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[CoolioThane]

New page, new speculations!!!

Or bring up some old stuff? Who enjoys a bit of barcode-thing discussion??

CoolioThane wrote...

 London Calling - The Clash
The ending takes place in London, clash representing the conflict taking place.
Delve deeper into the record, notice some of the tracks:
i) London Calling
ii) Hateful
iii) Death or Glory
iv) Four Horsemen
v) I'm Not Down
vi) Revolution Rock

Now, obviously, I'm looking too far into the album, but it interests me. These tracks strike me as fitting in with the ending. Hatred from and towards the Reapers, the four horsemen of the apocalypse indicating what could happen if we fail. Death or glory, success or total annihilation. Revolution against the norm, the norm being a Reaper victory and thus ending the cycle.

Atomic Weight of Iron
55.845 +/- 0.002 u
Fe, Atomic Number: 26 

Famous iron canyons of Aequitas...another link to indoctrination and the potential Leviathan DLC - if we are right in suggesting the DLC may take place at Aequitas. If it does not, it is still another link to indoctrination, with the device in ME2.

Or if you're mental you could look at it like this (This is just for fun, I don't actually believe this):
26 is the Atomic Number
The crystalline structure is Cubic...cubes have 6 faces...

26/6 is the day the Extended Cut was released - CONCLUSIVE (lol)

UK Secret Service
Provides the government with foreign intelligence - maybe a nudge towards Earth being supplied information from "foreign" planets, maybe but this is a reach. Though we do provide Anderson and Earth with info throughout the game?

Moving on, I suspect it's something to do with Reaper spies within London, purely because the Indoctrination Codezx entry mentions this sort of thing and it makes perfect sense. Coates being the Reaper thrall makes sense, considering he was by himself fighting Reapers for days and so his mind likely would have been weakened...could also fit with why we clearly see the warning sign next to him on the Mako similar to the signs near the kid on Vancouver.


-128.6 Fahrenheit
Vostok Station, Antarctica - -128.6 Fahrenheit the coldest temperature recorded on Earth

Vostok System - Alko, Clomarthu, Nodacrux, Pataiton, .ALKO - Unregistered starship travel, travel not recommended
CLOMARTHU - Could be Earth's twin (size and orbit) but no life
NODACRUX - Very interesting. Abandoned facility with Thorian Creepers (Indoctrination) thus links in with the hinted Leviathan DLC - Also space cows xD
PATAITON - Meh, just a Matriarch writing Tali discovers on ship

Nodacrux interests me greatly. Especially with there being mentions to Thorians in the hinted DLC...this could prove to be a link to these clues

May also just point to Lake Vostok in Eastern Antarcitca, where scientists (Now, in the present 2012) hypothesise new life could be found in the underwater lake...maybe hinting there could be something in the lake that's been hidden for thousands of years...an Ancient species, a weapon, plans? This is purely **** thoughts and bull - I'm sure it relates to the Vostok system, specifically Nodacrux and its Thorian creepers.

Red Herring
The most interesting of all. Red Herring, also known as IGNORATIO ELENCHI...which translates to - which I find absolutely perfect - IRRELEVANT CONCLUSION, or FALLACY OF DISTRACTION. 

"deliberate attempt to divert a process of enquiry by changing the subject. For example: "I think that we should make the academic requirements stricter for students. I recommend that you support this because we are in a budget crisis and we do not want our salaries affected."[/i] Here the second sentence, though used to support the first, does not address the topic of the first sentence, instead switching the focus to the quite different topic of lecturer salaries. "

Holy ****, this has got me excited.


Also sorry for my post if it appears stupid, I just went full crazy on this research stuff xD INTERESTING
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Any opinions? I workeded hard being a tinhat! 

In case anyone hasn't seen it

Modifié par CoolioThane, 17 août 2012 - 05:12 .

[FFZero]

I just got back from Gamescom, currently in my hotel room waiting for my legs and feet to stop hurting. I got a chance to speak to Jessica Merizan today but sadly I don’t have anything new to add to the thread. She mostly spoke about Dragon Age and showed me some concept art for it.

She also showed me some art from Leviathan. One picture looked very Arrival-esque, could’ve been the new Citadel area but I’m not sure. Another picture was of what looked like a cliffside with a lab or something built into it and loads of Harvesters in the sky which apparently cause explosions and such all around the level so you have to find different ways to get from A-B.

I also spoke to her about the ending and how I still hated it post-EC and despised the starbrat, all she said was ‘Play Leviathan and let me know how you feel’.

Hopefully I’ll be able to ask her some more questions at the community party tomorrow night, it was kind of difficult to hear her over the noise from the Crysis 3 and Need For Speed booths.

[TheConstantOne]

I've been thinking about the Reaper cycles and have had a thought: roughly every 50,000 years they attack but such attacks are always on species that are actively using mass relay technology. What if the Reapers are lured in by the dark energy pulses of the relays activating sort of like how bugs are drawn to light bulbs?

If this is true, then Crucible might work by blanketing the galaxy with a large dark energy burst to overload their detectors. I'm not sure if that would blind them, drive them insane, or both. But a fleet of blind Reapers could be beaten conventionally. Insane Reapers would, well, attack everything including each other which is still a superior tactical situation to what we have now. Thoughts on this?

[J the Speculator]

FFZero wrote...

I just got back from Gamescom, currently in my hotel room waiting for my legs and feet to stop hurting. I got a chance to speak to Jessica Merizan today but sadly I don’t have anything new to add to the thread. She mostly spoke about Dragon Age and showed me some concept art for it.

She also showed me some art from Leviathan. One picture looked very Arrival-esque, could’ve been the new Citadel area but I’m not sure. Another picture was of what looked like a cliffside with a lab or something built into it and loads of Harvesters in the sky which apparently cause explosions and such all around the level so you have to find different ways to get from A-B.

I also spoke to her about the ending and how I still hated it post-EC and despised the starbrat, all she said was ‘Play Leviathan and let me know how you feel’.

Hopefully I’ll be able to ask her some more questions at the community party tomorrow night, it was kind of difficult to hear her over the noise from the Crysis 3 and Need For Speed booths.

^this. this gives me some much needed hope.

[masster blaster]

I really got no speculations, as of right now. I will say however, that the Stargazer scene, is real, but something is off about that scene.

1. Why if in Synthesis, there are no glowing green stuff all over the place.

2.Why is the boy asking " When can I go to the stars." I thought in Synthesis, and Control, does not destroy technology as we know it, Also in Control, and Synthesis, why are the Reapers not around, or the Stargazer, is not telling the kid, that the Reapers are still around. In Control, and Synthesis they are, but why is the kid saying" Did that all really happen?", if it did.

3.Why does it look like they are in the dark ages. because a stargazer, studies the stars, and thinks about what is out there. My question is, why are there no vehicles/ space ships in the Control, Destroy, and Synthesis scene, at the end.If we can rebuild, then why is this cycles, into the future. I doubt Bioware would have missed this, but who knows.

4. " Well some of the DETAILS, where lost in time." Wait you don't know the full story on what really happened, to Shepard, and what happened, to the Reapers, and the galaxy's. And you have been telling a nine year old, about Shepard's story, all the way back to ME1.

Well That could explain, on why we have choices available,and why there is a female, and male Shepard because the Stargazer, does not really know that much about Shepard, or what happened. So he, or she, is either make this thing whole up, or the Stargazer, does not know which details, or archives, are true, and what really happened.

[CoolioThane]

FFZero wrote...

I just got back from Gamescom, currently in my hotel room waiting for my legs and feet to stop hurting. I got a chance to speak to Jessica Merizan today but sadly I don’t have anything new to add to the thread. She mostly spoke about Dragon Age and showed me some concept art for it.

She also showed me some art from Leviathan. One picture looked very Arrival-esque, could’ve been the new Citadel area but I’m not sure. Another picture was of what looked like a cliffside with a lab or something built into it and loads of Harvesters in the sky which apparently cause explosions and such all around the level so you have to find different ways to get from A-B.

I also spoke to her about the ending and how I still hated it post-EC and despised the starbrat, all she said was ‘Play Leviathan and let me know how you feel’.

Hopefully I’ll be able to ask her some more questions at the community party tomorrow night, it was kind of difficult to hear her over the noise from the Crysis 3 and Need For Speed booths.

That sounds very ****ing promising! Well done FF you legend 

This...has...made...me...excited...even...more!

[Leonia]

We have hope, more than we know.

Thanks for that update, FFZero!

[masster blaster]

CoolioThane wrote...

FFZero wrote...

I just got back from Gamescom, currently in my hotel room waiting for my legs and feet to stop hurting. I got a chance to speak to Jessica Merizan today but sadly I don’t have anything new to add to the thread. She mostly spoke about Dragon Age and showed me some concept art for it.

She also showed me some art from Leviathan. One picture looked very Arrival-esque, could’ve been the new Citadel area but I’m not sure. Another picture was of what looked like a cliffside with a lab or something built into it and loads of Harvesters in the sky which apparently cause explosions and such all around the level so you have to find different ways to get from A-B.

I also spoke to her about the ending and how I still hated it post-EC and despised the starbrat, all she said was ‘Play Leviathan and let me know how you feel’.

Hopefully I’ll be able to ask her some more questions at the community party tomorrow night, it was kind of difficult to hear her over the noise from the Crysis 3 and Need For Speed booths.

That sounds very ****ing promising! Well done FF you legend 

This...has...made...me...excited...even...more!

Coolio. i think there is some new scripts in the Leviathan dlc.

Think about this, if you got the EC, you have 80% of the script. Now if you get Earth, you get 85%, and then if you get the Weapons back, you get 90% of the leviathan script. Now what I am think, is that Bioware will add all of the script, once you get Leviathan, and then we will scene what will happen, at the end.

edit: Thanks FFZero, for the news.

Modifié par masster blaster, 17 août 2012 - 05:34 .

[CoolioThane]

wait, so in your opinion, masster...the Leviathan DLC will contain all of the script for the Leviathan DLC? I think you're right, bud

[paxxton]

"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe." - Carl Sagan

[masster blaster]

smokingotter1 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...
Yeah my interpretation is a bit of a downer, but I'm 100% sure it's real. But there is more DLC coming folks, it ain't over yet.

I have two competing thoughts:
1. The epilogues are just 100% reaper induced visions
2. Some of the epilogues are real

Let me explain. Remember when the Stargazer said some of the details are lost in time, that's a play on words. What's he's really saying is:

A.Shepard chooses destroy.
B. (Blackout??????????????) somehow he activates the crucible, details lost in time
C. Epilogues

The idea being that DLC builds on the blackout period where we start learning HOW in fact Shepard activated the crucible. That way for destroy the endings stay the same, but we get citadel missions to get to the crucible.

The Normandy landing on dream planet is fake though either way, it's representative of Shepard's mind, it's a contrast to the reaper nightmares of a dead forrest, it's the haven he creates in his mind.

Even when TIM/Saren were indoctrinated there was still a little bit of their personality left. In control and synthesis Shepard's mind is trapped on dream planet, in destroy he wakes up.

One more story.

Edit: Also I'm really grumpy today for some reason if that's why you say I'm bitter, think I need a nap.

No no, it's not how you wrote it.

On the one hand it does offer a nice way of keeping the endings as is, but only adding bits shortly before it. I agree with the Normandy landing being Shep's imagination. I especially like your comparison with the dead forest in the dreams vs. the very alive forest in the crash-landing.

It's bitter in the sense, that we'd be left with the final shot of Shepard being maybes alive, maybes not. I can only hope that we will find out about Liara or Garrus (if the epilogue slides are partially real).

The reason I came up with this POV view is because you have to see things through Harbinger's POV. Harbinger just wasted a bunch of humans (Harby does not miss a shot). 

Harby wants Shepard, but he won't take the chance of Shepard getting up to the beam unless he opens his mind and submits. If the reapers are going to give Shepard an overlay of reality you think they are going to make it fair? Hell no. The decison chamber is NOT FAIR at all, and it shouldn't be, it's a trap with each choice.

Also why the beam dries up in destroy/refuse, the beam is a way to get to the citadel, but it's also a trap. Once Shepard chooses destroy and Harbinger fails to indoctrinate Shepard there is no reason to keep the beam open.

I'm really looking forward to seeing who knocks out Harbinger.

Edit: Also why is synthesis only open with a high EMS. Because if you have a high EMS your Shepard has demonstrated through his/her decisions a desire to unite the galaxy. Synthesis is the representation of true unity, and is more and more tempting offer to your Shepard the more your Shepard unites the galaxy. No matter how stupid it sounds your Shepard has probably fought all over the galaxy to bring peace to everyone, he/she will be more desperate for a "perfect" answer.
 
Edit 2: And thus you have the epic ending to ME3, everyone ends on a low note, no one ends on a high note, the audience is left with more questions than answers, and it all ends on a cliff hanger. That's how you try to keep your fans hooked  on the story. That's why you all are here. Bioware: "see you all in a year for the conclusion" (parts paraphrased Jeremy Jahns Empire Strikes back youtube vid)

Otter, I have three theory's, that could keep Harbinger distracted, knocked out,

1.
Leviathan. You see if you get Leviathan, He goes to Earth, to stop
Harbinger, from killing Shepard, in the Destroy ending, now if you don't
have high EMS, then Leviathan is either late, in Low /Mid EMS Destroy and
dies. But in High EMS Leviathan manages to get to
Shepard, and fight Harbinger, so Shepard could wake up.

2. The
Normandy, if you don't have Leviathan, then the Normandy is fighting
Harbinger, while Shepard wakes up. if you have the Normandy fully
upgraded, and have high EMS, then the Normandy, will receive less
damage, and have nobody die, but if you have no upgrades, and have High
EMS, then the Normandy get's Destroyed by Harbinger, but allows Shepard
to fully wake up.


3. If not the Normandy, or leviathan, then
our War assets/ former squad, are attacking Harbinger, buying time for Shepard to wake up. If you have low or mid, then the rest of Hammer, is killed, and harbinger kills Shepard. If you have high EMS, then all of
hammer team hit's Harbinger, with everything they got.

This is only thing I can see happen, and if this real, and Shepard wakes up on the Citadel, then I have nothing more to say.

Modifié par masster blaster, 17 août 2012 - 06:00 .

[masster blaster]

CoolioThane wrote...

wait, so in your opinion, masster...the Leviathan DLC will contain all of the script for the Leviathan DLC? I think you're right, bud

Yes, but i forgot to say, that if you have the past dlc, that have the scripts. Then they added on more to the Leviathan dlc. Think about this, the game play is between 3, to 4 hrs. This is not to include, that what happence at then end, now that the Leviathan dlc, adds some more content at the end. What I am trying to say is, that they needed to move the Leviathan scripts onto the dlc, so that they can added the scenes/new places, and make some modifacations to the game it's self. But they did not give away all of the script to Leviathan just yet, They wanted us to speculate on the script, and when we think this happence, Bioware could have this other script that they have been saving.

I am just saying this could be the case.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe." - Carl Sagan

That is very true!

And hi paxx!


@FFZero:

Thanks a bunch for the update! And let's see if the thing about Leviathan is not only marketing for those few lines.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 17 août 2012 - 06:01 .

[Jere85]

Thanks FFZero, its still just speculation, but it gives the hope i need

[Drewton]

I'm guessing Leviathan will nullify the IT?

[CoolioThane]

Okay Masster, I think I understand

[masster blaster]

Drewton wrote...

I'm guessing Leviathan will nullify the IT?

I don't know, we have to wait and see, but we doubt this will happen, but who knows.

Modifié par masster blaster, 17 août 2012 - 06:13 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe." - Carl Sagan

That is very true!

And hi paxx!

Hi! There's currently a sequel to Carl Sagan's Cosmos series in the making due to air on FOX  in the Fall of 2013 or early 2014.

Modifié par paxxton, 17 août 2012 - 06:16 .

[Drewton]

masster blaster wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I'm guessing Leviathan will nullify the IT?

I don't know, we have to wait and see, but we doubt this will happen, but who knows.

I've read that (SPOILERS) the Catalyst is created by the Leviathans and can indeed control and synthesize the Reapers.

Modifié par Drewton, 17 août 2012 - 06:17 .

[masster blaster]

Drewton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I'm guessing Leviathan will nullify the IT?

I don't know, we have to wait and see, but we doubt this will happen, but who knows.

I've read that (SPOILERS) the Catalyst is created by the Leviathans and can indeed control and synthesize the Reapers.

You read the script didn't you, well if you did then maybe, but we have to wait and see for our selfs.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

FFZero wrote...

I just got back from Gamescom, currently in my hotel room waiting for my legs and feet to stop hurting. I got a chance to speak to Jessica Merizan today but sadly I don’t have anything new to add to the thread. She mostly spoke about Dragon Age and showed me some concept art for it.

She also showed me some art from Leviathan. One picture looked very Arrival-esque, could’ve been the new Citadel area but I’m not sure. Another picture was of what looked like a cliffside with a lab or something built into it and loads of Harvesters in the sky which apparently cause explosions and such all around the level so you have to find different ways to get from A-B.

I also spoke to her about the ending and how I still hated it post-EC and despised the starbrat, all she said was ‘Play Leviathan and let me know how you feel’.

Hopefully I’ll be able to ask her some more questions at the community party tomorrow night, it was kind of difficult to hear her over the noise from the Crysis 3 and Need For Speed booths.

That sounds very ****ing promising! Well done FF you legend 

This...has...made...me...excited...even...more!

Coolio. i think there is some new scripts in the Leviathan dlc.

Think about this, if you got the EC, you have 80% of the script. Now if you get Earth, you get 85%, and then if you get the Weapons back, you get 90% of the leviathan script. Now what I am think, is that Bioware will add all of the script, once you get Leviathan, and then we will scene what will happen, at the end.

edit: Thanks FFZero, for the news.

The Leviathan DLC will contain the leviathan script?! OMG WTF U SRS?!

[estebanus]

Drewton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I'm guessing Leviathan will nullify the IT?

I don't know, we have to wait and see, but we doubt this will happen, but who knows.

I've read that (SPOILERS) the Catalyst is created by the Leviathans and can indeed control and synthesize the Reapers.

Where exactly did you read that?

Because I'm pretty sure that the EC files say that the first true reaper was Harbinger.

Modifié par estebanus, 17 août 2012 - 06:22 .

[Drewton]

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

Modifié par Drewton, 17 août 2012 - 06:23 .

[estebanus]

Drewton wrote...

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

But the EC files say that the first reaper was Harbinger. How can the leviathans have created the reapers if that indeed were the case?

Here's a link to the thread made by TSA: http://social.biowar.../index/13557262

Modifié par estebanus, 17 août 2012 - 06:28 .

[Drewton]

(SPOILERS)

The Leviathans are supposedly harvested into Harbinger. Maybe it can mean the first harvested Reaper?

I'm really let down, I was a big supporter of the IT.

Modifié par Drewton, 17 août 2012 - 06:30 .