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[Dam0299]

Drewton wrote...

I want to see what a synthesized giraffe looks like.

Exactly the same as a normal giraffe, Except it will have green eyes and green lines running throughout its body.

[masster blaster]

Okay we should go back to discussing IT in general. I know Synthesis is aprt of IT, but we are geeting no where with this.

[TJBartlemus]

I agree we need to get off of the topic of synthesis. Just to make a final point though of us using replacement limbs and such...is using a tool make it part of you? IMO it doesn't. Even if it is attached permanently it doesn't make it a part of you. What makes you as a physical person is what you were naturally given. Adding synthetic tools doesn't change who you are.

[demersel]

TJBartlemus wrote...

I agree we need to get off of the topic of synthesis. Just to make a final point though of us using replacement limbs and such...is using a tool make it part of you? IMO it doesn't. Even if it is attached permanently it doesn't make it a part of you. What makes you as a physical person is what you were naturally given. Adding synthetic tools doesn't change who you are.

What you were naturally given, plus the summ of all expieriences you had. 

[estebanus]

TJBartlemus wrote...

For future reference for people on the thread I recommend that you look up the definition if not sure.

Synthesis is a process that occurs unnaturally. Evolution is a process that occurs naturally over lots of time. Synthesis is a cheat to evolution. In essence it is an abomination to nature cause it challenges the very basis of organic development. To choose an advancement to cheat nature and is an abomination is foolish. It also is certainly not inevitable cause it will never happen naturally and since organic choice is impossible to predict you cannot make a claim like that.

Of course not. But I just think that some form of it will happen. Humanity has already started down that path.

Every form of technological advancement is a form of cheating evolution though, isn't it? We cheated evolution by learning how to fly without wings. We cheated it by learning how to live underwater without gills. We cheated it by inventing candles to let us see in the dark instead of getting nightvision. Synthesis would more or less be nothing else than a technological advancement, wouldn't it?

[estebanus]

TJBartlemus wrote...

I agree we need to get off of the topic of synthesis. Just to make a final point though of us using replacement limbs and such...is using a tool make it part of you? IMO it doesn't. Even if it is attached permanently it doesn't make it a part of you. What makes you as a physical person is what you were naturally given. Adding synthetic tools doesn't change who you are.

IMO it does. Not mentally, but physically. But that of course is left over to personal interpretation.

Modifié par estebanus, 19 août 2012 - 10:56 .

[estebanus]

Well, I'm gonna go to bed now. See you later!

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

Well, I'm gonna go to bed now. See you later!

Good night!

[UrgedDuke]

anything new since the last thread

[ozzydude66]

The indoc theroy is a great ending fort people that don't like the normal ones but dont't say it is the "only" or "true" ending.

[Drewton]

It's the only ending that makes sense.

[BansheeOwnage]

Drewton wrote...

It's the only ending that makes sense.

+1

[Simon_Says]

I'm back to tell you all that i'm currently sitting on the deck, smoking a cigar, with a glass of rum.

Speculating like a generalissimo.

[BansheeOwnage]

Simon_Says wrote...

I'm back to tell you all that i'm currently sitting on the deck, smoking a cigar, with a glass of rum.

Speculating like a generalissimo.

[Simon_Says]

Oddly enough that's the exact position I was sitting in, and I hadn't realized it.

[BansheeOwnage]

Simon_Says wrote...

Oddly enough that's the exact position I was sitting in, and I hadn't realized it.

I know it was, I was watching you.

[Drewton]

[ozzydude66]

It's not the only ending that sence to everyone that's your personal opinion.

[BansheeOwnage]

ozzydude66 wrote...

It's not the only ending that sence to everyone that's your personal opinion.

All of the most rational minds that I've seen on BSN are in this very thread. As a group we are some very smart people. We know the score. That should give you some idea of what makes sense, and what doesn't.

Edit: No offense intended, also, I'll see you all later.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 19 août 2012 - 11:36 .

[munnellyladt]

Drewton wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Never get tired of this.

[Simon_Says]

"Without Bioware's support, you may think I can't convince you that IT is true. But I can!"

"We're at war. No one wants to admit it but Indoctrination Theory's under attack. One very specific theorist might be all that stands between Indoctrination Theory and the greatest letdown of our brief existence. We need a speculator, and surround them with the brightest, the wisest, the canniest allies we can find. The team will have to be strong, their resolve unquestionable. "

Modifié par Simon_Says, 19 août 2012 - 11:44 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

Haven't entirely caught up with the discussion, just a few reactions:

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Drewton wrote...

I was worried they were going to disprove the theory, so I'm happy if they're leaving it ambiguous at least for now.

The impression I got from speaking to Jessica and Chris is that they are going to keep it ambiguous FOREVER.

I can't
even explain is words how much I would hate that. That's far worse than
disproving IT IMO. What do you guys think?

From the very first moment I realized what the ending was about, I knew they were going to leave it ambiguous forever. It's their Blade Runner. (Bad example because that one eventually got a director's cut, but you know what I mean.)

I don't understand why anyone needs confirmation at all. It's so bloody obvious.

Saren: synthesis TIM: control, both indoctrinated. There you go.

Anyone who doesn't get that hasn't been paying attention to the stories in the games or fails in interpreting symbolism.

The confirmation is in the game. Introduction shot of the boy.

Drewton wrote...

Wow, that is brilliant. Best explanation of the Crucible I've heard.

Haha, where do you think my name comes from? I never told you my Crucible theory? Oh right, that was.... that other guy whom I told that. You know who I mean.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 19 août 2012 - 11:49 .

[Drewton]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I don't understand why anyone needs confirmation at all. It's so bloody obvious.

Saren: synthesis TIM: control, both indoctrinated. There you go.

Yup. Like I wrote somewhere else...

"Saren: "The relationship is symbiotic...organic and machine, intertwined. A union of flesh and steel. The strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither. I am a vision of the future, Shepard. The evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign and experience a true rebirth."

The only difference is, Saren's eyes were blue and in Synthesis they are green.

DoomsdayDevice wrote... 

Haha, where do you think my name comes from? I never told you my Crucible theory? Oh right, that was.... that other guy whom I told that. You know who I mean.

Hahah, indeed.

Modifié par Drewton, 20 août 2012 - 12:01 .

[smokingotter1]

Simon_Says wrote...

I'm back to tell you all that i'm currently sitting on the deck, smoking a cigar, with a glass of rum.

Speculating like a generalissimo.

I'm in a cardboard box in downtown DC with my pipe downing a 40oz (speculation juice) like a champ.Oh no it's raining, my box is collapsing!

@Doomsdaydevice exactly, the intro shot of the boy pretty much set the tone for what kind of story we are going to be experiencing. At the beginning first time playing I thought that was a real ship, but it was all just an illusion.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 20 août 2012 - 12:11 .

[munnellyladt]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13744739

What does she mean by this???