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[estebanus]

DJBare wrote...

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...
Synthesis seems like it was just designed to create arguments. It's just not natural, should have never been in the game.

As an ending choice certainly not. It's wrong on so many levels. It truly only is good if organic life itself achieves synthesis naturally.

even then I wouldn't want it

I would, because it's nothing else but technological progression. People are naturally allowed to choose themselves if they'd want this, it shouldn't be forced.

IF synthesis were to ever be part of the evolutionary process then no one gets a choice, evolution is change to survive, what does not work get's discarded through natural selection.

Synthesis will not occur through uncontrolled evolution. It will only happen through controlled evolution, a.k.a synthetic limbs that are able to interface flawlessly with the neural system. However, the individual would still have to choose to undergo this process. Does the person want to remain fully organic, or does he want to become something different?

EDIT: top.

Modifié par estebanus, 20 août 2012 - 12:28 .

[CoolioThane]

Speculation withdrawal is killing me :L

But no, I've rewatched seasons 1-6 of the Office and am halfway through 7 again in the past week or so...yeah, I need LEviathan

[estebanus]

CoolioThane wrote...

Speculation withdrawal is killing me :L

But no, I've rewatched seasons 1-6 of the Office and am halfway through 7 again in the past week or so...yeah, I need LEviathan

Nice. I'm currently working on an essay for university about the technological singularity. I might use it for the thread I'm gonna make about synthesis.

Modifié par estebanus, 20 août 2012 - 01:00 .

[Skeem]

Just doing another playthrough.. and just noticed something... maybe.

The first time we hear the 'Prothean Device' called the Crucible was when Admiral Hackett tells us:
"The Alliance Techs have coined the device Operation Crucible".. or words along those lines.

Is there any point before this that the device is refered to as 'The Crucible'? If not, it's further evidence that Starkid is either, in Shepards mind, or he knows more about what's going on than we think. Otherwise, how else would he know it was called 'The Crucible'? The 'Alliance Techs' could have called it anything..

Linky:

Modifié par Skeem, 20 août 2012 - 01:28 .

[CoolioThane]

estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Speculation withdrawal is killing me :L

But no, I've rewatched seasons 1-6 of the Office and am halfway through 7 again in the past week or so...yeah, I need LEviathan

Nice. I'm currently working on an essay for university about the technological singularity. I might use it for the thread I'm gonna make about synthesis.

o_O Sorry I do geography at uni 

Can't wait to get back!

[spotlessvoid]

Skeem: Reaper spies are everywhere man

[Rosewind]

the people of skyrim are so impatient "Have you gone to get the ore sample yet" "Omg Women I haven't even left the building yet"

[DextroDNA]

Rosewind wrote...

the people of skyrim are so impatient "Have you gone to get the ore sample yet" "Omg Women I haven't even left the building yet"

Think you're on the wrong forum.

Modifié par RussianZombeh, 20 août 2012 - 02:27 .

[Rosewind]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

the people of skyrim are so impatient "Have you gone to get the ore sample yet" "Omg Women I haven't even left the building yet"

Think you're on the wrong forum.

No right forum I am bored and eberyone is boring

[Harorrd]

yes

[ZerebusPrime]

Rosewind wrote...

the people of skyrim are so impatient "Have you gone to get the ore sample yet" "Omg Women I haven't even left the building yet"

My werewolf met a coven of cannibals the other day.  They were delicious.

Skyrim is where I go to recover when I can't take the ambiguous press statements and continued barrage of "IT is stupid/debunked/wrong/insulting" comments anymore.

And it works, too.  I'm almost recovered.

[GethPrimeMKII]

If there wasn't anything to reveal later on I doubt they'd play this cruel joke on us.

In the meantime it's interesting to see just how strongly people stand by their end game choices. Players who've given into the Reapers by choosing control or synthesis are so convinced they're right, they're willing to argue with all their might to support their choice.

It's like watching real life indoctrination. I said it before and I'll say it again: The writing is more brilliant than people give it credit for. It's clever enough to trick a lot of players into abandoning what is right, believing the enemy, and throwing away everything they've sought to accomplish throughout the trilogy.

[Dwailing]

 Anyone here?  Any juicy speculations recently?  Shepard? 

Edit: I'll just add that it seems BioWare is being much more secretive with what they announce about their DLC this time.  I mean, if memory serves, they shared a lot more about what was contained in previous DLC before it was released, but now they're telling us basically nothing besides the setting.  They must be up to something...

Modifié par Dwailing, 20 août 2012 - 03:58 .

[GethPrimeMKII]

I'm here.

[Bobby Peru]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I'm here.

This.

[masster blaster]

For me, when I get tired of IT is wrong, and stupid. I go watch Bender clips, andplay my DK on WoW. But back to what I am going to say is, that Anderson is dead in the real world. You want to know why. I say this because from Anderson's final words to Shepard, I had a feeling in real life. Once Shepard wakes up in Destroy ending, Shepard is going to watch Anderson die defending Shepard.

Once somebody comes to get Shepard, Anderson is going to say a few words to Shepard, and will die. But before Anderson die Sanders contacts Shepard, and wishes to speak to Anderson, before Anderson dies.


After that Shepard get's taken to Rio, to get all fixed up, and Hackett had to leave Earth, because the Crucible didn't fire, or got Destroyed.

Then the Reapers managed to find out, where Shepard is and Shepard has to leave Earth again. As Shepard trys to leave Earth, one of Shepard's squad mates, weather it's former, or current dies to by time for Shepard to leave earth.

As Shepard boards the shuttle, only two squad mates will go with Shepard to outer space, and the rest will lead the Hammer, and Earth resistance on Earth.

Oonce Shepard leaves Earth, Shepard start to feel the Reapers on the Normandy, and wait crap I am thinking on what's going to happen after Destroy breath scene.

Sorry, but you get what I mean.

[Drewton]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

It's like watching real life indoctrination. I said it before and I'll say it again: The writing is more brilliant than people give it credit for. It's clever enough to trick a lot of players into abandoning what is right, believing the enemy, and throwing away everything they've sought to accomplish throughout the trilogy.

Exactly.

[masster blaster]

Any ways I believe Bioware has tricking the players on what is right, and what is wrong. Think of this, as a guessing game. You choose an end, and if you pick right you win, but if you pick wrong you loose. Now the problem is that all endings look like a win prize, but there can only be one. You see it's all about understanding the story, and plot of ME. If you don't pay attention, or get invovled into the stroy, you are not going to understand the ending.

Now if you think back for a minute, why is it that Bioware says it's bad if you get to into a plot, but what does that mean about ME3's endings. Did Bioware did not want to get to much into the stroy, and get to much into the stroy, so they left it up to the players to decide what happened at the end.

Now I call BS to this because as I recall, they love to get into the stroy, and love working on the plots so much. Also I find it hard that they will let the endings be as they are because then nobody will play games any more.

Think about this, if a company did not want to finish their work, then the person who is want's the work to be finished, while try to create their own product. Now if Bioware says it's up to the player to imagen their own ending on what happence, then that means.

1. They don't want to do the extra work.
2. They don't want to dissapoint their fans because people won't like how it's all going to end. I call this BS because they could have said this in ME1, and ME2, but they didn't.
3. If that's the case, then people won't buy any more games because people will learn to create their own want's, which will make game companys go bank rupt do to the lack of gamers playing the story.

So what I am looking at here, is that if game companys go this way, then their will be no more stroy telling, and only action, and MP.

I won't play games anymore because there will be no more story anymore, which leads me to what's the point in playing a game, that has no feelings to it, after you played/finish the game.

Any ways it's good to have Dwaling back, and happy speculating everyone.

[TheConstantOne]

masster blaster wrote...

Any ways I believe Bioware has tricking the players on what is right, and what is wrong. Think of this, as a guessing game. You choose an end, and if you pick right you win, but if you pick wrong you loose. Now the problem is that all endings look like a win prize, but there can only be one. You see it's all about understanding the story, and plot of ME. If you don't pay attention, or get invovled into the stroy, you are not going to understand the ending.

Now if you think back for a minute, why is it that Bioware says it's bad if you get to into a plot, but what does that mean about ME3's endings. Did Bioware did not want to get to much into the stroy, and get to much into the stroy, so they left it up to the players to decide what happened at the end.

Now I call BS to this because as I recall, they love to get into the stroy, and love working on the plots so much. Also I find it hard that they will let the endings be as they are because then nobody will play games any more.

Think about this, if a company did not want to finish their work, then the person who is want's the work to be finished, while try to create their own product. Now if Bioware says it's up to the player to imagen their own ending on what happence, then that means.

1. They don't want to do the extra work.
2. They don't want to dissapoint their fans because people won't like how it's all going to end. I call this BS because they could have said this in ME1, and ME2, but they didn't.
3. If that's the case, then people won't buy any more games because people will learn to create their own want's, which will make game companys go bank rupt do to the lack of gamers playing the story.

So what I am looking at here, is that if game companys go this way, then their will be no more stroy telling, and only action, and MP.

I won't play games anymore because there will be no more story anymore, which leads me to what's the point in playing a game, that has no feelings to it, after you played/finish the game.

Any ways it's good to have Dwaling back, and happy speculating everyone.

I just have to take a moment to comment on the whole "don't get too attached to a plot" quote from Bioware.  I see it being blown out of proportion all the time and want to correct it here. 

That quote was taken out of context: According to what I've read, someone asked Jessica about Harbinger's lack of dialogue and stated that they wanted more Harbinger involvement in the game.  Jessica's response is that, while that would have been cool, the developers had other plans for the game and *don't get too attached to a plot.*

So all that quote says is don't get too fixated on what you *want* to be the story.  Sure, speculate and get into the plots of ME, but don't become depressed if what you wanted the story to be is not what happens in reality.

[Jenrais]

 I know this is old but





why does this make me beleive in indoctrination but I know it isn't true

[MissMaster_2]

Anyone have pictures of those data pads on Earth that point to indoctrination?

[masster blaster]

Jenrais wrote...

 I know this is old but





why does this make me beleive in indoctrination but I know it isn't true

it's what you want to believe in. You have to have hope, and take heart, into what you believe in.

Seeing is believeing, but haveing hope is believeing.

In other word you believe in what you see and only see, but if you know something is not right, and you believe it's wrong, then you have hope.

[Jenrais]

masster blaster wrote...

Jenrais wrote...

 I know this is old but





why does this make me beleive in indoctrination but I know it isn't true

it's what you want to believe in. You have to have hope, and take heart, into what you believe in.

Seeing is believeing, but haveing hope is believeing.

In other word you believe in what you see and only see, but if you know something is not right, and you believe it's wrong, then you have hope.

Didn't Bioware flat out deny the indoctrination theory however?

[Mello]

Jenrais wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Jenrais wrote...

 I know this is old but





why does this make me beleive in indoctrination but I know it isn't true

it's what you want to believe in. You have to have hope, and take heart, into what you believe in.

Seeing is believeing, but haveing hope is believeing.

In other word you believe in what you see and only see, but if you know something is not right, and you believe it's wrong, then you have hope.

Didn't Bioware flat out deny the indoctrination theory however?

As i recall they didn't deny it but nor did they confirm it.

[Jenrais]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Jenrais wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Jenrais wrote...

 I know this is old but





why does this make me beleive in indoctrination but I know it isn't true

it's what you want to believe in. You have to have hope, and take heart, into what you believe in.

Seeing is believeing, but haveing hope is believeing.

In other word you believe in what you see and only see, but if you know something is not right, and you believe it's wrong, then you have hope.

Didn't Bioware flat out deny the indoctrination theory however?

As i recall they didn't deny it but nor did they confirm it.

Ah... It seemed like the Extende cut DLC solved some of the indoctrination theory points and made it seem like there wasn't any indoctrination going on. I would beleive it if it wasn't confirmed however. I don't see why they wouldn't confirm if its not however... Not going to spoil anything.