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[paxxton]

CoolioThane wrote...

demersel wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

I asked earlier about Anderson mentioning the reapers planning something big in London. Specifically, when it took place. Because if it was before Thessia it would have been proof that the reapers were planning the events of Priority: Earth with the beam and such even before they could have had knowledge from Vendetta about the Crucible or the Catalyst.

I found this post from Masster. He implies it's before Thessia. The dialogue also suggests that.

"Unite And Subvert" theory confirmed I think.

Anyway I'm out for the night. Laters.

So true! And don't forget, GLYPH is evil!

+1

It could also explain why the crucible plans were still in Liara's message, as Glyph was the VI in the capsule...perhaps trying to trick future cycles...? PRobably not actually

Remember that the people of the Universe had no way of knowing what happened on the Citadel so for them the Crucible didn't work presumably because Shepard had failed.

[CoolioThane]

RED IS EVIL Doomsday

EVIL

Look at Manchester United v Manchester City

Obviously United are EVIL because they are RED

Those people are idiots, man. You're right

[estebanus]

CoolioThane wrote...

RED IS EVIL Doomsday

EVIL

Look at Manchester United v Manchester City

Obviously United are EVIL because they are RED

Those people are idiots, man. You're right

Red is my favourite colour!

[paxxton]

Doomsday, no one talked TIM into shooting himself because he wanted to control the Reapers. There was no other dialogue option so it was forced.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 août 2012 - 12:20 .

[firstarioch]

hello ...havent been on Bioware forums since they closed our :
so we cant get the ending we want after all ----thread....

Since the extended ending fiasco which for me is even worse than the original ending..( eerie green eyes on everyone ...!!! its like they got ZOMBified !!!
Bioware misjudged the ending so much this has to be the worse misjudged ending ever to vieogame or film !!!

Anyway has anyone played Leviathan Yet ?? does it change this Mush we got into anything less crappy ?

Modifié par firstarioch, 19 août 2012 - 12:31 .

[SubAstris]

Dusen wrote...

I'm certain this has been brought up multiple times in the past couple thousand pages that this thread and it's successors have been open, but I've always had problems with the presentation of the child in the vent on Earth. Beyond the fact that the room he was in was just blasted by a Reaper, the child acts nothing like a child. Instead of crying he seems oddly calm. Also, his response is rather strange, for a child that is. "You can't save me" is not a line that you would expect to hear most children saying, kids just don't talk like that. . . not to mention he dissappears rather quickly.

The best way to understand this line is to realise what BW's intentions were in introducing the child. For me, the child represents Shepard's doubt and pessimism concerning his new challenge ahead, the crushing realisation that not all will survive "however hard he tries". And thus, in this case, making the child say, "You can't save me" is much more effective than him saying "YAH COMMANDER SHEPARD!!!"

[firstarioch]

firstarioch wrote...

hello ...havent been on Bioware forums since they closed our :
so we cant get the ending we want after all ----thread....

Since the extended ending fiasco which for me is even worse than the original ending..( eerie green eyes on everyone ...!!! its like they got ZOMBified !!!
Bioware misjudged the ending so much this has to be the worse misjudged ending ever to vieogame or film !!!

Anyway has anyone played Leviathan Yet ?? does it change this Mush we got into anything less crappy ?

WOW... I even still got irrelevant Retake TAg.... didnt do much good this campaign anyhow...

How is everyone here ? I recognise few people from that legendary Thread ...CoolioThan etc DjBare ...etc
and new people ...hello to you ....
can we still talk about ending here or not ?
Best to everyone ...

[CoolioThane]

SubAstris wrote...

Dusen wrote...

I'm certain this has been brought up multiple times in the past couple thousand pages that this thread and it's successors have been open, but I've always had problems with the presentation of the child in the vent on Earth. Beyond the fact that the room he was in was just blasted by a Reaper, the child acts nothing like a child. Instead of crying he seems oddly calm. Also, his response is rather strange, for a child that is. "You can't save me" is not a line that you would expect to hear most children saying, kids just don't talk like that. . . not to mention he dissappears rather quickly.

The best way to understand this line is to realise what BW's intentions were in introducing the child. For me, the child represents Shepard's doubt and pessimism concerning his new challenge ahead, the crushing realisation that not all will survive "however hard he tries". And thus, in this case, making the child say, "You can't save me" is much more effective than him saying "YAH COMMANDER SHEPARD!!!"

OMG Sub! How are you?! 

I still don't but the kid in Vancouver being real. It seems way too surreal in my eyes

[CoolioThane]

firstarioch wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

hello ...havent been on Bioware forums since they closed our :
so we cant get the ending we want after all ----thread....

Since the extended ending fiasco which for me is even worse than the original ending..( eerie green eyes on everyone ...!!! its like they got ZOMBified !!!
Bioware misjudged the ending so much this has to be the worse misjudged ending ever to vieogame or film !!!

Anyway has anyone played Leviathan Yet ?? does it change this Mush we got into anything less crappy ?

WOW... I even still got irrelevant Retake TAg.... didnt do much good this campaign anyhow...

How is everyone here ? I recognise few people from that legendary Thread ...CoolioThan etc DjBare ...etc
and new people ...hello to you ....
can we still talk about ending here or not ?
Best to everyone ...

Hey Fist! So many good times on that thread 

Yeah, talk about anything odd in the game that can link to perhaps indoctrination of Shepard...though a lot of the time we're talking about anything, like multiplayer, opinions on different sections of the game etc. This thread has become its own community pretty much 

[firstarioch]

CoolioThane wrote...




Hey Fist! So many good times on that thread 

Yeah, talk about anything odd in the game that can link to perhaps indoctrination of Shepard...though a lot of the time we're talking about anything, like multiplayer, opinions on different sections of the game etc. This thread has become its own community pretty much 

ok... Great... I tried to get the old thread reoped few moths back in the wake of extended ending rubbish ...but they said : NO...

Ok ...LEviathan ? what does it add ? does it change those dreadfull endings in anyway???

[SubAstris]

CoolioThane wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Dusen wrote...

I'm certain this has been brought up multiple times in the past couple thousand pages that this thread and it's successors have been open, but I've always had problems with the presentation of the child in the vent on Earth. Beyond the fact that the room he was in was just blasted by a Reaper, the child acts nothing like a child. Instead of crying he seems oddly calm. Also, his response is rather strange, for a child that is. "You can't save me" is not a line that you would expect to hear most children saying, kids just don't talk like that. . . not to mention he dissappears rather quickly.

The best way to understand this line is to realise what BW's intentions were in introducing the child. For me, the child represents Shepard's doubt and pessimism concerning his new challenge ahead, the crushing realisation that not all will survive "however hard he tries". And thus, in this case, making the child say, "You can't save me" is much more effective than him saying "YAH COMMANDER SHEPARD!!!"

OMG Sub! How are you?! 

I still don't but the kid in Vancouver being real. It seems way too surreal in my eyes

I've been dead for the last two weeks, just waiting for Leviathan (which unfortunately I won't be able to play straightaway)

I can't deny, on balance, the kid is a tad odd. Just not indoctrination odd

[CoolioThane]

SubAstris wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Dusen wrote...

I'm certain this has been brought up multiple times in the past couple thousand pages that this thread and it's successors have been open, but I've always had problems with the presentation of the child in the vent on Earth. Beyond the fact that the room he was in was just blasted by a Reaper, the child acts nothing like a child. Instead of crying he seems oddly calm. Also, his response is rather strange, for a child that is. "You can't save me" is not a line that you would expect to hear most children saying, kids just don't talk like that. . . not to mention he dissappears rather quickly.

The best way to understand this line is to realise what BW's intentions were in introducing the child. For me, the child represents Shepard's doubt and pessimism concerning his new challenge ahead, the crushing realisation that not all will survive "however hard he tries". And thus, in this case, making the child say, "You can't save me" is much more effective than him saying "YAH COMMANDER SHEPARD!!!"

OMG Sub! How are you?! 

I still don't but the kid in Vancouver being real. It seems way too surreal in my eyes

I've been dead for the last two weeks, just waiting for Leviathan (which unfortunately I won't be able to play straightaway)

I can't deny, on balance, the kid is a tad odd. Just not indoctrination odd

You've literally been dead for two weeks?  YEah, the thread has really slowed just waiting for Leviathan. Except when HAnar came back and his attitude got the pages moving but nothing new was learned from him 

Fair enough, to each their own 

firstarioch wrote... 

ok... Great... I tried to get the old thread reoped few moths back in the wake of extended ending rubbish ...but they said : NO...

Ok ...LEviathan ? what does it add ? does it change those dreadfull endings in anyway???

That sucks 

We don't know for sure yet  but it definitely adds new topics of conversation with the Starchild at the end. There's been the usual self-contradictory statements from Bioware employees about it. I'm quietly confident Leviathan will shed more light on the endings being unreal (in a  literal sense (but not THAT way), not in a "dude that was totally unreal" sense) 

It is coming out Tuesday week so hopefully we'll be celebrating then!

Leviathan promises in depth background on Reaper origins, a new area om the Citadel, exploration etc. 

The screens are interesting, there's one of a cavepainting of Asari-looking people  fighting/in awe of the Reapers and then a giant humanoid looking figure. Very slenderman-like 

Last night I was very negative about stuff because it's been 5 months, but I'm back and in IT mode lol

[firstarioch]

CoolioThane wrote...

That sucks 

We don't know for sure yet  but it definitely adds new topics of conversation with the Starchild at the end. There's been the usual self-contradictory statements from Bioware employees about it. I'm quietly confident Leviathan will shed more light on the endings being unreal (in a  literal sense (but not THAT way), not in a "dude that was totally unreal" sense) 

It is coming out Tuesday week so hopefully we'll be celebrating then!

Leviathan promises in depth background on Reaper origins, a new area om the Citadel, exploration etc. 

The screens are interesting, there's one of a cavepainting of Asari-looking people  fighting/in awe of the Reapers and then a giant humanoid looking figure. Very slenderman-like 

Last night I was very negative about stuff because it's been 5 months, but I'm back and in IT mode lol

you know what I m donw with Bioware after Me fiasco.
Many witers have left them after SWor catastrophe as well as during and after the ME 3 game.
Greg Zeszczuk Bioware co-founder is on "sabbatical" and developing independently.
Ea tried to smooth it over saying that he still is there and will come back but I doubt it...

I think they are disintegrating and Im hapoy about it.

It alll they deserve rea`lly .Me 3 ending was a disaster of epic proportions and the most misjudged ending in film or videogame medium ever in my opion.

So from me to Bioware - Scr*w you....

Modifié par firstarioch, 19 août 2012 - 01:44 .

[Drewton]

From Twitter:

Me: "Will the Leviathan DLC confirm/deny the Indoctrination theory, or continue to leave it ambiguous?"
Chris Priestly: "The endings will remain up to the individual players."

[demersel]

SubAstris wrote...

Dusen wrote...

I'm certain this has been brought up multiple times in the past couple thousand pages that this thread and it's successors have been open, but I've always had problems with the presentation of the child in the vent on Earth. Beyond the fact that the room he was in was just blasted by a Reaper, the child acts nothing like a child. Instead of crying he seems oddly calm. Also, his response is rather strange, for a child that is. "You can't save me" is not a line that you would expect to hear most children saying, kids just don't talk like that. . . not to mention he dissappears rather quickly.

The best way to understand this line is to realise what BW's intentions were in introducing the child. For me, the child represents Shepard's doubt and pessimism concerning his new challenge ahead, the crushing realisation that not all will survive "however hard he tries". And thus, in this case, making the child say, "You can't save me" is much more effective than him saying "YAH COMMANDER SHEPARD!!!"

Even in your logic, the kid is there as metaphor. He is artificially inserted into a story from above, and doesn't feel like a character. If the devs while wcomposing the sotry wonted us players to fell for this kid, and through him come to the crushing realisation that he can't save everyone - it would be much easier to write him as a real innocent sympathetic kid, which you could actually like. (and they know how to do that stuff). 

[CoolioThane]

 

firstarioch wrote...

 you know what I m donw with Bioware after Me fiasco.
Many witers have left them after SWor catastrophe as well as during and after the ME 3 game.
Greg Zeszczuk Bioware co-founder is on "sabbatical" and developing independently.
Ea tried to smooth it over saying that he still is there and will come back but I doubt it...

I think they are disintegrating and Im hapoy about it.

It alll they deserve rea`lly .Me 3 ending was a disaster of epic proportions and the most misjudged ending in film or videogame medium ever in my opion.

So from me to Bioware - Scr*w you....

 

 

Modifié par CoolioThane, 19 août 2012 - 01:46 .

[demersel]

Drewton wrote...

From Twitter:

Me: "Will the Leviathan DLC confirm/deny the Indoctrination theory, or continue to leave it ambiguous?"
Chris Priestly: "The endings will remain up to the individual players."

YAY!!! That's a difinitive \\YES\\!!!! You all heard it! right from the man himself!

[CoolioThane]

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...

From Twitter:

Me: "Will the Leviathan DLC confirm/deny the Indoctrination theory, or continue to leave it ambiguous?"
Chris Priestly: "The endings will remain up to the individual players."

YAY!!! That's a difinitive YES!!!! You all heard it! right from the man himself!

That's a joke right? It sounds like the usual answer to me 

[firstarioch]

CoolioThane

Lol...Sorry old anger is still there ...resurfacing occasionally ...lol
But if Zesczuk is out how long before Muzyka goes ?
Really im not counting Hudson as he useless ... The man I really mourned leaving was Karpyshyn...
He is the one behind ME writing really ...

[Leonia]

demersel wrote...

Drewton wrote...

From Twitter:

Me: "Will the Leviathan DLC confirm/deny the Indoctrination theory, or continue to leave it ambiguous?"
Chris Priestly: "The endings will remain up to the individual players."

YAY!!! That's a difinitive YES!!!! You all heard it! right from the man himself!

Really? Because it sounded like a big fat no to me but as Chris said.. it will remains open to every individual's interpretation. That's not really different then what we already have.

[firstarioch]

CoolioThane

lots of people from : so we cant get the ending we want after all left Bioware forums and we are here :

www.kyriene.com

[demersel]

CoolioThane wrote...

That's a joke right? It sounds like the usual answer to me 

Not entirely. The endings reamain up to the individual player - For me individually  that means that the IT remains 100% true and valid. )))

And NO ONE will be able to rpove me wrong. 

So at least we know for sure it would not disprove the IT once and for all. 


It's like with that thing i read in mass effect invasion comic. 

In a guarillia warfare conventional army loses if it doesn't win, and the guarillias win if they don't lose. 

We can apply the same principal.

Modifié par demersel, 19 août 2012 - 02:00 .

[firstarioch]

Modifié par firstarioch, 19 août 2012 - 01:57 .

[ebuchala]

Hrothdane wrote...

You didn't miss anything. My post got buried (thank you for resurrecting it )

I was actually thinking that if the Alpha Relay is where the Reapers enter the galaxy, maybe the Omega-4 Relay is where they leave? Another possibility is that the Reapers' invasion starts at the Alpha Relay, and will be stopped at the Omega-4 Relay. That would mean the Omega DLC might actually be more important than initially thought.

I totally forgot that rho is a greek letter, too! However, why would the Project team give the object a greek letter as a designation if all other such designations are reserved for relays?

I like the way you think about Omega. As for Rho--after a quick review of the wiki info on the object and after checking the wiki about mass relays in general, they mention numerous relays that don't have Greek letters for their names (Charon, Harsa, Lowas, Mactare) plus there's both and Omega 2 relay and an Omega 4 relay. I'm guessing that many of the relays were, like Charon, named based on their location (the system they were in, planet or moon they were close to, etc.). Meaning, I don't think they reserved Greek letters for the relays so using Rho as a name for the object wouldn't really be confusing in that regard.

[firstarioch]

CoolioThane

lots of people from : so we cant get the ending we want after all... thread  left Bioware forums and we are here :

www.kyriene.com
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