone posted an interview earlier in the thread of the people working on the trailer and they said it would drop on the 28th. We'll know soon enough.



"Summer" ends the third week of September?? Whoa....?? 

Seriosly? How come?   (no sarcasm, wasn't aware, that in america it is this way, although i heard that in schools classes start at the end of September... Which is weird.  Didn't think that in america September considered summer....mind blown)


Yes it's because September 22nd is the Autumn equinox when day and night are equal length. That's the "official" start of autumn in the northern hemisphere.

Modifié par Eryri, 14 août 2012 - 08:54 .


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Big_Boss9 wrote...

Curious. I just logged in and received a victory pack (No commendation pack yet). Either that's an error or we somehow managed to win the challenge. Given the numbers on Sunday, that doesn't make sense. Not to mention handing out packs before the operation outcome has even been announced. Something's up.

Edit: It appears other people are also reporting receiving victory packs.


I am confused now:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13674591/4#13675054

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Curious. I just logged in and received a victory pack (No commendation pack yet). Either that's an error or we somehow managed to win the challenge. Given the numbers on Sunday, that doesn't make sense. Not to mention handing out packs before the operation outcome has even been announced. Something's up.

Edit: It appears other people are also reporting receiving victory packs.


I am confused now:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13674591/4#13675054


I got a Victory pack too. Wtf is going on here?

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I got a Victory pack too. Wtf is going on here?


Someone must've gotten something wrong. Maybe they gave out the false packs...how convenient for an operation that was the first ot get (sorta) live progress update.

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masster blaster wrote...
I got a Victory pack too. Wtf is going on here?


Someone must've gotten something wrong. Maybe they gave out the false packs...how convenient for an operation that was the first ot get (sorta) live progress update.


Wait it's a victory because the Anderson got to london, and the resistance has arrived in london. even though we failed, it was not in vain.



"Increased Reaper activity has been reported around London. Operation
OLYMPUS will focus large-scale strikes on the Reapers to buy the
Resistance time to investigate."

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We won the event, it was just posted.

I don't see how this is possible seeing how low we had by sunday. Is is possible that they skewed the numbers to make it seem like the MP community hasn't dropped off the face of the earth? Or is the memory from the reaper actually misinformation to ensure an alliance loss.

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From: Admiral Steven Hackett
Re: Operation OLYMPUS
Confidentiality classification: XB-PRIME
Distribution: N7 Forces Only
Soldiers of the Milky Way –

I am pleased to report that Operation OLYMPUS has netted us extremely valuable intel. With N7 troops engaging the enemy, the Resistance was able to lure a Reaper destroyer into a kill zone and bring it down. They were able to retrieve portions of its memory databases before withdrawing from the battlefield.

While we do not yet know what this new data will reveal, rest assured it will be put to good use. I don’t need to tell you that logs from a Reaper’s memory could prove invaluable. If we can decipher when and why it received the orders it did, we can start to predict their battle strategies, and that improves our chances both on Earth and throughout the galaxy.

The geth viewed the Reapers as gods, creatures beyond our understanding. We know that’s not true. We may not have knocked them off their pedestal today, but we have come one step closer to seeing them fall.

-- Admiral Hackett

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