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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

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I don't want to spoil Leviathan for myself so I haven't even read the leaked scripts. I wonder where in the single player campaign would be the best time to start Leviathan.

Since it's available immediately after Mars, I would imagine there, if for no other reason than to see if the events of the DLC have any effect on any other part of the game. I don't know if I feel like doing that, but I'm sure lots of people will and will post any relevent scenes.


I'm not sure, but does this mean that there will be no effects on other parts of the game?
twitter.com/GambleMike/status/237635812836130816

I doubt it because I thought we found some lines from Kasumi/Jondum Bau's mission about the Leviathan of Dis. Don't take my word for it on that though; I stopped reading the leaked stuff ages ago to avoid spoilers.


We did indeed find that, however there's no reason that the changes resulting from that have to be substantial ;)

Also, I'm trying to decide if I can be bothered starting a new playthrough. Want to try playing Sentinel/Insanity or some such thing, but not sure if I have sufficient ****s to give :lol:

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TSA_383 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I don't want to spoil Leviathan for myself so I haven't even read the leaked scripts. I wonder where in the single player campaign would be the best time to start Leviathan.

Since it's available immediately after Mars, I would imagine there, if for no other reason than to see if the events of the DLC have any effect on any other part of the game. I don't know if I feel like doing that, but I'm sure lots of people will and will post any relevent scenes.


I'm not sure, but does this mean that there will be no effects on other parts of the game?
twitter.com/GambleMike/status/237635812836130816

I doubt it because I thought we found some lines from Kasumi/Jondum Bau's mission about the Leviathan of Dis. Don't take my word for it on that though; I stopped reading the leaked stuff ages ago to avoid spoilers.


We did indeed find that, however there's no reason that the changes resulting from that have to be substantial ;)

Also, I'm trying to decide if I can be bothered starting a new playthrough. Want to try playing Sentinel/Insanity or some such thing, but not sure if I have sufficient ****s to give :lol:

Well, Mass Effect is still awesome, though I know what you mean about the playthrough. It's one thing to play ME1 or 2 again because they have good endings. I just feel a but nihilistic in ME3. What about you?

Also, speed up this thread! I have to go soon and I want to be there for page 5000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted Image

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We need some of massters triple posts :lol:

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I began thinking through the options at the end again. I believe and support the IT. I was thinking if what happens at the end is in fact real and not a hallucination or dream, then Synthesis is the absolute worst option.

Why? It is an extraordinarily presumptuous option when you think about it. One man/woman choosing to turn every man, woman, and child in the galaxy; be they Turian, Asari, Human, Drell, Geth, Quarian, etc... into some kind of synthetic organic hybrid without any regard for what anyone else's wishes might be. It's horrible to even think about it.

I don't know how I would feel if I woke up one morning and looked in the mirror to see some green glowing eyed glowing veined freak looking at me. One more reason why I can't believe any of what is happening at the end is real.

I also noticed something else. At the beginning, just before the boy climbs onto the shuttle that gets blasted, there is a big yellow "Caution!" sign in view from one of the camera angles. It is very distinct. During the confrontation with the TIM, the camera quite a few times when it is on Shepard, shows his gun with a great big "Caution" stamp under the barrel.

You might say, that is just a texture decal, but it is only present on that particular pistol, and it is focused on a lot during TIM confrontation.

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Synthesis is the absolute worst option.


Someone also stated that Synthesis leaves no real potential for future Sequels because there's peace and pie everywhere, so if BW wants to make moar ME, they can't go with Synthesis
That's the "money making"-point of view ^_^

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During the confrontation with the TIM, the camera quite a few times when it is on Shepard, shows his gun with a great big "Caution" stamp under the barrel.


I didn't know about the caution stamp on the gun, do you have a screenshot?

*edit* typos everywhere :pinched:

Modifié par Norlond, 20 août 2012 - 11:39 .


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Interesting. So in the Leviathan DLC at the last portion of it that takes place under the sea...the view is extreamly high def. and the weapons are disabled. BioWare did say it was going to be a mainly story based DLC. Add that with no descriptive details on the DLC yet from BioWare I say whatever it is that we find is going to be BIG to the story. Now what can be big to the story about the origin of the Reapers? Remember Gamble also has said a large number of players will enjoy and appreciate the DLC. A large # of people (About 80%) support IT is some form....

I can't wait!!!!! Only about a week left!!! =)

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I wonder what they'll work on after retake Omega. I really hope they bring back the mako and hammerhead vehicles, as well as short N7 scan missions. 

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Norlond wrote...

desert_beagle wrote...
Synthesis is the absolute worst option.


Someone also stated that Synthesis leaves no real potential for future Sequels because there's peace and pie everywhere, so if BW wants to make moar ME, they can't go with Synthesis
That's the "money making"-point of view ^_^

desert_beagle wrote...
During the confrontation with the TIM, the camera quite a few times when it is on Shepard, shows his gun with a great big "Caution" stamp under the barrel.


I didn't know about the caution stamp on the gun, do you have a screenshot?

*edit* typos everywhere :pinched:


Unfortunately no screenshot, I'm on an Xbox.  I just played through the ending again last night and I noticed it.  The more times I go through it the more subtle little nuances start to slip through.

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TJBartlemus wrote...
I can't wait!!!!! Only about a week left!!! =)


Fixed, it's Tuesday over here already ;)

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The more times I go through it the more
subtle little nuances start to slip through.


I know exactly what you mean :lol:

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desert_beagle wrote...

I began thinking through the options at the end again. I believe and support the IT. I was thinking if what happens at the end is in fact real and not a hallucination or dream, then Synthesis is the absolute worst option.

Why? It is an extraordinarily presumptuous option when you think about it. One man/woman choosing to turn every man, woman, and child in the galaxy; be they Turian, Asari, Human, Drell, Geth, Quarian, etc... into some kind of synthetic organic hybrid without any regard for what anyone else's wishes might be. It's horrible to even think about it.

I don't know how I would feel if I woke up one morning and looked in the mirror to see some green glowing eyed glowing veined freak looking at me. One more reason why I can't believe any of what is happening at the end is real.

I also noticed something else. At the beginning, just before the boy climbs onto the shuttle that gets blasted, there is a big yellow "Caution!" sign in view from one of the camera angles. It is very distinct. During the confrontation with the TIM, the camera quite a few times when it is on Shepard, shows his gun with a great big "Caution" stamp under the barrel.

You might say, that is just a texture decal, but it is only present on that particular pistol, and it is focused on a lot during TIM confrontation.

Yes, I agree. I just don't see how they could support what is essentially galactic rape. I'll just repost something I wrote:

Well it's not really that simple, but if I had to stick to one piece of evidence, I would go with this:

The utter improbability that Bioware would write such an awesome, deep game with such great lore and characters, then apparently forget all of those characters, break the lore, and release a generally unsatisfying end the their awesome trilogy. The end of ME3 is arguably the most important part of the series. But then, after that, release more awesomely written DLC. How could they be awesome, screw up very badly, then be awesome again? Doesn't make any sense! So my biggest piece of IT evidence is BW screwing up that badly, because it simply makes less sense than the endings!

As for the Carnifex's caution sign I'm leaning towards "it's a coincidence." Though there is extensive pistol symbology at play, so it could mean something. Also, The kid and his warning signs is a big hint. The only time you can talk about the kid (to Garrus), when you mention him the camera angle changes do display a warning sign in the main battery, then back to normal after that. There is also a unique warning sign beside his vent. It has a lightning bolt (no control?) and I have no idea why you should be careful about electrocuting yourself in a vent. On the same sign is "code 89" - Police code 89 means a crime against nature = reaper.

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Norlond wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
I can't wait!!!!! Only about a week left!!! =)


Fixed, it's Tuesday over here already ;)


Not for me. :crying: It's only 3:53 here. And it doesn't matter. Leviathan is going to be released all at the same time for everyone. ^_^

Interesting find. Something glitched out on ME2 and the platforms for the Collector base didn't properly fall in place. Well it gave me a good view of the bottom of the platforms. Guess what were on the bottom? Tubes similar to the tube on the Citadel in the end full of yellow green glowy stuff. Just posting for anyone who might find interest in it...I particularily found it wierd. Tubes don't make things able to float. :blink:

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Carnifex:
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38 posts till page 5000! Step it up people I have to go soon! Posted Image

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@ Banshee - Regarding signs. I found a lot of interesting signs on Sur'Kesh that might be worthy of looking at. I don't have screen shots, but it might be something to look for on YT or in a recent playthrough. They were a lot of weird signs that were different, unique or similar to ones found before but what is certain are unique only to Sur'Kesh.

EDIT - Hmmm...one such sign is like this one. (on the wall)

http://t1.gstatic.co..._snRmvrqJvlDLwH

I remember looking at it and found it was similar to the ones we have seen already but this one was unique in that it had writing and some new symbols added. There is another sign near that sign you see that looked odd and had the alien dialect. If someone could find that and translate it would be appreciated!!! ^_^

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Carnifex:
*pic snip*


If the Predator doesn't have a caution sign I'm convinced that there's really a gun symbology going on

*edit* checked wiki, pic is low res but I can't see any caution sign, call me convinced!
I love subtle hidden ninja patterns :ph34r:

Modifié par Norlond, 21 août 2012 - 12:05 .


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There's even some hints that say that destroy is the best option.

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Reapers still exist with control or synthesis, thus you haven't defeated them.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

@ Banshee - Regarding signs. I found a lot of interesting signs on Sur'Kesh that might be worthy of looking at. I don't have screen shots, but it might be something to look for on YT or in a recent playthrough. They were a lot of weird signs that were different, unique or similar to ones found before but what is certain are unique only to Sur'Kesh.

I'll look next time I'm there, but it's probably because they're written in salarian. About Sur'Kesh though, I know I've said this before but on Firebase Jade there are
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FLIES!

Just because of one line Javik says about how the salarians used to eat flies!

Yet more evidence that Bioware doesn't suck at writing!!@!@#$!$!$!@~! Posted Image

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magnetite wrote...

There's even some hints that say that destroy is the best option.

*snip*

Reapers still exist with control or synthesis, thus you haven't defeated them.

Well if you want to go that far, I'm sure we could find a rediculous amount of support for destroy! (We should do that because the thread is slow lol.)

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Normally I would lean towards the coincidence side of it, too, except that when I was really paying attention to what was going on the camera angle had the "Caution" sign literally right in the middle of my screen staring me in the face.

The first time through I naturally just paid attention to the subtitles and Shepard's face when he was talking instead of looking at anything else.

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desert_beagle wrote...

Normally I would lean towards the coincidence side of it, too, except that when I was really paying attention to what was going on the camera angle had the "Caution" sign literally right in the middle of my screen staring me in the face.

The first time through I naturally just paid attention to the subtitles and Shepard's face when he was talking instead of looking at anything else.

Another reason I don't use subtitles.

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Banshee. Edited post that you responded to. Just letting you know.

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desert_beagle wrote...

Normally I would lean towards the coincidence side of it, too, except that when I was really paying attention to what was going on the camera angle had the "Caution" sign literally right in the middle of my screen staring me in the face.

The first time through I naturally just paid attention to the subtitles and Shepard's face when he was talking instead of looking at anything else.


Well, the guys at BW are masters of cinematic storytelling, I wouldn't be surprised if there're more angles that show us something on second third sight

going to bed now, if you get to p5000 before I'm back, congratz to the IT and its glorious speculators, peace and pie for everyone *salute* ^_^

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Subtitles are a two edge sword. They help you keep from missing lines of dialogue because of volume or how a voice actor speaks a line. That is actually how I caught the boy in the vent saying, "You can't save them," instead of, "You can't save me."

However, because I was watching the subtitles I missed the extra caution sign outside of his vent, that has now been brought to my attention. I also missed the one when speaking to Garrus about the boy. I guess I jumped over one pile to land in another. :)

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Norlond wrote...

desert_beagle wrote...

Normally I would lean towards the coincidence side of it, too, except that when I was really paying attention to what was going on the camera angle had the "Caution" sign literally right in the middle of my screen staring me in the face.

The first time through I naturally just paid attention to the subtitles and Shepard's face when he was talking instead of looking at anything else.


Well, the guys at BW are masters of cinematic storytelling, I wouldn't be surprised if there're more angles that show us something on second third sight

going to bed now, if you get to p5000 before I'm back, congratz to the IT and its glorious speculators, peace and pie for everyone *salute* ^_^

[salute]

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Anyone think that there could be a Leviathan of Dis tie in to the MP Op this weekend (it is an Op weekend, right?)?

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Anyone think that there could be a Leviathan of Dis tie in to the MP Op this weekend (it is an Op weekend, right?)?

Oh, yeah, good point. Regardless, it should be interesting to see what they reveal using the reaper memory core (unless they troll us). They'll probably announce it wednesday.