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ZerebusPrime wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

What is new guys?


Shameless self promotion.

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Talking to Kaidan at Huerta Memorial provided a minor clue:
Kaidan: "People near death say their lives flash before their eyes. Well, the future flashed for me."

The future. Really. You don't say.

 


Sounds like if you let time run out in arrival

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N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

What is new guys?

Not much. In case you missed it, there was some discussion about a reaper horn when TIM is indoctrinating controlling you. There was an interesting Kaidan line on the last page I think. Also, Estebanus and FFzero talked to Jessica Merizan and Chris Priestly about their opinions of IT. They both said they like it, and apparently Chris has a "playthrough dedicated to it." Also, Jessica said she wants people who didn't like the ending to play Leviathan. Posted Image


That last part was very intresting, something Ive been wondering about leviathan is, if I play it before priority rannoch, would the diologe change in some way with that reaper? Hmm well can't wait :D

Yeah, I would imagine it may change a lot of dialogue actually. Personally, I'll be playing it from right before chronos station, so let me know if it does. I also wonder what happens to the endings if you have Leviathan but not the extended cut. Posted Image

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N7L4D wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

What is new guys?


Shameless self promotion.

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Talking to Kaidan at Huerta Memorial provided a minor clue:
Kaidan: "People near death say their lives flash before their eyes. Well, the future flashed for me."

The future. Really. You don't say.

 


Sounds like if you let time run out in arrival

Or the end of ME3 Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

What is new guys?

Not much. In case you missed it, there was some discussion about a reaper horn when TIM is indoctrinating controlling you. There was an interesting Kaidan line on the last page I think. Also, Estebanus and FFzero talked to Jessica Merizan and Chris Priestly about their opinions of IT. They both said they like it, and apparently Chris has a "playthrough dedicated to it." Also, Jessica said she wants people who didn't like the ending to play Leviathan. Posted Image


That last part was very intresting, something Ive been wondering about leviathan is, if I play it before priority rannoch, would the diologe change in some way with that reaper? Hmm well can't wait :D

Yeah, I would imagine it may change a lot of dialogue actually. Personally, I'll be playing it from right before chronos station, so let me know if it does. I also wonder what happens to the endings if you have Leviathan but not the extended cut. Posted Image


IIRC, Gamble said that if you have the EC, you'll get some additional dialogue with the Catalyst. Can't imagine why someone would purchase a DLC and not download the previous free one, but anything's possible. :lol:

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IIRC, Gamble said that if you have the EC, you'll get some additional dialogue with the Catalyst. Can't imagine why someone would purchase a DLC and not download the previous free one, but anything's possible. :lol:

Yeah, I don't know. So you think it won't do anything if you don't have EC?

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Probably, yeah. You'll simply miss out on the extra dialogue.

I don't see them still supporting the old ending.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

What is new guys?


Shameless self promotion.

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Talking to Kaidan at Huerta Memorial provided a minor clue:
Kaidan: "People near death say their lives flash before their eyes. Well, the future flashed for me."

The future. Really. You don't say.

 


Sounds like if you let time run out in arrival

Or the end of ME3 Posted Image


that too:Don a side note using a computer makes things alot easier to quote stuff correctlty i may add lol

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Probably, yeah. You'll simply miss out on the extra dialogue.

I don't see them still supporting the old ending.

Yeah, that makes sense.

@N7L4D I would imagine. Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 18 août 2012 - 02:49 .


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I sorta wish there was a troll to debate with. It would make the thread faster and there would be something to talk about that is on topic. *sigh*

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lol, careful what you wish for.

Oh I get it now, you want to know what Hanar thinks of the Reaper horn. =P

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 18 août 2012 - 03:05 .


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@BansheeOwnage yeah but computer is still slow lol, i was going back a few pages reading stuff, what do you make of the supposed leviathan leak? posted by drewton i think

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TJBartlemus wrote...

I sorta wish there was a troll to debate with. It would make the thread faster and there would be something to talk about that is on topic. *sigh*

We were on topic. Posted Image Anyway, I prefer peace and "quiet" to "debating" with a troll.

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@BansheeOwnage yeah but computer is still slow lol, i was going back a few pages reading stuff, what do you make of the supposed leviathan leak? posted by drewton i think

Well, I'm actually staying clear of the leaks now, seeing as we have a release date to look foward to. Sorry :/
Regardless, from what I accidentally read, it seems there was something about how if the Starkid is telling the truth about the reapers it kills IT. I don't see how though, if that was indeed the debate. Again, I didn't read it.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

I sorta wish there was a troll to debate with. It would make the thread faster and there would be something to talk about that is on topic. *sigh*


"How is this topic still going? IT is dead, rabble rabble rabble."

Did that help? :lol:

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 18 août 2012 - 03:10 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I sorta wish there was a troll to debate with. It would make the thread faster and there would be something to talk about that is on topic. *sigh*

We were on topic. Posted Image Anyway, I prefer peace and "quiet" to "debating" with a troll.


I know. I was refering to that when it gets slow we generally go off topic. :blush:

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lol, careful what you wish for.

Oh I get it now, you want to know what Hanar thinks of the Reaper horn. =P


I've set quite a few traps in debates before but no this is not one. :blush: I really don't care what we debate about...I just want to debate for the sake of debating with anyone. If it's a troll it is just a bonus. 

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I added new "A Practical Look at..." sections to my thesis. For parts 1-3, these section make up the second half. Looking for some feedback.

http://social.biowar...9372/1#13419372

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

@BansheeOwnage yeah but computer is still slow lol, i was going back a few pages reading stuff, what do you make of the supposed leviathan leak? posted by drewton i think

Well, I'm actually staying clear of the leaks now, seeing as we have a release date to look foward to. Sorry :/
Regardless, from what I accidentally read, it seems there was something about how if the Starkid is telling the truth about the reapers it kills IT. I don't see how though, if that was indeed the debate. Again, I didn't read it.


hahaha well i accidently read all of it, still confused, so i guess it doesnt count as a spoiler for me unless i try to make sense of it, but i probably wont haha

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TJBartlemus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

lol, careful what you wish for.

Oh I get it now, you want to know what Hanar thinks of the Reaper horn. =P


I've set quite a few traps in debates before but no this is not one. :blush: I really don't care what we debate about...I just want to debate for the sake of debating with anyone. If it's a troll it is just a bonus. 

I could try to argue something you bring up from a literal view. Or try to disprove evidence. Try it, let's see how it goes.

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N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

@BansheeOwnage yeah but computer is still slow lol, i was going back a few pages reading stuff, what do you make of the supposed leviathan leak? posted by drewton i think

Well, I'm actually staying clear of the leaks now, seeing as we have a release date to look foward to. Sorry :/
Regardless, from what I accidentally read, it seems there was something about how if the Starkid is telling the truth about the reapers it kills IT. I don't see how though, if that was indeed the debate. Again, I didn't read it.


hahaha well i accidently read all of it, still confused, so i guess it doesnt count as a spoiler for me unless i try to make sense of it, but i probably wont haha

To be honest, no one really knows much about Leviathan anyway. We've heard seemingly contradictory things from the leaks, and that the kid has more lines. That's about it. We'll have to wait to actually make sense of it all. Still, Jessica's comment about how we should wait until Leviathan and reconsider the endings is interesting. In hindsight, I am actually amazed no one expected an IT reveal in Leviathan. It would be halarious if they did a semi-fake script leak, just to convince even the ITers that it isn't a reveal, then reveal it without anyone expecting it. I don't know, but I sure hope so! Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

lol, careful what you wish for.

Oh I get it now, you want to know what Hanar thinks of the Reaper horn. =P


I've set quite a few traps in debates before but no this is not one. :blush: I really don't care what we debate about...I just want to debate for the sake of debating with anyone. If it's a troll it is just a bonus. 

I could try to argue something you bring up from a literal view. Or try to disprove evidence. Try it, let's see how it goes.


You encouraging me to be a troll?!?! WHY not? From right now until I say I am now my alter ego JT the troll master. :devil: Just give me a moment to get some questions/arguements together. 

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

@BansheeOwnage yeah but computer is still slow lol, i was going back a few pages reading stuff, what do you make of the supposed leviathan leak? posted by drewton i think

Well, I'm actually staying clear of the leaks now, seeing as we have a release date to look foward to. Sorry :/
Regardless, from what I accidentally read, it seems there was something about how if the Starkid is telling the truth about the reapers it kills IT. I don't see how though, if that was indeed the debate. Again, I didn't read it.


hahaha well i accidently read all of it, still confused, so i guess it doesnt count as a spoiler for me unless i try to make sense of it, but i probably wont haha

To be honest, no one really knows much about Leviathan anyway. We've heard seemingly contradictory things from the leaks, and that the kid has more lines. That's about it. We'll have to wait to actually make sense of it all. Still, Jessica's comment about how we should wait until Leviathan and reconsider the endings is interesting. In hindsight, I am actually amazed no one expected an IT reveal in Leviathan. It would be halarious if they did a semi-fake script leak, just to convince even the ITers that it isn't a reveal, then reveal it without anyone expecting it. I don't know, but I sure hope so! Posted Image


that would be great, i think most who post in the thread would agree, i did have dream just the other night that it happend, werid :lol:

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TJBartlemus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

lol, careful what you wish for.

Oh I get it now, you want to know what Hanar thinks of the Reaper horn. =P


I've set quite a few traps in debates before but no this is not one. :blush: I really don't care what we debate about...I just want to debate for the sake of debating with anyone. If it's a troll it is just a bonus. 

I could try to argue something you bring up from a literal view. Or try to disprove evidence. Try it, let's see how it goes.


You encouraging me to be a troll?!?! WHY not? From right now until I say I am now my alter ego JT the troll master. :devil: Just give me a moment to get some questions/arguements together. 




did someone say troll!:o

so uh guys this is who created the reapers actually

www.youtube.com/watch

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 The endings are clearly either badly written or are purposely written to cause speculation but not to impliment IT. IT just makes the endings even worse than they are and is just a major insult to BioWare with all their work on the game. If the endings were to impliment IT and have Shepard not have done anything in the RW would cause BioWare to become liars. They promised us an end to the trilogy and the end to Shepard's story. The only way to end the trilogy is to end the Reaper threat. The only way to end Shepard's story is for him/her to die. With IT these two don't happen and BioWare could be potentially sued. Effectively the IT is almost like a retcon device in the RW plot. It would mean that we have yet to make a final confronation, the Reapers are still a threat and that would mean the series is not done. BioWare even went on to say they won't change the endings. Even an "Arrival" type DLC is unlikely. Why create a DLC to spoil the plot for ME4? Why even connect the games? It would be a new series with a new plot. Connecting doesn't seem logical. 

If IT was true and was to be the plot of ME4, why would they do that? Definitely not enough plot for an entire game. No an entire new plot would be needed to be successful. 

- JT the Troll Master :devil:

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N7L4D wrote...

did someone say troll!:o

so uh guys this is who created the reapers actually

www.youtube.com/watch

Everyone knows the reapers are trollin' you!