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[Arian Dynas]

Andromidius wrote...

Well Smudboy's newest video takes a sudden turn for the worse and starts rampantly bashing IT'ers.  Specifically IT'ers.  Not any of the other fans.  Not the pro-enders.  Not the retakers.

Seriously?

Not to mention he uses typical troll logic of using the 'bad writing' argument for EVERY SINGLE THING.  And then stating 'it didn't happen' over and over again as if he's almost trying to convince himself.  And the the final classic line 'dreams are just dreams'.

Yeah, I'm done.  Thanks Smudboy, but no more videos.  Ifs clear you just want to hate, and any potential for constructiveness isn't within you.

Arian Dynas wrote...

It's called foreshadowing.

Apperently not.  Foreshadowing is apperently 'bad writing'.  Yeah >_>

Makes me sad.

Makes me wish we could get a section of Fundies Say The Darndest Things dedicated to these people sometimes.

[CoolioThane]

Smudboy has always been a **** with an annoying habit to collect way too much saliva in his mouth. Yeah I'm not a fan.

It's obvious:

Mass Effect writers are bad, therefore the endings are bad. How do I know the writers are bad? Well, the ending is bad writing!

Isn't that circular?

No you're just retarded. ITers are idiotic and IT is a religion

[demersel]

Hey guys! I know how to prove that with the addition of EC - the IT is 100% true. WITHOUT MATH!!

If you look a bit closely the EC includes a "in-your-face" proof of the IT.

Modifié par demersel, 24 août 2012 - 12:57 .

[CoolioThane]

demersel wrote...

Hey guys! I know how to prove that with the addition of EC - the IT is 100% true. WITHOUT MATH!!

If you look a bit closely the EC includes a "in-your-face" proof of the IT.

Well...

[Arian Dynas]

Enlighten us.

Turbo_J and I have been saying much the same thing as your mathematical proofs for a while now, so what do you speak of?

(OK, well in honesty, I say the EC was meaningless fanservice meant to keep the natives from getting restless, but eh.)

[GethPrimeMKII]

CoolioThane wrote...

Smudboy has always been a **** with an annoying habit to collect way too much saliva in his mouth. Yeah I'm not a fan.

It's obvious:

Mass Effect writers are bad, therefore the endings are bad. How do I know the writers are bad? Well, the ending is bad writing!

Isn't that circular?

No you're just retarded. ITers are idiotic and IT is a religion

Have you accepted Indoctrination as your lord and savior today? I'm kidding, but that one line, along with "Occam's Razor disproves IT" are the reasons I only post here and in the MP forum.

[estebanus]

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I came in on Avacayos, discovered the rest here.

It was I who introduced my brother to the IT. I sorta heard about it from one of my friends.

I first learned about Indoctrination of Shepard through ACAVYOS' video too. I suppose most people were introduced to IT that way. The video is extremely well-made (both old and new versions) and full of details. It analyzes the whole Codex entry on Reaper Indoctrination and relates it to the event of the games. Unfortunately, it seems that after the EC ACAVYOS no longer thinks IT is the case.

Well, both of my brothers are part of the group that don't believe in IT anymore.

And that fact saddens me, because, quite simply, there is no reason to. IT is stronger than ever I say.

He told me that he realized he didn't believe in it anymore the moment he finished some kinda graphic novel.

[Andromidius]

CoolioThane wrote...

Smudboy has always been a **** with an annoying habit to collect way too much saliva in his mouth. Yeah I'm not a fan.

He usually points out a lot of inconsistancies and problems aptly.  Very fussy and critical, but usually correct. 

Problem is, he can ONLY find negitives.  So when he comes against IT he can only criticise it (or rather, the fans - ad hominum is cool, yo), rather then address it and try to disessemble it.

And repeats classic mistakes made months ago by others.  Like saying 'Shepard isn't Indoctrined because the Prothean AI says so'.  And still doesn't understand that indoctrinated =/= undergoing indoctrination.

Sad really.

Modifié par Andromidius, 24 août 2012 - 01:02 .

[demersel]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Enlighten us.

Turbo_J and I have been saying much the same thing as your mathematical proofs for a while now, so what do you speak of?

(OK, well in honesty, I say the EC was meaningless fanservice meant to keep the natives from getting restless, but eh.)

Well, in the EC, when tha Catalyst presents you the choices you are shown glimpses of what will happen in each choice (and not just anderson or illusice man doing things as it was in the original) . But you see, those glimpses are exactly the same footage that is shown after the choice.  In those glimpses you yven can see those two soldiers. And then after the choice you see exactly same footage, but extended and in colour. 

If the consequences of the choices that is shown, are real, then how could you see the exact future before making the choice? 
This means that what you see after the choice is an illusion. Combined with reaper voice in the new refuse ending - this means reaper infused illusion.  Which is what the IT states it is. IT is proved true by the bioware in the EC. There. You're welcome. )

Modifié par demersel, 24 août 2012 - 01:18 .

[demersel]

 Also, this image, if you read it closely, suggests that we could be living in some lab rat's brain. )))

[Andromidius]

So the Crucible is a time machine too? Ha, that's interesting.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Andromidius wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Smudboy has always been a **** with an annoying habit to collect way too much saliva in his mouth. Yeah I'm not a fan.

He usually points out a lot of inconsistancies and problems aptly.  Very fussy and critical, but usually correct. 

Problem is, he can ONLY find negitives.  So when he comes against IT he can only criticise it (or rather, the fans - ad hominum is cool, yo), rather then address it and try to disessemble it.

And repeats classic mistakes made months ago by others.  Like saying 'Shepard isn't Indoctrined because the Prothean AI says so'.  And still doesn't understand that indoctrinated =/= undergoing indoctrination.

Sad really.

If we're talking about Hanar, I feel the inconsistencies he points out are born from a very poor understanding of the story. Very rarely does he ever seem to be on point.

[Andromidius]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Smudboy has always been a **** with an annoying habit to collect way too much saliva in his mouth. Yeah I'm not a fan.

He usually points out a lot of inconsistancies and problems aptly.  Very fussy and critical, but usually correct. 

Problem is, he can ONLY find negitives.  So when he comes against IT he can only criticise it (or rather, the fans - ad hominum is cool, yo), rather then address it and try to disessemble it.

And repeats classic mistakes made months ago by others.  Like saying 'Shepard isn't Indoctrined because the Prothean AI says so'.  And still doesn't understand that indoctrinated =/= undergoing indoctrination.

Sad really.

If we're talking about Hanar, I feel the inconsistencies he points out are born from a very poor understanding of the story. Very rarely does he ever seem to be on point.

No I'm not.  Hanar is just a troll.

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I came in on Avacayos, discovered the rest here.

It was I who introduced my brother to the IT. I sorta heard about it from one of my friends.

I first learned about Indoctrination of Shepard through ACAVYOS' video too. I suppose most people were introduced to IT that way. The video is extremely well-made (both old and new versions) and full of details. It analyzes the whole Codex entry on Reaper Indoctrination and relates it to the event of the games. Unfortunately, it seems that after the EC ACAVYOS no longer thinks IT is the case.

Well, both of my brothers are part of the group that don't believe in IT anymore.

And that fact saddens me, because, quite simply, there is no reason to. IT is stronger than ever I say.

He told me that he realized he didn't believe in it anymore the moment he finished some kinda graphic novel.

Ahhh... Katawa Shoujo has that kind of effect on you, it sends you spiraling into an existstential crisis. Did for me too, instead of giving up on IT, mine manifested as a resounding and incessant urge to abandon who I was and become someone else, giving up my life and traiding it for another.

Still an excellent story. Makes me happy seeing it, and makes me even more depressed, knowing that it's fiction.

[Arian Dynas]

demersel wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Enlighten us.

Turbo_J and I have been saying much the same thing as your mathematical proofs for a while now, so what do you speak of?

(OK, well in honesty, I say the EC was meaningless fanservice meant to keep the natives from getting restless, but eh.)

Well, in the EC, when tha Catalyst presents you the choices you are shown glimpses of what will happen in each choice (and not just anderson or illusice man doing things as it was in the original) . But you see, those glimpses are exactly the same footage that is shown after the choice.  In those glimpses you yven can see those two soldiers. And then after the choice you see exactly same footage, but extended and in colour. 

If the consequences of the choices that is shown, are real, then how could you see the exact future before making the choice? 
This means that what you see after the choice is an illusion. Combined with reaper voice in the new refuse ending - this means reaper infused illusion.  Which is what the IT states it is. IT is proved true by the bioware in the EC. There. You're welcome. )

Wat.

[CoolioThane]

Pessimism for pessimism's sake. If he lives with that much negativity he's probably a very sad person. Kind of feel sorry for him

[Rosewind]

I need to give him a Monocle, monocles always makes people feel better

[Andromidius]

CoolioThane wrote...

Pessimism for pessimism's sake. If he lives with that much negativity he's probably a very sad person. Kind of feel sorry for him

I can agree with him that the game overall feels sloppy.  Especially in regards to cutscene animations (drawing shotguns like an assault rifle, which appears from nowhere, for example).  The game has many problems.

Its just the bad writing bit I think is laughable, especially when you put effort into everything else.  Even Smudboy puts effort into his videos, yet he resorts to the lazy 'bad writing' argument at the drop of a hat.  Very disappointing.

[Arian Dynas]

To me, the game felt better polished than MOST games I've seen in a while. Not one glitch on my first playthrough, not even a graphical one.

[demersel]

Arian Dynas wrote...

demersel wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Enlighten us.

Turbo_J and I have been saying much the same thing as your mathematical proofs for a while now, so what do you speak of?

(OK, well in honesty, I say the EC was meaningless fanservice meant to keep the natives from getting restless, but eh.)

Well, in the EC, when tha Catalyst presents you the choices you are shown glimpses of what will happen in each choice (and not just anderson or illusice man doing things as it was in the original) . But you see, those glimpses are exactly the same footage that is shown after the choice.  In those glimpses you yven can see those two soldiers. And then after the choice you see exactly same footage, but extended and in colour. 

If the consequences of the choices that is shown, are real, then how could you see the exact future before making the choice? 
This means that what you see after the choice is an illusion. Combined with reaper voice in the new refuse ending - this means reaper infused illusion.  Which is what the IT states it is. IT is proved true by the bioware in the EC. There. You're welcome. )

Wat.

In the EC, when the catalyst is presenting the options to you there is not an investigate diologe option (I want details\\ i don't understand etc) - you chose it the catalyst will further explein what the choice does, while he does that you are shown images. Those images are taken from the footage that is shown after the choice. What's there not to understand? 

Modifié par demersel, 24 août 2012 - 01:35 .

[CoolioThane]

That's because the 'bad writing' excuse is bull****

[GethPrimeMKII]

It irks me that some people have formed a theory around bad writing.

[Andromidius]

Arian Dynas wrote...

To me, the game felt better polished than MOST games I've seen in a while. Not one glitch on my first playthrough, not even a graphical one.

In-game, definately.  Very smooth gameplay.

But the cutscenes...  Yeah, they needed more work.  Particularly with remembering what weapons Shepard actually has, and making Shep draw them correctly.  Though that was a major problem with ME2 as well.

[Arian Dynas]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

It irks me that some people have formed a theory around bad writing.

No, bad writing is the abscence of a theory. It's an empty hole of an explanation that doesn't deserve to be bandied about.

[lex0r11]