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[TJBartlemus]

DrTsoni wrote...

Hm...I support this, of course, but just for the sake of argument, how do we know that what Hackett says is even reality?

I believe it is reality. I have a theory on this. There are two Shepards at all times when playing Mass Effect. "Player Shep" (that is us who actually are controlling Shep) and "Character Shep". (The Shepard that is affected and through his/her perceptions we see a majority of the time.) During times of the game like the Geth Fighter Squadrens when the screen cuts to the squad giving an update to the admiral is impossible for Character Shep to see but we as Player Shep do see. Seeing as Character Shep is being affected by indoctrination and perceptions are being affected, I think we as Player Shep our perceptions are not affected. So when it cuts to scenes that are impossible for Character Shep to see it can be assumed that what we as Player Shep see is unaffected and do happen.

(This make sense?? )

[masster blaster]

DD, I have just some things, to say about your theory.

1. I think nobody opens the Citadel, but the Reapers.
Think about " Someone made it to the Citadel, now there are only two people that went up there. Shepard, and Anderson, but if this is a dream, then neither of them went up at all to the Citadel. My theory is that Coats our Cerberus, or Reaper agent, sent Hackett a false report, that will foul Hackett, into beleveing that someone made it to the Citadel, so they won't go looking for Shepard.

2. My thing is that when Shepard activates, the Citadel, in his/her dream, the Reapers open up the Citadel in real life, but the problem is that the crucible, is only a battery charger, for the Citadel, and Relays.

3. When Hackett radio's Shepard, it's weird that Hackett changes his attidtue a bit, when he trys to tell Shepard, that the Crucible, that it's not firing. Now I think Hackett is causing Shepard to wake up, but Harbinger, is trying to block off the Radio transmission, so that nothing would interfear, with his master plan.

4. I think Shepard is wake, before the Catalyst says " wake up", because in the first new scene, Shepard looks up, to see the Catalyst slow walking towards him/her. Now from what you are daying about this part is the Conduit run in reality, I think is correct. For one I think, in refuse, is Shepard giving up, and not letting the Indoctrination go any further, how ever, if Shepard does this, this means that Shepard is stuck in the Reaper mind, and will never wake up. Only in Destroy you wake up, because you pugered the Reapers out of Shepard's head. Hence why the husk turn to ash, once the ray of light hits them.

[DJBare]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I just downloaded FRAPS. However, I somehow can't get it to start recording. I checked all my settings, they're fine. It's just not responding to the hotkey.I tried several.

Is this because it's a free version/trial or something? I got it from FRAPS.com.

Have you tried another hotkey?, I usually go with CTRL+F11, normally nothing else uses that combination.

[DoomsdayDevice]

OK!

I got it!

I downloaded Bandicam, which is supposedly better. Got the video, it worked.

I kept it simple. You see me opening the sound file from the citadel convo, playing it. Then you see me resampling it and playing it, and you hear the Reaper horn.

Uploading to YouTube, stay tuned!

[TJBartlemus]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MIND = BLOWN

GUYS!!!!!!

I just made the most amazing discovery!

The whole 'dream theory' had me thinking about that sequence with TIM and Anderson on the Citadel. TSA and others were talking about how times goes much slower in dreams, right?

Suddenly I had this amazing idea. I went to youtube, found the sound of the Reaper horn and recorded it in Audition. Resampled the wave by stretching it, guess what? I got that exact same sound effect you hear when TIM is talking to you and you see the black corners of the screen.

So I needed confirmation. Found the citadel scene, recorded that Indoctrination sound, upsampled it by compressing the wave...what do I get? That's right. A mother******* Reaper Horn. EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Someone suggest me a way to share the sounds with you guys and I will.

It's a REAPER that's indoctrinating you, not TIM. It's a freaking Reaper horn! You're just hearing it at a slower pace and lower pitch, because you're dreaming! It's Harbinger!

MIND BLOWN.  So much so there is brain damage. Enough I could becme a buhmbling idoit gha al grumble grumble meh bleh.... 

[Priss Blackburne]

TJBartlemus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MIND = BLOWN

GUYS!!!!!!

I just made the most amazing discovery!

The whole 'dream theory' had me thinking about that sequence with TIM and Anderson on the Citadel. TSA and others were talking about how times goes much slower in dreams, right?

Suddenly I had this amazing idea. I went to youtube, found the sound of the Reaper horn and recorded it in Audition. Resampled the wave by stretching it, guess what? I got that exact same sound effect you hear when TIM is talking to you and you see the black corners of the screen.

So I needed confirmation. Found the citadel scene, recorded that Indoctrination sound, upsampled it by compressing the wave...what do I get? That's right. A mother******* Reaper Horn. EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Someone suggest me a way to share the sounds with you guys and I will.

It's a REAPER that's indoctrinating you, not TIM. It's a freaking Reaper horn! You're just hearing it at a slower pace and lower pitch, because you're dreaming! It's Harbinger!

MIND BLOWN.  So much so there is brain damage. Enough I could becme a buhmbling idoit gha al grumble grumble meh bleh.... 

yeah all the sounds during that conversation are slowed down reaper noises. played with the sounds a while back and noticed it.

[DJBare]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

OK!

I got it!

I downloaded Bandicam, which is supposedly better. Got the video, it worked.

I kept it simple. You see me opening the sound file from the citadel convo, playing it. Then you see me resampling it and playing it, and you hear the Reaper horn.

Uploading to YouTube, stay tuned!

Before folk get too excited, keep in mind they extensively re-use assets, it would not be far fetched to consider the sound guy found it more convenient to use a file on hand to get the job done.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Hidden Reaper Horn in Mass Effect 3 Ending (YouTube video)

Conclusive proof that it is in fact not TIM who is indoctrinating Shepard, it is a Reaper.

I simply upsampled the sound effect that plays during the TIM/Anderson convo, et voilá: Reaper horn.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 17 août 2012 - 02:45 .

[TJBartlemus]

DJBare wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

OK!

I got it!

I downloaded Bandicam, which is supposedly better. Got the video, it worked.

I kept it simple. You see me opening the sound file from the citadel convo, playing it. Then you see me resampling it and playing it, and you hear the Reaper horn.

Uploading to YouTube, stay tuned!

Before folk get too excited, keep in mind they extensively re-use assets, it would not be far fetched to consider the sound guy found it more convenient to use a file on hand to get the job done.

Don't forget though. When BioWare caught wind of that we found infrasonic noise put in the audio they admitted that they put a lot of interesting things in the audio portions of the game. So it is most likely on purpose and for a reason. 

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 17 août 2012 - 02:48 .

[spotlessvoid]

TJ...any particular link or suggestion where to find that?

[DoomsdayDevice]

masster blaster wrote...

DD, I have just some things, to say about your theory.

1. I think nobody opens the Citadel, but the Reapers.
Think about " Someone made it to the Citadel, now there are only two people that went up there. Shepard, and Anderson, but if this is a dream, then neither of them went up at all to the Citadel

Well, my theory would fit with Simon_Says' thesis that the space scenes could be real, and only the Shepard scenes are dreams/hallucinations.

masster blaster wrote...

2. My thing is that when Shepard activates, the Citadel, in his/her dream, the Reapers open up the Citadel in real life, but the problem is that the crucible, is only a battery charger, for the Citadel, and Relays.

AFAIK, there's nothing concrete that really supports the idea of the Reapers opening the Citadel. As for the Crucible being a battery... we only have Starbinger's word for that.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 17 août 2012 - 03:08 .

[masster blaster]

Yes, but that doesn't mean, that he is right about the Crucible, being, a battery. Yet we don't know what it does.

[TJBartlemus]

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJ...any particular link or suggestion where to find that?

A link to the finding of infrasound? I believe it should be in a link on the main page of the thread. 

[DoomsdayDevice]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Hidden Reaper Horn in Mass Effect 3 Ending (YouTube video)

Conclusive proof that it is in fact not TIM who is indoctrinating Shepard, it is a Reaper.

I simply upsampled the sound effect that plays during the TIM/Anderson convo, et voilá: Reaper horn.

So what do you guys think of the Indoc sound being a Reaper horn? I mean, I have suspected it, but this proves it!

And it proves that there's a Reaper in your head, and not TIM's Indoc-R-Us Omni-Tool App.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 17 août 2012 - 03:07 .

[masster blaster]

Well DD, people will still won't believe it, and Bioware won't comment on this, for the sack of their story right now. Also most people, will say, " If this is true, then why didn't Bioware comment on this, and if so, then why didn't they say this proves IT."

[ZerebusPrime]

I think TIM's omnitool app could really sound like a slowed down Reaper horn. Or it could be that we continue to hear distorted sounds throughout the ending sequence. Perhaps we should be looking for others.

[Priss Blackburne]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Hidden Reaper Horn in Mass Effect 3 Ending (YouTube video)

Conclusive proof that it is in fact not TIM who is indoctrinating Shepard, it is a Reaper.

I simply upsampled the sound effect that plays during the TIM/Anderson convo, et voilá: Reaper horn.

So what do you guys think of the Indoc sound being a Reaper horn? I mean, I have suspected it, but this proves it!

And it proves that there's a Reaper in your head, and not TIM's Indoc-R-Us Omni-Tool App.

Discussed it in the Mark II thread. but it's a good clue but could easly be a reused asset as well. Or it could just be the way indoctrination sounds as it's tied into noise the reapers make.

[TJBartlemus]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
And it proves that there's a Reaper in your head, and not TIM's Indoc-R-Us Omni-Tool App.

I want that app!!!  I might have to wait till a V2 comes out though cause the current one can only make people stand still and not shut up.  

[spotlessvoid]

TJ...no the Bioware comments. I saw the infrasound debate unfold live

[TJBartlemus]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I think TIM's omnitool app could really sound like a slowed down Reaper horn. Or it could be that we continue to hear distorted sounds throughout the ending sequence. Perhaps we should be looking for others.

You got to say the coincidences are quite strong here. A slowed down Reaper horn. Dreams are generally slowed down....plus other slowed down things:

Shepard can only shuffle slowly. TIM walks in. The bodies fall slowish when convo is done. The elevator rises pretty slowly. Shepard crawls slowly to the console. 

Of course the examples aren't too slowed down cause if they were slower it would be too much of a hint. It had to be subtle. 

[spotlessvoid]

Reused assets don't really cut if for me on this one. That's a Reaper horn, not some ambient noise

[TJBartlemus]

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJ...no the Bioware comments. I saw the infrasound debate unfold live

Oh. Sorry. Don't have that. I just remember that they did say that. (And I've got a good memory.) Maybe Hellish has a link cause it was refering to his video. 

[masster blaster]

Okay everyone, I am going to bed, and I like the video DD, but be prepard, to have people saying some nasty stuff about your video, and that your an ITer.

[spotlessvoid]

Wear that IT moniker with pride!

[TJBartlemus]

So about them speculations....what about this?

http://social.biowar...ndex/13474338/5

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 17 août 2012 - 03:37 .