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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Allied Goal: Using any Kit/ Map combination against any enemy, complete wave 10 on a combined community total of 200,000 Bronze missions, 175,000 Silver missions and 70,000 Gold missions.


Quite the amazing rally guys!

Bronze total: 253,408
Silver total: 206,386
Gold total: 89,198


How the hell did this happen?

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Big Boss post the update that Chris had on Sunday will you please.

I can't believe people are believeing that they won it without questioning, on how the hell did we pull it of.

Modifié par masster blaster, 14 août 2012 - 09:18 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Allied Goal: Using any Kit/ Map combination against any enemy, complete wave 10 on a combined community total of 200,000 Bronze missions, 175,000 Silver missions and 70,000 Gold missions.


Quite the amazing rally guys!

Bronze total: 253,408
Silver total: 206,386
Gold total: 89,198


How the hell did this happen?

I don't think we did.

Bioware is making it look like MP hasn't fallen off the face of the earth because they want old and new players to come back. But this isn't the most important part.

The mission last week took 200k games to beat. Bioware usually gives us missions that we don't blow out. This mission needed a total of 445K GAMES to wave 10, this is AT LEAST double the effort, and we won? Bull. Don't get me wrong, I have faith in the community, but this is just so improbable that it is almost as bad as the literal endings, or is it?

We collected information off a REAPER. What have we been speculating here? That the reapers have been feeding us misinformation all alone. Well this fits, no? We have been TRICKED into thinking that we won. This OP was near impossible but we were allowed to win. This "information" that we get off this reaper I predict to be false. This info will have the reaper's plans and the function of the beam. Does anything really go according to plan in the SP? 

You've heard it here folks, we've been duped.

No, I am not entirely sure of this, but I've got a really nagging gut feeling about this.

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The geth viewed the Reapers as gods.


Bullsh*t!

Legion tells Shepard otherwise and humans seem to be ignorant in that matter. Oh how incredibly evil these synthetics are, surely they will be the ones to eventually turn on organics. <_<

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MaximizedAction wrote...

The geth viewed the Reapers as gods.


Bullsh*t!

Legion tells Shepard otherwise and humans seem to be ignorant in that matter. Oh how incredibly evil these synthetics are, surely they will be the ones to eventually turn on organics. <_<

Hackett is indoctrinated. Maybe intoxicated.

Edit: This was only released to N7 forces...

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 14 août 2012 - 09:25 .


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Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Allied Goal: Using any Kit/ Map combination against any enemy, complete wave 10 on a combined community total of 200,000 Bronze missions, 175,000 Silver missions and 70,000 Gold missions.


Quite the amazing rally guys!

Bronze total: 253,408
Silver total: 206,386
Gold total: 89,198


How the hell did this happen?

I don't think we did.

Bioware is making it look like MP hasn't fallen off the face of the earth because they want old and new players to come back. But this isn't the most important part.

The mission last week took 200k games to beat. Bioware usually gives us missions that we don't blow out. This mission needed a total of 445K GAMES to wave 10, this is AT LEAST double the effort, and we won? Bull. Don't get me wrong, I have faith in the community, but this is just so improbable that it is almost as bad as the literal endings, or is it?

We collected information off a REAPER. What have we been speculating here? That the reapers have been feeding us misinformation all alone. Well this fits, no? We have been TRICKED into thinking that we won. This OP was near impossible but we were allowed to win. This "information" that we get off this reaper I predict to be false. This info will have the reaper's plans and the function of the beam. Does anything really go according to plan in the SP? 

You've heard it here folks, we've been duped.

No, I am not entirely sure of this, but I've got a really nagging gut feeling about this.



I believe so to Chriz. We were tricked, into getting Reaper information, and this will lead, into Anderson's report, that he gives to Shepard, and Hackett.

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masster blaster wrote...

Big Boss post the update that Chris had on Sunday will you please.

I can't believe people are believeing that they won it without questioning, on how the hell did we pull it of.


As of late Saturday night, the numbers were:

Bronze - 66,611= 33%
Silver - 48,281 = 27%
Gold - 17,466 = 30%

Yeah, there's no way we did this if those numbers were accurate. Either they screwed up the initial count, it was data from only Friday, or, as someone else said, they inflated the final numbers to make MP look less dead than it is. Regardless, I am not surprised that there was a screw-up the first time BW implemented something new.

EDIT: At least the Victory Packs contain a rare gear card.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 14 août 2012 - 09:34 .


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Well yes, but some thing is up, have to check Andersons report after Thessia falls.

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[quote]masster blaster wrote...


It's a shame really that EC is sort of mandatory (i mean, once you have it - it aouteinstalls and there is no way to turn it off. It also seems it has some files for the leviathan, so I really wander wether leviathan will work without the EC.

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Or the Earth dlc, and the weapons back too. They have the scripts for leviathan, and other dlc scripts too.

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I don't have any of the MP dlc, except a partial download of the first one (Resurgence, was it?). I wouldn't think sp dlc would be reliant on mp dlc and if it is, they need to let people know to download it all.

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Chriz Tah Fah wrote...
Hackett is indoctrinated. Maybe intoxicated.

Edit: This was only released to N7 forces...


....meaning this almost reads as propaganda.

The genius thing about indoctrination is (if he is) that it's not Hackett instantly switching the sides and telling others to stand down and telling the Reapers have it right, but Hackett almost sounding ridiculously stubborn.

This is the second message from him using the word 'god'.

And I do agree with you, that it is very convenient that we not only won the operation (after getting to know the numbers for the first time!!! They could've just not give us the numbers and no one would've suspected a thing) but also got info from a Reaper Destroyer. Had it been random intel from a random source, I'd have accepted that this is Bioware trying to cover up their loss of MP playerbase.

But, once again, and just like the endings, there are just too many neat coincidences.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 14 août 2012 - 09:35 .


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You boys are nuts :)

Modifié par legaldinho, 14 août 2012 - 09:37 .


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Legald, something is not right about this operation, being a win for us. And Reaper Information, on what are they planing. Very intersting.

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:unsure:I'd say the info off a reaper could be something. The MP/SP DLC integration / convergence theory- espoused herein by many folks (but I think TSA has done the most comprehensive analysis of Rio -or was it Banshee? lord) has merit. The info from a reaper could lead to our discovering their plans. It could lead us to Rio, I guess. But I don't think it means we failed and Hackett is indoctrinated. Y'all are overreaching, seeing shadows and dervishes everywhere...

PS- re the update. If we were 60% on the way, would they tell us? If it takes 24 hours to post results- in fact about 34 hours- would the information given at the half way point not be almost a day out of date, assuming they check their results less rigorously?

I think we succeeded... I'm a literalist on the operation success, folks. Please don't bash me with blunt objects!

Modifié par legaldinho, 14 août 2012 - 09:49 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Legald, something is not right about this operation, being a win for us. And Reaper Information, on what are they planing. Very intersting.


Not impossible for the community to rally and go balls up into the Operation on Saturday afternoon and onward. Likely the community saw the low numbers, called every friend they had, turned on some Two Steps From Hell, and went at it until they couldn't play anymore.

Or.

The community was just close enough to the goal for Bioware to throw us a bone, like 99% done with each goal by the end of Sunday night. It did seem to be one of the tougher operations in terms of numbers, wasn't surprised at the intial low turn out.

Either way, Operation: Olympus successful. Well done, soldiers /salute.

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legaldinho wrote...

I'd say the info off a reaper could be something. The MP/SP DLC integration / convergence theory- espoused herein by many folks (but I think TSA has done the most comprehensive analysis of Rio -or was it Banshee? lord) has merit. The info from a reaper could lead to our discovering their plans. It could lead us to Rio, I guess. But I don't think it means we failed and Hackett is indoctrinated. Y'all are overreaching, seeing shadows and dervishes everywhere...


Don't so easily attribute the casual musings of one poster to all of us ;)

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The Reaper information will most likely be the basis of the next operation and/or give us insight as to what's going on with the Citadel. Regardless of what info we're given, we are edging ever closer to the end game in MP. Things should get interesting very, very soon.

My guess is that Leviathan will be released this coming Tuesday in advance of the next Operation. Some plot details given in that DLC may give greater context to the next Operation or two.

After all, a Reaper memory core means we may find info about Reaper origins...just putting that out there

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Omg Geordie Shore so sad :(

Something is wrong with the operation. No way we won that

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I don't think Hackett is Indoctrinated, but we were nowhere near getting to at least 50%, so I call BS, and people believe that they won. I laugh at this because Bioware added over reaching numbers that we were no where near. Also We think that theReapers are giving the Resistance dalse information, on what there plans are.

Think about it. In SP Anderson find's out they built a Conduit that goes to the Citadel, which is weird because this happened after the Cerberus base assult.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Legald, something is not right about this operation, being a win for us. And Reaper Information, on what are they planing. Very intersting.


Not impossible for the community to rally and go balls up into the Operation on Saturday afternoon and onward. Likely the community saw the low numbers, called every friend they had, turned on some Two Steps From Hell, and went at it until they couldn't play anymore.

Or.

The community was just close enough to the goal for Bioware to throw us a bone, like 99% done with each goal by the end of Sunday night. It did seem to be one of the tougher operations in terms of numbers, wasn't surprised at the intial low turn out.

Either way, Operation: Olympus successful. Well done, soldiers /salute.


I know I spent every extra minute I had on Sunday playing multiplayer after seeing the numbers from Saturday night. I imagine I'm not alone. 

Awesome job to everyone. 

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When did the operation finish?

When did we get the result?

Halve that duration. Let's be generous. Let's say 16 hours to get results.

We got the information at about the halfway point. I say it was 16 hours out of date. I say we were more like 45% done when the halfway point passed, and we rallied and easily beat the objective.

Alternatively, I'm wrong, and Bioware got scared of the b1tch1ng on the forums and awarded us a victory.

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I, for one, think the victory is real until proven otherwise.

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masster blaster wrote...

I don't think Hackett is Indoctrinated, but we were nowhere near getting to at least 50%, so I call BS, and people believe that they won. I laugh at this because Bioware added over reaching numbers that we were no where near. Also We think that theReapers are giving the Resistance dalse information, on what there plans are.

Think about it. In SP Anderson find's out they built a Conduit that goes to the Citadel, which is weird because this happened after the Cerberus base assult.


I'd expect the MP ops from this point on to be very plot heavy.  This data core might be a *huge* lead in to any greater plot Bioware might have in mind.  Might be the reason they even released the MP statistics.  They wanted this to be a win because it fits into the story they are trying to tell.

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Everyone look at Big Bosses post on this page. We did not win this by ourselves. Bioware did. We were going to lose, but why give us a break. We should have gotten a break on killing 3,000,000 Banshees, but no. I call BS to this. We didn't win because of the MP players, no Bioware did. But why?

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Hrothdane wrote...

I, for one, think the victory is real until proven otherwise.


I second this.  Given the the possible implications of a Reaper memory core though, I suspect that they would have found a way to get the Resistance this data whether or not we succeeded.  If it had been a defeat, the cost of the data would just have caused us to lose a lot of strategic ground in the cities or something

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Okay I will let this go, but this is just wrong, and if Bioware has plans, then I don't know what the f*** is going on here. Well I do, but we could have failed, but we got the information, but no we WON. BS.

I can see the fetting the Reapers Information a Win, but this Operation was to weird in my case.