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@masster

Well, that's quite a lot of assumptions you're putting in there. What else can I say than: could be.

And didn't they remove the "My god, they're all gone." line in the EC?

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MaximizedAction wrote...

@masster

Well, that's quite a lot of assumptions you're putting in there. What else can I say than: could be.

And didn't they remove the "My god, they're all gone." line in the EC?


nope it's still there.

He says " God, they are all gone."

Sorry not "My god"
www.youtube.com/watch

skip to 3:20, and listen.

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www.youtube.com/watch

Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back
words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel
the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having
his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard
live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.

Modifié par masster blaster, 16 août 2012 - 12:32 .


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PRO-TIP: How to link to a specific time in a YouTube video.

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masster blaster wrote...



Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back
words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel
the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having
his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard
live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


Ok....I got a question....Why are there no guns on shepard's, ashley's and james's baks and in hands?? Before the normandy flyies in??


Side note:  Man, how i hate the normandy pick up scene in the extended cut..... it makes my head hurt each time i see.... I really regret activating the Extended Cut DLC on my game, and not simply watching it on youtube, because of things like this scene (which are sadly plentifull) - and now i'm stuck with my game forever like this...

Modifié par demersel, 16 août 2012 - 12:36 .


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JasonSic wrote...

PRO-TIP: How to link to a specific time in a YouTube video.

1. Pause YouTube video at desired time.
2. Right click on the YouTube video.
3. Left click on "Copy video URL at current time".
4. Proceed to paste URL on the forums like you normally would.

Just thought some of you should know.


okay I fixed it, thanks.

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...



Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back
words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel
the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having
his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard
live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


Ok....I got a question....Why are there no guns on shepard's, ashley's and james's baks and in hands?? Before the normandy flyies in??


Not a clue, people say Lazy, Bioware, or bad writing, i say IT.

Some people believe, that the dream/hallucination happence, right after the Veichale crashes, and i am starting to see, what they mean.

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masster blaster wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


Hey, I never looked at that bit. That short bit could either be Shepard being thrown back or the camera moving towards Shepard. But assuming that Bioware knew that this might look like he was thrown back (we were already discussing that he woke up much nearer to the beam before the EC got released).
Besides, why let that small part in and why have that small piece of extra action in there at all if the screen is going to go white anyway? Either way, it's odd.

Great find masster!

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masster blaster wrote...

demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...



Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back
words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel
the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having
his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard
live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


Ok....I got a question....Why are there no guns on shepard's, ashley's and james's baks and in hands?? Before the normandy flyies in??


Not a clue, people say Lazy, Bioware, or bad writing, i say IT.

Some people believe, that the dream/hallucination happence, right after the Veichale crashes, and i am starting to see, what they mean.


actually dream\\hallucination sequence propper, i think, starts at the same place where it used to be before - at the end of the controlled run (you still have a gun up to this point) - 2.06 in the video. 

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MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


Hey, I never looked at that bit. That short bit could either be Shepard being thrown back or the camera moving towards Shepard. But assuming that Bioware knew that this might look like he was thrown back (we were already discussing that he woke up much nearer to the beam before the EC got released).
Besides, why let that small part in and why have that small piece of extra action in there at all if the screen is going to go white anyway? Either way, it's odd.

Great find masster!


Yes I just saw that the other day.

It's like when they have if you failed the Arriavel, and you see a 10 seconed video, of the Reapers arriving, and some bits of pieces that tell of what may happen at the end.

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Ok....I got a question....Why are there no guns on shepard's, ashley's and james's baks and in hands?? Before the normandy flyies in??

Side note:  Man, how i hate the normandy pick up scene in the extended cut..... it makes my head hurt each time i see.... I really regret activating the Extended Cut DLC on my game, and not simply watching it on youtube, because of things like this scene (which are sadly plentifull) - and now i'm stuck with my game forever like this...


Shep gets all his guns replaced with a singular Predator once the cutscene kicks in. He then loses the pistol again, once the heavy mako flips over / the squad gets shot.

And I like the pick up scene only for the reason that it has Harbinger not shooting the Normandy in the oddest of all ways and because of all these neat lines and whispers from Harbinger -- reminds me of the comments of about-to-be-indoc'd individuals who whitnessed Reapers in close vicinity throughout ME1 and ME2

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MaximizedAction wrote...
And I like the pick up scene only for the reason that it has Harbinger not shooting the Normandy in the oddest of all ways and because of all these neat lines and whispers from Harbinger -- reminds me of the comments of about-to-be-indoc'd individuals who whitnessed Reapers in close vicinity throughout ME1 and ME2



But it's stupid! stupid! stupid! stupid! stupid! stupid! stupid! STUPID!!!!!! :crying:

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i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.

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XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


Thank you, Captain Obvious, for your insightfull input!

Modifié par demersel, 16 août 2012 - 12:53 .


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XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


You could add, that in Control, and Synthesis, Shepard get's those eyes. we have the screen shot, if you want we can get them for you?

Also um you have to also mention that Shepard is under going Indoctrination, until Shepard makes the choice, that will either Indoctrinated him/her, or break the Reapers hold over Shepard.

Modifié par masster blaster, 16 août 2012 - 12:58 .


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demersel wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


Thank you, Captain Obvious! 


hey calm down. some people don't believe this, and he makes a point, in order to understand IT, we need to break it down, like Simon did. we should give him a break. At least he, or she is trying to help us.

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masster blaster wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


You could add, that in Control, and Synthesis, Shepard get's those eyes. we have the screen shot, if you want we can get them for you?

you can if you want to

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Just popping in quickly and then I'm going to leave. You know the tall stick figure in the cave drawing n the far right for Leviathan? I figured out what it could be. An enderman from Minecraft. Once I saw this likeness I went to their description to find if there was anything else of interest other than just appearance. Here is the description:

"An Enderman (plural Endermen) is a three-block-high, humanoid, neutral mob. Endermen are known for their unique ability to teleport and pick up blocks.
Along with those abilities, they also have a peculiar way of becoming provoked; as well as becoming provoked when attacked, Endermen also become provoked by the player staring into their eyes."

So they can teleport a short distance. Hmmm....wait...so can banshees which were once asari which look like the people in the drawings. Pretty weak connection I know but I don't believe in coincidences.

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masster blaster wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back
words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel
the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having
his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard
live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


See and perfect symmetry like I talked about in earlier posts where in the beginning of ME3 you have a reaper beam doing directly down like the conduit, you have Shepard flying backward from a reaper blast, and Shepard hunched over just like at the end of ME3, symmetry ftw.

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masster blaster wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


You could add, that in Control, and Synthesis, Shepard get's those eyes. we have the screen shot, if you want we can get them for you?

Also um you have to also mention that Shepard is under going Indoctrination, until Shepard makes the choice, that will either Indoctrinated him/her, or break the Reapers hold over Shepard.

but hell they are still going to b**** and complain that this theory is fake, so go right ahead Posted Image

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demersel wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


Thank you, Captain Obvious, for your insightfull input!


Whoa. No need for the saracasm. He's probably new to the IT so don't be rough on the fact he doesn't know all the details yet. :?

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 16 août 2012 - 01:09 .


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smokingotter1 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Guys Shepard is fly's back words, and does not get a direct hit from harbinger.

look
at 4:01 between 4:04. now pause it at 4:04 Shepard is flying back
words, not getting hit by the death ray, but by causing Shepard to feel
the heat of the beam. In which case knocking Shepard back, and having
his/her armor Shredded/bleeding. Now why would Harbinger let Shepard
live. I already know why, but what do you think.

Now remember in the Destroy ending, when we use fly came, Shepard is flying back.


See and perfect symmetry like I talked about in earlier posts where in the beginning of ME3 you have a reaper beam doing directly down like the conduit, you have Shepard flying backward from a reaper blast, and Shepard hunched over just like at the end of ME3, symmetry ftw.


Posted Image

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masster blaster wrote...

demersel wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


Thank you, Captain Obvious! 


hey calm down. some people don't believe this, and he makes a point, in order to understand IT, we need to break it down, like Simon did. we should give him a break. At least he, or she is trying to help us.


Simon did great by the way. Loved his post. 

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XxDarkTimexX wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


You could add, that in Control, and Synthesis, Shepard get's those eyes. we have the screen shot, if you want we can get them for you?

you can if you want to


Here you go.

Posted Image

http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

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masster blaster wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i have a theory that i came up with that helps the indoctrination theory. 
                              


                                                                               Indoctrinated Eyes Theory


Indoctrination eyes is a small compared to all of the indoctrination theory but this theory is the one of the major ones that says Shepard is indoctrinated but read carefully about what I’m going to say. The only way to get indoctrinated eyes is for you to get indoctrinated and have reaper tech in you. With all you have been indoctrinated has been Saren Arterius, illusive man, and Commander Shepard. Those are the only ones that I found that have the eyes besides husk. For those who are indoctrinated will not get the eyes unless they have reaper tech in them self. If i left anything out just comment about it.


You could add, that in Control, and Synthesis, Shepard get's those eyes. we have the screen shot, if you want we can get them for you?

you can if you want to


Here you go.

Posted Image

http://desmond.image...png&res=landing




Also,if you zoom in enough,you can see what look to be kind of reaper tech in his eyes.