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[ZerebusPrime]

A form of Synthesis IS inevitable.... if a sapient species lives and progresses long enough. But it takes a tremendous amount of progression over spans of time that are not easily quantified and happens in steps. And if you skip to the end like the Starbrat tells you to, if you skip those all important steps, calamity is all but assured. The species in question will simply not be ready.

[plfranke]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

@spotlessvoid no I don't think it's just PR, it was the one of the first things I thought about they tried to do, and I believe it. You can read some of my older posts. I usually gave it the benefit of doubt that it might be literal, even though I think it is indoctrination.
All in all you can clearly say the first part after beaming up is, but you can just guess if the second part (the one with the Guardian) is too. I mean the first part is pretty straight forward, but for the second part you just can't tell.

hmmm megumi your posts just don't sound like you. I find it difficult to believe you're the same person who normally posts on here.

[plfranke]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

A form of Synthesis IS inevitable.... if a sapient species lives and progresses long enough. But it takes a tremendous amount of progression over spans of time that are not easily quantified and happens in steps. And if you skip to the end like the Starbrat tells you to, if you skip those all important steps, calamity is all but assured. The species in question will simply not be ready.

how the hell would you know that?

[munnellyladt]

 

Guy's this is completly unrelated but When I found it I just had to show this to you.
This maybe is what some of you want to do after reading FFZero's post.
And if Casey is reading...I'm sure he would laugh at this to. 

[MaximizedAction]

plfranke wrote...
Apparently it's not up to the player because no matter what you decide synthesis is inevitable. Who the hell came up with that idea?

About that...

the way the outcome of Synthesis was portraid in the EC wasn't that horrible, it seems actually quite science fiction-y. My biggest problem with Synthesis however is, and has been pre-EC, is that it's forced, and by that unnatural. I don't care how 'powerful' and 'all knowing' the Guardian is, he is not a purely natural force, and I don't believe that anything can become such a thing (in other terms, a god). THAT Bioware has to keep in mind that players differ in these matters.

And so, even if Synthesis is inevitable, so is the cosmic thermodynamical equilibrium, but it doesn't mean that we now 'have to' force that by detonating every star.

So, would I them have been happy if they instead introduced a time machine that forced me to live in the future where Synthesis is reached, then? No...SO DROP THE SYNTHYPOP!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 19 août 2012 - 01:06 .

[DJBare]

plfranke wrote...
Apparently it's not up to the player because no matter what you decide synthesis is inevitable. Who the hell came up with that idea?

This is where "I don't get it"; fine, despite being morally repugnant I choose it, then I see the plants are syntheised, errr what, does this mean we can water the plants with battery acid now?

[MegumiAzusa]

plfranke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

@spotlessvoid no I don't think it's just PR, it was the one of the first things I thought about they tried to do, and I believe it. You can read some of my older posts. I usually gave it the benefit of doubt that it might be literal, even though I think it is indoctrination.
All in all you can clearly say the first part after beaming up is, but you can just guess if the second part (the one with the Guardian) is too. I mean the first part is pretty straight forward, but for the second part you just can't tell.

hmmm megumi your posts just don't sound like you. I find it difficult to believe you're the same person who normally posts on here.

Uhm no it's me. And I definitely posted more than once that I could see both, but I still stick with indoctrination because it fits better, at least for me.

[plfranke]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

plfranke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

@spotlessvoid no I don't think it's just PR, it was the one of the first things I thought about they tried to do, and I believe it. You can read some of my older posts. I usually gave it the benefit of doubt that it might be literal, even though I think it is indoctrination.
All in all you can clearly say the first part after beaming up is, but you can just guess if the second part (the one with the Guardian) is too. I mean the first part is pretty straight forward, but for the second part you just can't tell.

hmmm megumi your posts just don't sound like you. I find it difficult to believe you're the same person who normally posts on here.

Uhm no it's me. And I definitely posted more than once that I could see both, but I still stick with indoctrination because it fits better, at least for me.

I'm not talking about your opinion on IT I'm talking about your writing style, it's very different than how it normally is.

[Simon_Says]

Reposting for great justice. Hold the line. Not to Bioware's sake but for the sake of the dedicated fans who demanded a good story, and came up with one on their own.

Also, PLFranke, I don't know why or if it's intentional but you're sullying the place with negative waves and instead of providing constructive criticism you're treading on people's toes and generally being an arrogant ass. Please cut it out.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 19 août 2012 - 01:05 .

[estebanus]

munnellyladt wrote...

 

Guy's this is completly unrelated but When I found it I just had to show this to you.
This maybe is what some of you want to do after reading FFZero's post.
And if Casey is reading...I'm sure he would laugh at this to. 

You know, Casey actually is a pretty nice person, even though you may not like him for the endings. I've had the pleasure of talking with him a few years ago, and he really is an awesome guy to talk with.

[munnellyladt]

MaximizedAction wrote...

^ LOL! But please, lets not get back to the Casey hate...that is just sooo March!

plfranke wrote...
Apparently it's not up to the player because no matter what you decide synthesis is inevitable. Who the hell came up with that idea?

About that...

the way the outcome of Synthesis was portraid in the EC wasn't that horrible, it seems actually quite science fiction-y. My biggest problem with Synthesis however is, and has been pre-EC, is that it's forced, and by that unnatural. I don't care how 'powerful' and 'all knowing' the Guardian is, he is not a purely natural force, and I don't believe that anything can become such a thing (in other terms, a god). THAT Bioware has to keep in mind that players differ in these matters.

And so, even if Synthesis is inevitable, so is the cosmic thermodynamical equilibrium, but it doesn't mean that we now 'have to' force that by detonating every star.

So, would I them have been happy if they instead introduced a time machine that forced me to live in the future where Synthesis is reached, then? No...SO DROP THE SYNTHYPOP!

I still don't get why bioware are standing by synthesis.

IT'S THE REAPERS GOAL!!!!

[Arkennys]

I'm behind on the thread and won't have the time to read up for a few days yet, so sorry if this was already posted.

http://www.reddit.co...ty_manager_for/

Some great stuff. Certainly nothing relevant or important, but it's a good read. Two picks from Chris Priestly.

Fredvdp
In Mass Effect 1 it was established that the Reapers shut down the relay network in previous cycles so everyone was isolated (said by Vigil). Why did previous generations build the Crucible, a device that requires active relays, when they couldn't deploy it? If they built it during their cycle, how did everyone get there and how did they move it to the Citadel?

Chris
Space wizards

jayearls
How does it feel knowing I pirate your games since EA is garbage along with Bioware.

Chris
I'm comforted in knowing you have learned to interact socially over the internet, which will save everyone the time of learning to hate you in person.

[plfranke]

DJBare wrote...

plfranke wrote...
Apparently it's not up to the player because no matter what you decide synthesis is inevitable. Who the hell came up with that idea?

This is where "I don't get it"; fine, despite being morally repugnant I choose it, then I see the plants are syntheised, errr what, does this mean we can water the plants with battery acid now?

exactly. what is the extent of synthesis? this is where the ending truly fails. even if this was their big ending and the way they wanted to go out on the trilogy there should have been way more detail involved. does everyone share thoughts now? there are so many questions and absolutely no answers

[ZerebusPrime]

plfranke wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

A form of Synthesis IS inevitable.... if a sapient species lives and progresses long enough. But it takes a tremendous amount of progression over spans of time that are not easily quantified and happens in steps. And if you skip to the end like the Starbrat tells you to, if you skip those all important steps, calamity is all but assured. The species in question will simply not be ready.

how the hell would you know that?

Because I'm smart.  

Look, I'm talking fully integrated cyborgs and protein based technology, not whatever the heck we see in the ME3 ending.

[munnellyladt]

estebanus wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

 

Guy's this is completly unrelated but When I found it I just had to show this to you.
This maybe is what some of you want to do after reading FFZero's post.
And if Casey is reading...I'm sure he would laugh at this to. 

You know, Casey actually is a pretty nice person, even though you may not like him for the endings. I've had the pleasure of talking with him a few years ago, and he really is an awesome guy to talk with.

No,I mean no offence by this,I like Casey regardless of the ending.
I just thought this thread could do with some lol's.
That's not so bad is it?

[DJBare]

plfranke wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

A form of Synthesis IS inevitable.... if a sapient species lives and progresses long enough. But it takes a tremendous amount of progression over spans of time that are not easily quantified and happens in steps. And if you skip to the end like the Starbrat tells you to, if you skip those all important steps, calamity is all but assured. The species in question will simply not be ready.

how the hell would you know that?

We are already heading in that direction despite it being primitive by ME3 standards, artificial implants, pace makers, all that kind of thing, but I agree with Prime, it's jumping the evolutionary process in ME3 which not could but would be disastrous, "We learn by doing"

[MaximizedAction]

estebanus wrote...
You know, Casey actually is a pretty nice person, even though you may not like him for the endings. I've had the pleasure of talking with him a few years ago, and he really is an awesome guy to talk with.

And I have the biggest respect for him for what he and his team accomplished by establishing a whole sci fi franchise that is so rich and able to stand on its own feet for more than just one title.

But I guess people just pick someone to get the grief out. But while they seem funny from time to time, they of course can be consifered personal attacks, which of course unacceptable. In fact, I shall edit my previous post.

[MegumiAzusa]

plfranke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

plfranke wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

@spotlessvoid no I don't think it's just PR, it was the one of the first things I thought about they tried to do, and I believe it. You can read some of my older posts. I usually gave it the benefit of doubt that it might be literal, even though I think it is indoctrination.
All in all you can clearly say the first part after beaming up is, but you can just guess if the second part (the one with the Guardian) is too. I mean the first part is pretty straight forward, but for the second part you just can't tell.

hmmm megumi your posts just don't sound like you. I find it difficult to believe you're the same person who normally posts on here.

Uhm no it's me. And I definitely posted more than once that I could see both, but I still stick with indoctrination because it fits better, at least for me.

I'm not talking about your opinion on IT I'm talking about your writing style, it's very different than how it normally is.

Uhm that could be the beer I had ^^;

[plfranke]

Arkennys wrote...

I'm behind on the thread and won't have the time to read up for a few days yet, so sorry if this was already posted.

http://www.reddit.co...ty_manager_for/

Some great stuff. Certainly nothing relevant or important, but it's a good read. Two picks from Chris Priestly.

Fredvdp
In Mass Effect 1 it was established that the Reapers shut down the relay network in previous cycles so everyone was isolated (said by Vigil). Why did previous generations build the Crucible, a device that requires active relays, when they couldn't deploy it? If they built it during their cycle, how did everyone get there and how did they move it to the Citadel?

Chris
Space wizards

jayearls
How does it feel knowing I pirate your games since EA is garbage along with Bioware.

Chris
I'm comforted in knowing you have learned to interact socially over the internet, which will save everyone the time of learning to hate you in person.

I think the first answer although meant as a deflection is just showing that there really are no answers to some of the big plot holes in the story. It's just bad writing.

[TJBartlemus]

munnellyladt wrote...

estebanus wrote...
You know, Casey actually is a pretty nice person, even though you may not like him for the endings. I've had the pleasure of talking with him a few years ago, and he really is an awesome guy to talk with.

No,I mean no offence by this,I like Casey regardless of the ending.
I just thought this thread could do with some lol's.
That's not so bad is it?

LOL. Even if you hate Casey (Which I don't.) you got to respect him. He is pretty much the George Lucas of the modern sci-fi genre of videogames. Mass Effect is this generations equivalent to Star Wars. That deserves respect no matter who you are. 

[smokingotter1]

Let's knock off the Casey Hudson bashing folks, if my overlay theory is correct we are all in for a treat.

[ZerebusPrime]

Ok, fully caught up reading the thread from where I left off.

I am now wholly unenthusiastic.

...

I think I may need a new hobby.

[DJBare]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

...

I think I may need a new hobby.

Huh, I thought reading forums were a hobby, *sighs* looks like I have to find a real hobby now.

[MaximizedAction]

TJBartlemus wrote...

LOL. Even if you hate Casey (Which I don't.) you got to respect him. He is pretty much the George Lucas of the modern sci-fi genre of videogames. Mass Effect is this generations equivalent to Star Wars. That deserves respect no matter who you are.

Remember tweeting that to him weeks before ME3 came out. Still stand by my tweet.

Well, if it helps, he recently was quoted saying that there's "LOTS more to come" for Mass Effect.

[DJBare]

TJBartlemus wrote...

LOL. Even if you hate Casey (Which I don't.) you got to respect him. He is pretty much the George Lucas of the modern sci-fi genre of videogames. Mass Effect is this generations equivalent to Star Wars. That deserves respect no matter who you are. 

Hmm, I have to say Casey is closer to Rodenberry than Lucas, but I guess that's because ME3 is a space soap opera.