Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
#10451
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:06
#10452
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:07
Aphras:
"A unique discovery, Aphras[/b] is a
"heavenly twin" - a planet in a star system that has not one but two
worlds of sufficient size to retain a nitrogen-oxygen atmosphere within
the habitable life zone of its parent star. Fossil evidence shows
abundant vertebrates and evidence of a sapient terrestrial avian species
in its Bronze Age. However, the only trace of contemporary life on the
planet is that of single-celled organisms in its seas. All else has
suffered from an extinction event - a series of massive impacts that
vaporized vast quantities of water and lofted dust into its atmosphere.
Early theories that this event was a collision with a fragmenting
asteroid have now been discounted - the impact craters were aimed
directly at habitation centers."
#10453
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:11
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
#10454
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:11
Played ME3 single player, speculated on the thread about Allers stating how Reapers would totally obliterate areas on Earth that they didn't stop to indoctrinate (Africa) which proves the presence of DEAD bodies in London/Citadel to be totally wrong and off.
Speculated that Anderson in the Citadel is part of Sheps mind (He describes the coming areas perfectly for Sheps mind to create for the part of Sheps mind that is Shep, despite having gone through the beam after Shep and ended up first in the control centre even though there's only one entrance)
Cycled 12km so feel really happy and getting fitter which is helping my confidence and thus overall happiness to hopefully stop my anxiety and panic attacks!
Watched England beat Italy 2-1
Spending more time with the best people - The IT thread
That's it for today diary, I love you.
Sam x
#10455
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:12
Oh nice! That's my computer background. I have a similar one for my Xbox. Oh and did you add me on xbox?N7L4D wrote...
@banshee was it the wide screen one? Btw if it is that's my Xbox live dashboard(home) wallpaper
#10456
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:12
I did it so that my post wouldn't be missed.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
I may be going through a strong depression currently, but I don't think of myself as an empty shell just yet.
Modifié par estebanus, 15 août 2012 - 10:13 .
#10457
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:14
Lol nice. I got the Eagle IV.CoolioThane wrote...
Today was good: got my Hurricane III
Played ME3 single player, speculated on the thread about Allers stating how Reapers would totally obliterate areas on Earth that they didn't stop to indoctrinate (Africa) which proves the presence of DEAD bodies in London/Citadel to be totally wrong and off.
Speculated that Anderson in the Citadel is part of Sheps mind (He describes the coming areas perfectly for Sheps mind to create for the part of Sheps mind that is Shep, despite having gone through the beam after Shep and ended up first in the control centre even though there's only one entrance)
Cycled 12km so feel really happy and getting fitter which is helping my confidence and thus overall happiness to hopefully stop my anxiety and panic attacks!
Watched England beat Italy 2-1
Spending more time with the best people - The IT thread
That's it for today diary, I love you.
Sam x
#10458
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:15
... I got nothing. I only got some better gear, and that's it.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Lol nice. I got the Eagle IV.CoolioThane wrote...
Today was good: got my Hurricane III
Played ME3 single player, speculated on the thread about Allers stating how Reapers would totally obliterate areas on Earth that they didn't stop to indoctrinate (Africa) which proves the presence of DEAD bodies in London/Citadel to be totally wrong and off.
Speculated that Anderson in the Citadel is part of Sheps mind (He describes the coming areas perfectly for Sheps mind to create for the part of Sheps mind that is Shep, despite having gone through the beam after Shep and ended up first in the control centre even though there's only one entrance)
Cycled 12km so feel really happy and getting fitter which is helping my confidence and thus overall happiness to hopefully stop my anxiety and panic attacks!
Watched England beat Italy 2-1
Spending more time with the best people - The IT thread
That's it for today diary, I love you.
Sam xI've also started screwing around with ME3 mods. Eventually I may port them to my xbox version.
#10459
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:15
I don't think you'll ever be an empty shell.estebanus wrote...
I did it so that my post wouldn't be missed.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
I may be going through a strong depression currently, but I don't think of myself as an empty shell just yet.
Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 15 août 2012 - 10:16 .
#10460
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:18
I'm ok, really. It's just that my sister was shot recently (she's a soldier, you see) and is in the hospital now. So I'm kinda worried for her.BansheeOwnage wrote...
I don't think you'll ever be an empty shell.estebanus wrote...
I did it so that my post wouldn't be missed.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
I may be going through a strong depression currently, but I don't think of myself as an empty shell just yet.If you ever need to talk to someone though, you can PM me. I don't judge people's preferences much at all.
#10461
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:19
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Oh nice! That's my computer background. I have a similar one for my Xbox. Oh and did you add me on xbox?N7L4D wrote...
@banshee was it the wide screen one? Btw if it is that's my Xbox live dashboard(home) wallpaper
Yeah I did, I'm xAJE84578x
If had a better computer I'd use something ME related hahaha but I got this cool alliance one one my phone hahaha
#10462
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:20
Wow, that's an awesome background! Did you make it yourself?N7L4D wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Oh nice! That's my computer background. I have a similar one for my Xbox. Oh and did you add me on xbox?N7L4D wrote...
@banshee was it the wide screen one? Btw if it is that's my Xbox live dashboard(home) wallpaper
Yeah I did, I'm xAJE84578x
If had a better computer I'd use something ME related hahaha but I got this cool alliance one one my phone hahaha
#10463
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:21
Oh, sorry to hear that. I also know some soldiers. Hope she gets better.estebanus wrote...
I'm ok, really. It's just that my sister was shot recently (she's a soldier, you see) and is in the hospital now. So I'm kinda worried for her.BansheeOwnage wrote...
I don't think you'll ever be an empty shell.estebanus wrote...
I did it so that my post wouldn't be missed.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
I may be going through a strong depression currently, but I don't think of myself as an empty shell just yet.If you ever need to talk to someone though, you can PM me. I don't judge people's preferences much at all.
#10464
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:22
I thought so, but I wanted to make sure. Anyway, that is a pretty sweet background. I find it funny how it says "No one left forgotten" and Hackett doesn't mention Shepard at all in the destroy EC.N7L4D wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Oh nice! That's my computer background. I have a similar one for my Xbox. Oh and did you add me on xbox?N7L4D wrote...
@banshee was it the wide screen one? Btw if it is that's my Xbox live dashboard(home) wallpaper
Yeah I did, I'm xAJE84578x
If had a better computer I'd use something ME related hahaha but I got this cool alliance one one my phone hahaha
#10465
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:23
Yup, but that's gonna make for one nasty scar in her thigh.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Oh, sorry to hear that. I also know some soldiers. Hope she gets better.estebanus wrote...
I'm ok, really. It's just that my sister was shot recently (she's a soldier, you see) and is in the hospital now. So I'm kinda worried for her.BansheeOwnage wrote...
I don't think you'll ever be an empty shell.estebanus wrote...
I did it so that my post wouldn't be missed.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
I may be going through a strong depression currently, but I don't think of myself as an empty shell just yet.If you ever need to talk to someone though, you can PM me. I don't judge people's preferences much at all.
#10466
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:25
That's weird acutally. I had a feeling it was her thigh.estebanus wrote...
Yup, but that's gonna make for one nasty scar in her thigh.
#10467
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:27
the Citadel. Think about it we have speculated, that Coats is either an
agent of the Reapers, or for Cerberus. Now it was he that says my god
they are all gone, and gave the full retreat. Now I think Shepard is
hearing this, while he/she is asleep/ being Indoctrinated by Harbinger.
Once
Shepard wakes up in his/her dream, and goes up on the Citadel, that's
when we see the battle taking place in space. Now once we get to Hackett
looking out of the window, he get's a report about someone made it to
the Citadel, now that's impossible, since Coats said " My god they are
all gone."
So in my case, everything Shepard does in his/her
dream, up till Shepard meets the Catalyst is a hallucination/ dream.
You see after Shepard opens the Citadel in the fake Control room. That
is when Hackett is calling Shepard on his/her radio, since the Crucible
is not firing, and Hackett is telling Shepard all of this, while Shepard
is waking up.
Also I think that form the moment we see the space battle, after Shepard goes up is real, but when Shepard goes up to meet the Catalyst/harbinger, it's all fake/an hallucination/over lapin reality, with a dream.
Now once Shepard passes out Hackett stops all communications to Shepard. Harbinger destroys Shepard's radio so that
nothing else would in danger the Indoctrination process any further.
Now
when Shepard wakes up in the Catalyst chambers, Shepard is seeing an
overlay of the beam run, but is hallucinating. Now when Shepard picks
Destroy, Harbinger continues to show Shepard the end result, in order to
keep Shepard occupied, so Harbinger can kill him/her.
Yet with Leviathan, he may stop Harbinger, from killing Shepard, and thus causing him/her, to wake up for real.
Now
if you don't have Leviathan the Normandy attackers Harbinger in the high
EMS Destroy ending, yet anything lower, than high EMS, Shepard dies, do
to the lack of war assets fighting the Reapers, and giving Shepard more
time to wake up.
Edit: Anyone can read this, just to be clear/respond to this.
Modifié par masster blaster, 15 août 2012 - 11:18 .
#10468
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:27
... Can you read minds?BansheeOwnage wrote...
That's weird acutally. I had a feeling it was her thigh.estebanus wrote...
Yup, but that's gonna make for one nasty scar in her thigh.Weird.
#10469
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:28
Maybe.estebanus wrote...
... Can you read minds?BansheeOwnage wrote...
That's weird acutally. I had a feeling it was her thigh.estebanus wrote...
Yup, but that's gonna make for one nasty scar in her thigh.Weird.
#10470
Guest_Flog61_*
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:29
Guest_Flog61_*
estebanus wrote...
I'm ok, really. It's just that my sister was shot recently (she's a soldier, you see) and is in the hospital now. So I'm kinda worried for her.BansheeOwnage wrote...
I don't think you'll ever be an empty shell.estebanus wrote...
I did it so that my post wouldn't be missed.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Estebanus I don't think you're as empty as that!estebanus wrote...
I may be going through a strong depression currently, but I don't think of myself as an empty shell just yet.If you ever need to talk to someone though, you can PM me. I don't judge people's preferences much at all.
Omg, is she going to be ok? Thoughts with you, man.
#10471
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:29
#10472
Guest_Flog61_*
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:30
Guest_Flog61_*
masster blaster wrote...
TJ, and Max, or the Hackett get's a false report that somebody mad it to the Citadel. Think about it we have speculated, that Coats is either an agent of the Reapers, or for Cerberus. Now it was he that saya my god they are all gone, and gave the full retreat. Now I think Shepard is hearing this, while he/she is asleep/ being Indoctrinated by Harbinger.
Once Shepard wakes up in his/her dream, and goes up on the Citadel, that's when we see the battle taking place in space. Now once we get to Hackett looking out of the window, he get's a report about someone made it to the Citadel, now that's impossible, since Coats said " My god they are all gone."
So in my case, everything Shepard does in his/her dream, up till Shepard meets the Catalyst is a hallucination/ dream. You see after Shepard opens the Citadel in the fake Control room. That is when Hackett is calling Shepard on his/her radio, since the Cruible is not firing, and Hackett is telling Shepard all of this, while Shepard is waking up.
Now once Shepard passes out Hackett stops all communcations to Shepard. Harbinger destroys Shepards radio so that nothing else would in danger the Indoctrination process any further.
Now when Shepard wakes up in the Catalyst chambers, Shepard is seeing an overlay of the beam run, but is hallucinating. Now when Shepard picks Destroy, Harbinger continues to show Shepard the end result, inorder to keep Shepard ocuppied, so Harbinger can kill him/her.
Yet with Leviathan, he may stop Harbinger, from killing Shepard, and thus causing him/her, to wake up for real.
Now if you don't have Leviathan the Normandy attackes Harbinger in the high EMS Destroy ending, yet anything lower, than high EMS, Shepard dies, do to the lack of war assets fighting the Reapers, and giving Shepard more time to wake up.
I see that I'm not invited to this post.
Better not read.
#10473
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:32
"Scientist: I woke up this morning in a cold sweat. The nightmare was back, the one with the enormous starship crawling through the Citadel and all my friends turning to dust. Even now I can see it in my mind. Why won't this stop?"
I'm sure I don't need to tell you this connects to Shepard's recurring dreams in ME3. Both dreams imply helplessness on the part of the dreamer by showing them unable to help someone they care about. The scientist also says "the nightmare was back," meaning that the dreams are infrequent, like Shepard's
"Guard: When it's silent, when there's no one else around, I can hear it. Whispers in the back of my mind, and I can't tell what they're saying."
He can hear the Reapers communicating with him, but he can't make out what they are actually saying. This reminded me of that Reaper sound effect that sounds similar to "serve us" or "save us."
"Guard: Kenson's acting strang lately. Like she doesn't care about the Project anymore. And I know I'm not the only one having those dreams. 'The Reapers are coming,' she says. But I'm not sure if I'm hearing far or hope in her voice."
This quote shows that the dreams are not a unique occurrence.
"Dr. Kenson: The longer we're here, the more I'm convinced that the Project must be stopped. We simply don't know enough about what the Reapers want. It's foolish to assume that the Reapers mean doom for the galaxy. Legends say they've come through before, and yet life continues, doesn't it?"
So the most clearly indoctrinated person on the Project staff started to sympathize with the Reapers and wanted to learn more about their motives.
"Dr. Kenson: I will die never having seen the Reapers' blessings. And you will just die."
This quote struck me as odd. It may just be structured awkwardly, but it could also imply that Shepard will see the "Reapers' blessings" before dying.
"Harbinger: This seems a victory to you. A star system sacrificed. But even now, your greatest civilizations are doomed to fall. Your leaders will beg to serve us."
The last sentence implies that the Reapers will let the leaders live long enough to have an opportunity to beg. This shows from Harbinger's own mouth(?) that the Reapers DO intend to indoctrinate galactic leaders instead of just kililng them. Note that Shepard could easily be considered one of those leaders in ME3.
"Harbinger: Know this as you die in vain: Your time will come. Your species will fall."
Harbinger's language takes a strange turn here. The entire game he says that the Reapers will bring human species "ascension" or "evolution" or "salvation through destruction" or they will be "brought into harmony with our own." All of a sudden, Harbinger says that our species will fall, the exact opposite of ascension. I haven't made any conclusions yet from this change in language, but I think it deserves note.
Because English doesn't have plural second-person pronouns (grrrrrr...), it's also unclear whether he means "Your (species') time will come," or "Your (Shepard's) time will come."
#10474
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:32
Yup, she's a sturdy one. Not even the first time she's been hurt, even.Flog61 wrote...
Omg, is she going to be ok? Thoughts with you, man.
Turns out that danish officers get involved in combat much more frequently than you'd expect an officer to be.
#10475
Posté 15 août 2012 - 10:33
Well, whenever I need someone to read minds, I'll give you a call, ok?BansheeOwnage wrote...
Maybe.estebanus wrote...
... Can you read minds?BansheeOwnage wrote...
That's weird acutally. I had a feeling it was her thigh.estebanus wrote...
Yup, but that's gonna make for one nasty scar in her thigh.Weird.




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