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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Norlond wrote...

The very last thing Julian mentions is something called Project X, what is believed to be a massive DLC coming out early 2013 to mid 2013
He says his source belongs to "the inner circle of BW"

Opinions?

If this is true, and the information comes from someone within Bioware's inner circle... then dear God - I'm excited. Mass Effect: Indoctrination could possibly be true. I guess in January - April 2013... the truth will out.

Modifié par RussianZombeh, 24 août 2012 - 03:04 .


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Lokanaiya wrote...

Wow, the teleporting Coates thing doesn't even get a plausible? The Alliance -> Cerberus shuttle is also completely disregarded.... That really annoys me. If you're going to dismiss something as game mechanics, then explain HOW it is game mechanics. : /


At least Coats being on the Citadel gets a confirmed

I liked the analysis of Starchilds response "[I'm] as much [an AI] as you are just an animal" though

But why the **** does he tell everyone to stop buying DLCs, never post on BSN anymore and to tell BW that you're pissed? That's not the way to go if you ask me <_<

RussianZombeh wrote...

Norlond wrote...

The
very last thing Julian mentions is something called Project X, what is
believed to be a massive DLC coming out early 2013 to mid 2013
He says his source belongs to "the inner circle of BW"

Opinions?

Wut?


www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Norlond, 24 août 2012 - 03:04 .


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I Don't see Bioware doing post breath-scene gameplay or anything substantial, remember that this specific scene only happens in High-EMS Destroy endings, and unless Bioware's Retcons this to happen in all but the lowest EMS endings, which undoubtly destroys the unvivrse once again i won't see this happen.

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Why is there no visible beam from London to the Citadel? Especially from a literalist point of view that does not make sense.

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Norlond wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Wow, the teleporting Coates thing doesn't even get a plausible? The Alliance -> Cerberus shuttle is also completely disregarded.... That really annoys me. If you're going to dismiss something as game mechanics, then explain HOW it is game mechanics. : /


At least Coats being on the Citadel gets a confirmed

I liked the analysis of Starchilds response "[I'm] as much [an AI] as you are just an animal" though

But why the **** does he tell everyone to stop buying DLCs, never post on BSN anymore and to tell BW that you're pissed? That's not the way to go if you ask me <_<

RussianZombeh wrote...

Norlond wrote...

The
very last thing Julian mentions is something called Project X, what is
believed to be a massive DLC coming out early 2013 to mid 2013
He says his source belongs to "the inner circle of BW"

Opinions?

Wut?


www.youtube.com/watch

I already saw the documentary, but skipped the end bit. Just went back and saw it now, edited my post :)

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By the way, in the coats on the citadel part of the documentary, clevernoobs talks about generic soldier that is there by the roch, before marouder shilds appear.... well that's the same soldier, that then becomes one of two soldiers in all the endings cinematics. Thus even more evidence that those cinematics - the consequences of your choice that you see after you've made it - that is a dream.

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wait, the whole rebar thing was a joke from Mike G. did he not say so right after making the comment?

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RussianZombeh wrote...

I already saw the documentary, but skipped the end bit. Just went back and saw it now, edited my post :)


Saw it, to me this Project X thingy just seems so... unlikely? A dream come true? Waaay to good to be true? Something like that.
I really want it to be true, but I heavily doubt this information :mellow:

Modifié par Norlond, 24 août 2012 - 03:09 .


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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Why is there no visible beam from London to the Citadel? Especially from a literalist point of view that does not make sense.


Lazy design, that's all i can point to.

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Norlond wrote...

The very last thing Julian mentions is something called Project X, what is believed to be a massive DLC coming out early 2013 to mid 2013
He says his source belongs to "the inner circle of BW"

Opinions?

Casey Hudson is actually my dad and I totally played that DLC already and I know Julian totally speaks teh truth about his inner circle of BW

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Created a new thread regarding "Project X". Speculation begins here: http://social.biowar.../index/13817665

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IsaacShep wrote...

Norlond wrote...

The very last thing Julian mentions is something called Project X, what is believed to be a massive DLC coming out early 2013 to mid 2013
He says his source belongs to "the inner circle of BW"

Opinions?

Casey Hudson is actually my dad and I totally played that DLC already and I know Julian totally speaks teh truth about his inner circle of BW


That's a good one :lol: Yeah as I said, I really doubt that Project X exists :?

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By the way, i'm sure it was discussed in full, but why are there Allience Soldiers in brand new uniform to take helmet off at the citadel at all??? (forget for a second that its Coats) how did they get there if no one made it to the beam but shepard?

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RussianZombeh wrote...

Created a new thread regarding "Project X". Speculation begins here: http://social.biowar.../index/13817665


Man if he gets the project cancelled... :bandit:

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Gwyphon wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Created a new thread regarding "Project X". Speculation begins here: http://social.biowar.../index/13817665


Man if he gets the project cancelled... :bandit:

If any thread was to get the IT DLC cancelled, it would be this one xD

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Excuse me....but I don't think a single thread is going to get an ending BioWare have planned for 5+ years to get cancelled. c.c

Modifié par Gallifreya, 24 août 2012 - 03:19 .


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Gallifreya wrote...

Excuse me....but I don't think a single thread is going to get an ending BioWare have planned for 5+ years to get cancelled. c.c


That 5 years in the making ending was cancelled... The dark matter one... Yeeeah... :whistle:

Modifié par Gwyphon, 24 août 2012 - 03:29 .


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Gwyphon wrote...

Gallifreya wrote...

Excuse me....but I don't think a single thread is going to get an ending BioWare have planned for 5+ years to get cancelled. c.c


That 5 years in the making ending was cancelled... The dark matter energy one... Yeeeah... :whistle:


Fixed :P

Maybe the orginal ending also included some form of indoctrination?

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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

I have heard it mentioned multiple times but I have never definitively heard that sound that people say jerks Shepard and wakes him up. All I hear is Anderson's voice and then Shepard coughing, can anybody enlighten me?


It's in the Extended Cut, where Shepard's arrival on the citadel is now shown and rather violent -- you are literally slamdunked into the floor, after seemingly materialising out of thin air -- you bounce and land prone.
The sound that accompanies the jolt, that goes through Shepard's body, sounds like something in-between a starter engine which fails and cuts off abruptly, and a short sharp release of compressed air.

It doesn't feel all too far-fetched to regard it as an in-hallucination representation of somebody at that time using a defibrilator on "the real Shepard", in London.

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where's hellish's vid? Link please. Cannot stand clevernoob. He's got a stake in his vids. i.e. it's a money issue.

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Norlond wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Gallifreya wrote...

Excuse me....but I don't think a single thread is going to get an ending BioWare have planned for 5+ years to get cancelled. c.c


That 5 years in the making ending was cancelled... The dark matter energy one... Yeeeah... :whistle:


Fixed :P

Maybe the orginal ending also included some form of indoctrination?


My bad.
Wouldn't it be amazing if this came full circle and indoctrination ends up being some expression of dark energy or something? ^_^

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Project X said to be false by Chris priestly on the thread

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legaldinho wrote...

where's hellish's vid? Link please. Cannot stand clevernoob. He's got a stake in his vids. i.e. it's a money issue.


I don't think it's up yet. He said yesterday he was aiming for 6pm (I don't remember the time zone :pinched:) but that if he had any tweaking to do it might push it back so all he promised was it would be up today sometime.

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Gwyphon wrote...
That 5 years in the making ending was cancelled... The dark matter one... Yeeeah... :whistle:

Nop. Dark Energy was one of many the ideas on the table. Do you know what's in ME2's files?  A codex entry on technological singularity. What you see in ME3 was one of the options as long as Dark Energy

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Just finished the documentary.
I kind of enjoyed his remade ending ideas but as a whole the documentary suffered because it was the longest ( I believe) out of all 3 vidocs, yet seemed to cover less content. The last 20-25 minutes of the whole thing started deteriorating because of it turned from what it should have been ( a logical and fair assessment and categorization of evidence ) into a Hold the Wallet campaign ad.

I can see how many people personally dislike Julian and his way of visualizing IT, I understand it, but I think most people also don't realize that thats just how he makes the videos ( I have seen almost all of his youtube uploads haha his Insanity walkthroughs are ******-poor ) but what the videos represent are much more important than him. Yes the latest documentary devolved into near worthlessness but, as a whole, his documentaries serve to strengthen our foundation. Maybe not on the level of succinct dependability like ACAVYOS's or There is Only One Choice, but they still matter in an outward interpretation of IT.

Sure, he doesn't post here (that I know of) and sure he makes outlandish claims (Project X, I lol'd) but we cannot just discount his dissertation due to such things.

Geez, I feel like I'm defending him or trying to push his views, trust me that is not my intention. But I would like everybody to keep a clear-head when judging evidence.
Mainly, I am making this post to invite everyone to speculate on any evidence or new view presented in CleverNoob's documentary and the upcoming TiOOC documentary so that we can keep IT alive up to and past Leviathan.