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[Drewton]

LEVIATHAN spoiler warning, to go back to a point from a couple of pages back with a better answer...

estebanus wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

But the EC files say that the first reaper was Harbinger. How can the leviathans have created the reapers if that indeed were the case?

Here's a link to the thread made by TSA: http://social.biowar.../index/13557262

In the EC, the starchild says about the creators: "They became the first Reaper. They did not approve, but it was the only solution."

[demersel]

Drewton wrote...

LEVIATHAN spoiler warning, to go back to a point from a couple of pages back with a better answer...

estebanus wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

But the EC files say that the first reaper was Harbinger. How can the leviathans have created the reapers if that indeed were the case?

Here's a link to the thread made by TSA: http://social.biowar.../index/13557262

In the EC, the starchild says about the creators: "They became the first Reaper. They did not approve, but it was the only solution."

If they became the FIRST REAPER, then, who made them to, despite they didn't approved? Who turned them into the first reaper? And how? The harvest is the way of reaper reproduction, but if there were no reapers how can they reproduce, or make someone become a reaper? 

I call bull$@#t

Modifié par demersel, 17 août 2012 - 09:26 .

[spotlessvoid]

The Catalyst: I call bull****

Yeah, sums my feelings up

[Drewton]

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...

LEVIATHAN spoiler warning, to go back to a point from a couple of pages back with a better answer...

estebanus wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

But the EC files say that the first reaper was Harbinger. How can the leviathans have created the reapers if that indeed were the case?

Here's a link to the thread made by TSA: http://social.biowar.../index/13557262

In the EC, the starchild says about the creators: "They became the first Reaper. They did not approve, but it was the only solution."

If they became the FIRST REAPER, then, who made them to, despite they didn't approved? Who turned them into the first reaper? And how? The harvest is the way of reaper reproduction, but if there were no reapers how can they reproduce, or make someone become a reaper? 

I call bull$@#t

Everything about it is ridiculous, but in the literal version of the story, this is a fact according to Starchild. The dialogue is already there, and not just in game files. He also says "The Reapers are a synthetic representation of my creators."

So (spoilers) this makes sense if the Leviathan looks like an organic version of a Reaper.

Modifié par Drewton, 17 août 2012 - 09:31 .

[demersel]

Drewton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...

LEVIATHAN spoiler warning, to go back to a point from a couple of pages back with a better answer...

estebanus wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

But the EC files say that the first reaper was Harbinger. How can the leviathans have created the reapers if that indeed were the case?

Here's a link to the thread made by TSA: http://social.biowar.../index/13557262

In the EC, the starchild says about the creators: "They became the first Reaper. They did not approve, but it was the only solution."

If they became the FIRST REAPER, then, who made them to, despite they didn't approved? Who turned them into the first reaper? And how? The harvest is the way of reaper reproduction, but if there were no reapers how can they reproduce, or make someone become a reaper? 

I call bull$@#t

Everything about it is ridiculous, but in the literal version of the story, this is a fact according to Starchild. The dialogue is already there, and not just in game files. He also says "The Reapers are a synthetic representation of my creators."

So (spoilers) this makes sense if the Leviathan looks like an organic version of a Reaper.

If it looks like a reaper, talks like a reaper, indoctrinates like a reaper (which it all does very much so) - chances are high IT IS a reaper. ))))

[spotlessvoid]

http://social.biowar.../index/12095388

Demersel this is Arians theory on Reaper Origins

[MaximizedAction]

It's funny how the main interest here, now isn't our LI or squadmates or friends or even fellow organics of the galaxy anymore, it's the Reapers now, the Catalyst and the Leviathan.

The initially greatest enemy of the galaxy, the one that everyone was so focused on defeating has now become the focus of study.

TIM would approve of this!
Vigil, not so much.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 17 août 2012 - 09:37 .

[Drewton]

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...

LEVIATHAN spoiler warning, to go back to a point from a couple of pages back with a better answer...

estebanus wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I've just read on these forums exactly that that's what going to happen based on what's been leaked.

I wouldn't be surprised, the DLC is supposed to reveal more on the Reaper's origins.

But the EC files say that the first reaper was Harbinger. How can the leviathans have created the reapers if that indeed were the case?

Here's a link to the thread made by TSA: http://social.biowar.../index/13557262

In the EC, the starchild says about the creators: "They became the first Reaper. They did not approve, but it was the only solution."

If they became the FIRST REAPER, then, who made them to, despite they didn't approved? Who turned them into the first reaper? And how? The harvest is the way of reaper reproduction, but if there were no reapers how can they reproduce, or make someone become a reaper? 

I call bull$@#t

Everything about it is ridiculous, but in the literal version of the story, this is a fact according to Starchild. The dialogue is already there, and not just in game files. He also says "The Reapers are a synthetic representation of my creators."

So (spoilers) this makes sense if the Leviathan looks like an organic version of a Reaper.

If it looks like a reaper, talks like a reaper, indoctrinates like a reaper (which it all does very much so) - chances are high IT IS a reaper. ))))

Hopefully, but still, not in the literal version where Starchild tells you the truth.

[demersel]

spotlessvoid wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12095388

Demersel this is Arians theory on Reaper Origins

No, this is wrong, boring and uninspiring. )))

Reaper are really the the product of evolution of some parasitic micro fungus or moss - they are not even intelligent to begin with. )))

[demersel]

Drewton wrote...
Hopefully, but still, not in the literal version where Starchild tells you the truth.

I'm sorry, did you just use the words "starchild" and "truth" in the same sentence?    


P.S. Really people! This "Starchild tells the true origin of reapers" debate looks like trying to talking about the biography and origin of the Joker from "The Dark Night", using his stories about the scars as clues to his real identity. 

Modifié par demersel, 17 août 2012 - 09:42 .

[Drewton]

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...
Hopefully, but still, not in the literal version where Starchild tells you the truth.

I'm sorry, did you just use the words "starchild" and "truth" in the same sentence? 

Drewton wrote...
in the literal version where Starchild tells you the truth.

 

[spotlessvoid]

Maximized...another meta gameplay element? Wait, what if Mass Effect is an indoctrination signal and the Reapers are fo real?

Michelle: Barrack, I'm a Reaper doomsday device
Barrack: Oh, shi....

[demersel]

Drewton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...
Hopefully, but still, not in the literal version where Starchild tells you the truth.

I'm sorry, did you just use the words "starchild" and "truth" in the same sentence? 

Drewton wrote...
in the literal version where Starchild tells you the truth.

 

Wrong - in the literal version the starchild says: "My creators? you wouldn't know them, they became the firts reaper, the didn't want to... bla-bla, anyway it's not important, choose one of 3!"   

If you're so eager to be literal - why did you ignore the part when he says "it is not important."? 

Modifié par demersel, 17 août 2012 - 09:46 .

[Simon_Says]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12095388

Demersel this is Arians theory on Reaper Origins

No, this is wrong, boring and uninspiring. )))

Reaper are really the the product of evolution of some parasitic micro fungus or moss - they are not even intelligent to begin with. )))

lolwut?

[demersel]

Simon_Says wrote...

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12095388

Demersel this is Arians theory on Reaper Origins

No, this is wrong, boring and uninspiring. )))

Reaper are really the the product of evolution of some parasitic micro fungus or moss - they are not even intelligent to begin with. )))

lolwut?

True story. Somewhere in the old thread i mde a very long and detailed post outlining their possible origin. Initially they were some fungus or bacteria with one need - to feed - and one ability - to indoctrinate and subvert. Reapers are really not even sentient. ))

[Big_Boss9]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12095388

Demersel this is Arians theory on Reaper Origins

No, this is wrong, boring and uninspiring. )))

Reaper are really the the product of evolution of some parasitic micro fungus or moss - they are not even intelligent to begin with. )))

I assume you're joking, but if not, I may not agree with all of Arian's theories and speculations, but his work, as it were, is anything but boring or uninspired. In fact, I'd say quite the opposite.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 17 août 2012 - 09:50 .

[Leonia]

demersel wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12095388

Demersel this is Arians theory on Reaper Origins

No, this is wrong, boring and uninspiring. )))

Reaper are really the the product of evolution of some parasitic micro fungus or moss - they are not even intelligent to begin with. )))

lolwut?

True story. Somewhere in the old thread i mde a very long and detailed post outlining their possible origin. Initially they were some fungus or bacteria with one need - to feed - and one ability - to indoctrinate and subvert. Reapers are really not even sentient. ))

Was this theory backed by substantial evidence or like your quip to me on the previous page did it materialise from seemingly no where?

[estebanus]

leonia42 wrote...


Was this theory backed by substantial evidence or like your quip to me on the previous page did it materialise from seemingly no where?

I assume it's the latter.

[demersel]

leonia42 wrote...

Was this theory backed by substantial evidence or like your quip to me on the previous page did it materialise from seemingly no where?

Yes it was. It also use logic and imagination. 

[estebanus]

demersel wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Was this theory backed by substantial evidence or like your quip to me on the previous page did it materialise from seemingly no where?

Yes it was. It also use logic and imagination. 

Uhm... Doesn't logic and imagination contradict one another?

[demersel]

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Was this theory backed by substantial evidence or like your quip to me on the previous page did it materialise from seemingly no where?

Yes it was. It also use logic and imagination. 

Uhm... Doesn't logic and imagination contradict one another?

uhm... No?  

[Hrothdane]

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Was this theory backed by substantial evidence or like your quip to me on the previous page did it materialise from seemingly no where?

Yes it was. It also use logic and imagination. 

Uhm... Doesn't logic and imagination contradict one another?

Not necessarily. Logic is like a network of roads. Imagination is the ability to see a route through that network that no one else sees.

Modifié par Hrothdane, 17 août 2012 - 10:08 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

Hey Drewton.



"We've met before, haven't we?"

Anyway, I'm reserving judgement until Leviathan is out. I'm pretty sure we don't know the whole story.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 17 août 2012 - 10:09 .

[masster blaster]

I will come back after this conversation is over. Back to playing WoW.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

I will come back after this conversation is over. Back to playing WoW.

You... weren't here to begin with.