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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Gwyphon

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lex0r11 wrote...

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So I wasn't the only one who immediately did this after noticing the screens relate to your directional facing?
I feel a little less,,, 'Special' now. :P

Top! Huzzah!

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Rosewind

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Lex!!

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CoolioThane

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God at least we've got a multiplayer event this week...oh wait it's not even a proper one :(

Still, only 4 days

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Andromidius

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New IT Documentary seems good so far.

Suprised he didn't bring up the fact the Marines on board the Normandy don't dismount to assist in the assault. If anything, the entire crew needed to dismount to help.

Not to mention the Marines giving covering fire. What are they shooting, exactly? They aren't shooting at Harbinger, and there are no other Reaper forces to be seen.

Sigh. That scene. So bad, at face value.

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CoolioThane wrote...

God at least we've got a multiplayer event this week...oh wait it's not even a proper one :(

Still, only 4 days


Yeah, I think its the 'crap, we couldn't think of a proper event' operation.  I've not done MP in about a month, and I can easily take part.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

It irks me that some people have formed a theory around bad writing.


No, bad writing is the abscence of a theory. It's an empty hole of an explanation that doesn't deserve to be bandied about.


Yep. That's what irks me about it. It goes against the definition of a theory.

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Andromidius wrote...

New IT Documentary seems good so far.

Suprised he didn't bring up the fact the Marines on board the Normandy don't dismount to assist in the assault. If anything, the entire crew needed to dismount to help.

Not to mention the Marines giving covering fire. What are they shooting, exactly? They aren't shooting at Harbinger, and there are no other Reaper forces to be seen.

Sigh. That scene. So bad, at face value.


Care to share a link?

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Andromidius

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Sigh. Documentary saying 'Serve Us' is false. After doing so well, doesn't even say its plausible. It blantantly is, otherwise why include it? Even if its a ****tease, even if its for 'cool factor'. He seemingly can't even give a reason WHY he's discounting it.

Consistancy, it matters.  He even says it right afterwards.  So...why?

Sigh.  Uber sigh.  Giga sigh.

Modifié par Andromidius, 24 août 2012 - 02:02 .


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Andromidius

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For the Documentary. Generally good, just...inconsistant.

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Andromidius wrote...

Sigh. Documentary saying 'Serve Us' is false. After doing so well, doesn't even say its plausible. It blantantly is, otherwise why include it? Even if its a ****tease, even if its for 'cool factor'. He seemingly can't even give a reason WHY he's discounting it.

Consistancy, it matters.  He even says it right afterwards.  So...why?

Sigh.  Uber sigh.  Giga sigh.

That's beause it is false. Bioware confirmed that it's just reaper noise. Not only that, you can hear other reapers make that same sound throughout the game.

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Andromidius

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Sigh. Documentary saying 'Serve Us' is false. After doing so well, doesn't even say its plausible. It blantantly is, otherwise why include it? Even if its a ****tease, even if its for 'cool factor'. He seemingly can't even give a reason WHY he's discounting it.

Consistancy, it matters.  He even says it right afterwards.  So...why?

Sigh.  Uber sigh.  Giga sigh.

That's beause it is false. Bioware confirmed that it's just reaper noise. Not only that, you can hear other reapers make that same sound throughout the game.


You really don't pay attention to what I say, since I addressed the 'other Reapers make the sound too' point many times.

And Bioware blantantly lie.  A lot.  Remember when they said they were going to fix and rerelease Deception?  Apperently they don't!

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Hmmm I just noticed how strange the wording on the weekend event is...

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Arian Dynas wrote...

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I know I'm late to the party on this one, but I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT THE CRUCIBLE WILL TURN THE CITADEL INTO A MASSIVE MASS ACCELERATOR CANNON FOR AGES NOW! :o


I hadn't seen your speculation on it since I came late to the whole IT party and didn't join in until Mark III.

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I don't know if this has been posted.

It is a good documentary

www.youtube.com/watch

Enjoy Guys!!! Cheers

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EpyonX3

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Andromidius wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Sigh. Documentary saying 'Serve Us' is false. After doing so well, doesn't even say its plausible. It blantantly is, otherwise why include it? Even if its a ****tease, even if its for 'cool factor'. He seemingly can't even give a reason WHY he's discounting it.

Consistancy, it matters.  He even says it right afterwards.  So...why?

Sigh.  Uber sigh.  Giga sigh.

That's beause it is false. Bioware confirmed that it's just reaper noise. Not only that, you can hear other reapers make that same sound throughout the game.


You really don't pay attention to what I say, since I addressed the 'other Reapers make the sound too' point many times.

And Bioware blantantly lie.  A lot.  Remember when they said they were going to fix and rerelease Deception?  Apperently they don't!


I'll admit I'm not on here as much as I used to so I may have missed your point about the reaper sound. Do you mind repeating it one more time?

And if bioware lies, how are we supposed to trust anything they say, like IT being true?

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GethPrimeMKII

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But they've never explicitly stated IT was true, unless I'm mistaken or I've missed something.

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 Just started watching CleverNoob's latest Documentary (sorry if you don't like him also spoilers for his documentary, I guess), heres a few things *I* took away from it:

(By the way, I know there is no way he could have put the video together without help from the community here but I'm going to refer to the thngs he says in the video as his stuff, just don't take it personally guys <3 )

-He begins his usual way but makes a good point with Rana Thanoptis, I don't believe it is a smoking gun but I believe he may believe it..
-Ugh we talked last night about how Eden Prime was'nt viable to use for indoctrination, but he brings it up...
-I don't see how Shepard had influence by the Thorian, unless he specifiacally means the Cipher, basically rehashing evidence from the previous games.
- :/ By his logic Shepard's squaddies are just as likely to be indoctrinated too
- Haha Prettz videos
-More Major Coats speculation
-I know we build on evidence but I just DO NOT believe Coates is Indoctrinated, besides everything after Harby's beam at Shepard is questioned.
-Never knew about the Crucible mission failure or dying while walking around...
-Interesting info about Squadmates death in EC, haha really hard to watch Tali and Garrus get torched :(
-I always believed Harbinger never fired on the Normandy because he wants Shepard to live (indoctrinated, but alive) and to me the fact that you do not hear Harbinger firing during the scene where your team mates board the Normandy and leave was for thematic purposes, i.e. you would rather hear your LI's dialogue than laser beams.
-Imlpying Synthetic warships that have destroyed civilizations for countless eons really on eyes to see...
- "Serve us" from Harbinger still up in the air.. He says it was already present in the dream sequence audio but never presents it... (at least as I'm watching this)

Well thats the 30 minute mark, I advise seeing the video for yourselves so we can all talk, argue, and speculate over it :)

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Arian Dynas

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

But they've never explicitly stated IT was true, unless I'm mistaken or I've missed something.


As far as I am concerned, phrases like;

"Layers of metaphor and subtle meaning."

and "Lots of cool symbolism in the ending"

Or "The Indoctrination Theory remains a valid possibility for the interpretation ofthe end of the game."

and "There are aspects of Mass Effect 3 with non-literal interpretations" are good enough for me.

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I have heard it mentioned multiple times but I have never definitively heard that sound that people say jerks Shepard and wakes him up. All I hear is Anderson's voice and then Shepard coughing, can anybody enlighten me?

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Rosewind wrote...

Hmmm I just noticed how strange the wording on the weekend event is...


How so? It seemed like the most boring operation description ever, was really expecting something cool after that Reaper data core was recovered.

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The very last thing Julian mentions is something called Project X, what is believed to be a massive DLC coming out early 2013 to mid 2013
He says his source belongs to "the inner circle of BW"

Opinions?

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Wow, the teleporting Coates thing doesn't even get a plausible? The Alliance -> Cerberus shuttle is also completely disregarded.... That really annoys me. If you're going to dismiss something as game mechanics, then explain HOW it is game mechanics. : /

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GethPrimeMKII

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Finished watching the documentary. Wasn't all that impressed.

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Gwyphon

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Ugh the last 20 minutes of the Extended Cut IT Theory Documentary makes me mad. I am now completely in agreeance with you Arian. God damn he came off as a spoiled brat.

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Ithurael wrote...

I don't know if this has been posted.

It is a good documentary

www.youtube.com/watch

Enjoy Guys!!! Cheers


Project X sounds intruiging.

A few logic leaps in your doco, but none as large as those made by the literal interpretation of the ending, lulz.

I hope IT or similar is true, I'm throwing money at BW just thinking about it.

Then I start crying and pick all the money up and say "not yet...bw, not yet..."