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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"

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yknow, I've got an idea why Mark II was locked. I humorously wrote that "My hallucination has come true" refering to my thoughts earlier today that I might get the top spot on page 2222. Now, considering that my avatar is Shepard... Do you see where this is going... Maybe the lockdown is a sign. lol

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Hey guys, new thread :D

Did you see Banshee's post just before it was locked?

Spooky O_o

It was. Funny too.

Edit: I'm gonna go play some MP now. Anyone on 360 is welcome to join me! Posted Image


Dammit, i'm away fo the week, otherwise I so would :P

What is your gamertag, for future referance? Mine is, unsurprisingly, Flog61 ;)

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paxxton wrote...

yknow, I've got an idea why Mark II was locked. I humorously wrote that "My hallucination has come true" refering to my thoughts earlier today that I might get the top spot on page 2222. Now, considering that my avatar is Shepard... Do you see where this is going... Maybe the lockdown is a sign. lol



If this is in the next IT documntary, I'm leaving forever ;)

EDIT: Damn, 2 posts in a row, sorry for being eager Posted Image

Modifié par Flog61, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:14 .


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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"


Because thats the only ending where you do nothing.

Inaction is not resisting.

Destroy is choosing to do what you came to do, and defeat the Reapers.

Refuse is choosing to lose the war on your own terms.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Hey guys, new thread :D

Did you see Banshee's post just before it was locked?

Spooky O_o

It was. Funny too.

Edit: I'm gonna go play some MP now. Anyone on 360 is welcome to join me! Posted Image

I imagine Chris hammering F5 until Banshee posted :3

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Dafuq, what's that:

"Warning: Promoting the Vanguard class to the front lines of the single-player Galaxy at War will reset the Vanguard class to level 1 in your multiplayer campaign."

Did they change the promotion message?

EDIT:
Also: "Please choose a unique character name". Did you guys notice that before?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:20 .


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Reporting in! Better late then never.

We fight, or we die.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dafuq, what's that:

"Warning: Promoting the Vanguard class to the front lines of the single-player Galaxy at War will reset the Vanguard class to level 1 in your multiplayer campaign."

Did they change the promotion message?


Sounds the same to me.

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It's okay TJ. That happened to me a while back, but they listen to me now because I make a little more sense now.


Funny thing is that I make plenty of sense most of the time. (Sometimes my mind works faster than my typing so some things are a little questionable.) I just really feel like the posts are read, considered for a sec then skipped. Even when I DO have good speculations. Maybe I do have to make a video or long work to be considered worthy...thought my WNT would but sadly so far...not really. (Maybe once the WNT video comes out you guys will)

One example was the showing that the ME2 beginning and the ME3 high EMS looked so similar. Of course, a few comments later and then it's dropped...  

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Reporting in! Better late then never.

We fight, or we die.


You missed the party we had, and tell hellish that we are on It mark 3.

Also Fellish. And everyone else.

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byne wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"


Because thats the only ending where you do nothing.

Inaction is not resisting.

Destroy is choosing to do what you came to do, and defeat the Reapers.

Refuse is choosing to lose the war on your own terms.


It's not inaction so much as it is a rejection of the Catalyst's options, which Destroy is not. In Destroy, you're willingly choosing one of  his new solutions (albeit a temporary one). Refusal is much more of a resistance than Destroy is.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dafuq, what's that:

"Warning: Promoting the Vanguard class to the front lines of the single-player Galaxy at War will reset the Vanguard class to level 1 in your multiplayer campaign."

Did they change the promotion message?

I'm not aware of a patch so I doubt it's changed.

Anything I've missed since the start of mk III?
The last two posts of mk II were classic by the way :lol:

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TSA_383 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dafuq, what's that:

"Warning: Promoting the Vanguard class to the front lines of the single-player Galaxy at War will reset the Vanguard class to level 1 in your multiplayer campaign."

Did they change the promotion message?

I'm not aware of a patch so I doubt it's changed.

Anything I've missed since the start of mk III?
The last two posts of mk II were classic by the way :lol:

Chris cut the thread's length by 2000 pages. Posted ImagePosted Image

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So Is it me or does the curved piece of metal in the Shepard Breath scene look alot like a peice of Object Rho from ME2:Arrival DLC?

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I think everyone on the BSN will be confused on which is the real IT thread.


That's very fitting...

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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

byne wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"


Because thats the only ending where you do nothing.

Inaction is not resisting.

Destroy is choosing to do what you came to do, and defeat the Reapers.

Refuse is choosing to lose the war on your own terms.


It's not inaction so much as it is a rejection of the Catalyst's options, which Destroy is not. In Destroy, you're willingly choosing one of  his new solutions (albeit a temporary one). Refusal is much more of a resistance than Destroy is.


How is refusing to do anything not  inaction?

Modifié par Flog61, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:25 .


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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

It's not inaction so much as it is a rejection of the Catalyst's options, which Destroy is not. In Destroy, you're willingly choosing one of  his new solutions (albeit a temporary one). Refusal is much more of a resistance than Destroy is.

Shepard no longer wants to use the Crucible to Destroy the Reapers...

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Bill Casey wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I think everyone on the BSN will be confused on which is the real IT thread.


That's very fitting...

I changed the name of the thread I created after the lockdown to something less ambiguous.

Modifié par paxxton, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:28 .


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Flog61 wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

byne wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"


Because thats the only ending where you do nothing.

Inaction is not resisting.

Destroy is choosing to do what you came to do, and defeat the Reapers.

Refuse is choosing to lose the war on your own terms.


It's not inaction so much as it is a rejection of the Catalyst's options, which Destroy is not. In Destroy, you're willingly choosing one of  his new solutions (albeit a temporary one). Refusal is much more of a resistance than Destroy is.


How is refusing to do anything not  inaction?


Shep isn't refusing to do anything, Shep's refusing to do any of the options presented by the Catalyst.

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It's sad to see Mark two being covered up by the other threads. :(

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:31 .


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masster blaster wrote...

It's sad to see Mark two being covered up by the other threads. :(

It's sinking. Posted Image No one will be spared and left there to take care of the sacred fire of IT. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:32 .


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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

byne wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"


Because thats the only ending where you do nothing.

Inaction is not resisting.

Destroy is choosing to do what you came to do, and defeat the Reapers.

Refuse is choosing to lose the war on your own terms.


It's not inaction so much as it is a rejection of the Catalyst's options, which Destroy is not. In Destroy, you're willingly choosing one of  his new solutions (albeit a temporary one). Refusal is much more of a resistance than Destroy is.


How is refusing to do anything not  inaction?


Shep isn't refusing to do anything, Shep's refusing to do any of the options presented by the Catalyst.


Well a lot of people think that they added refues because fans wanted to say go f*** your self to the Catalyst but they added that you lose no matter what, even if you had some many war assets. You lose either way.

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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

So, if IT is the secret ending, then why is it triggered via Destroy and not Refuse, even though Refuse is the only ending where you outright reject the choices presented to you by the Catalyst.

To quote: "I fight for the right to choose our own fate...and if I die, I'll die knowing that I died free."

So, seriously, how is that not the special ending that has you "waking up?"


If this is a battle in Shepard's mind, the destroy path is the route that Shepard's own resolve has crafted.  By refusing to act, Shepard is not moving on to fulfill his/her goal nor is s/he allowing themself to become indoctrinated.  Essentially Shepard gives up within his/her own mind and, therefore, dies.  It's like the movie Inception.  If you can't find your way out of the dream, your real body suffers the consequences

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L0NEWOLF25 wrote...

So Is it me or does the curved piece of metal in the Shepard Breath scene look alot like a peice of Object Rho from ME2:Arrival DLC?

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It does, and it also looks just like the Conduit that the Reapers built.