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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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is it just me or do the cave paintings in this trailer look less like asari than they did in the first Leviathan trailer?  I don't see the head crests anymore, instead the heads look distinctly round and more human, See?

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Here are my interesting things:

1. A hanar

2. Looks like the reapers themselves don't seem too happy about Shepard trying to find Leviathan.

3. Looks like Shepard may be able to see some beacon-style flashbacks or something.

4. New form of indoctrination: Assume control of a victim but has no lasting consequences.

5. Did a brute just explode?

6. EDI has an assault rifle?

7. The schism between reapers is growing?

8. Someone is holding the line.

I'll be back soon, what do you all think? Posted Image

5, I'm assuming, is due to the gun.

4, i wouldn't call new, as Ebuchala pointed out, the collector general wasn't glowing when Harbinger assumed control of it. My theory here is that the collector mobs Harbinger assumes control of are expendable, but the Collector General is not up until Shepard stops them.

Also bear in mind that Leviathan may also be able to kick people or things out of their own minds without the presence of reaper tech OR, the fact that Shepard gets kicked out of his/her own mind is specifically hinting to us that Shepard has exploitable reaper tech/has some growing form of indoctrination that we've already known/speculated about. 

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Arashi08 wrote...

is it just me or do the cave paintings in this trailer look less like asari than they did in the first Leviathan trailer?  I don't see the head crests anymore, instead the heads look distinctly round and more human, See?


I think they're the same, look here www.youtube.com/watch and here www.youtube.com/watch
It's the same parts of the painting and there aren't any differences as far as I can tell

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Norlond wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

is it just me or do the cave paintings in this trailer look less like asari than they did in the first Leviathan trailer?  I don't see the head crests anymore, instead the heads look distinctly round and more human, See?


I think they're the same, look here www.youtube.com/watch and here www.youtube.com/watch
It's the same parts of the painting and there aren't any differences as far as I can tell

Then why do people keep saying they look like asari in the paintings?  as they are, the drawings look more human than asari.  Plus I could've sworn those drawings of people had the asari crests on their heads, but BW might have changed it since the first trailer came out.

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Arashi08 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

is it just me or do the cave paintings in this trailer look less like asari than they did in the first Leviathan trailer?  I don't see the head crests anymore, instead the heads look distinctly round and more human, See?


I think they're the same, look here www.youtube.com/watch and here www.youtube.com/watch
It's the same parts of the painting and there aren't any differences as far as I can tell

Then why do people keep saying they look like asari in the paintings?  as they are, the drawings look more human than asari.  Plus I could've sworn those drawings of people had the asari crests on their heads, but BW might have changed it since the first trailer came out.


As I said, they look unchanged to me

They look quite human to me too, and shouldn't ancient asari paintings be blue or something? ;)

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Yes este's sister! That Slender Man is pretty incongruous too :|

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Arashi08 wrote...

is it just me or do the cave paintings in this trailer look less like asari than they did in the first Leviathan trailer?  I don't see the head crests anymore, instead the heads look distinctly round and more human, See?

Yup, it looks more like hair now.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Yes este's sister! That Slender Man is pretty incongruous too :|

I see no such damn thing there.

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At 0:40 where the windows shatter it looks like Shepard and squadmates are trying to block their ears from a sound which comes from the guy who’s indoctrinated, or at least the room he’s in. Infrasonic/ultrasonic waves maybe?

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I'm more interested in why that Brute attacks another one.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Yes este's sister! That Slender Man is pretty incongruous too :|

Have you played the game "slender?" I'm normally easily not scared, but that game made me almost ****** my pants!

Modifié par estebanus, 24 août 2012 - 07:29 .


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FFZero wrote...

At 0:40 where the windows shatter it looks like Shepard and squadmates are trying to block their ears from a sound which comes from the guy who’s indoctrinated, or at least the room he’s in. Infrasonic/ultrasonic waves maybe?


That's one possibility. You can actually hear a noise in the trailer, like opening a rusty metal door or something.
But do you see how the doc is standing behind that window while it's shattering? LIKE A BAWS :lol:

paxxton wrote...

I'm more interested in why that Brute attacks another one.


Norlond wrote...
7. Leaviathan faction vs. Harbinger faction I guess

;)

*edit* you could compare that to the two darkspawn factions in DA: Awakening: Architect faction vs. Mother faction, wouldn't be the first time an enemy faction is split into two rivaling parts

Modifié par Norlond, 24 août 2012 - 07:34 .


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The name leviathan have human mythology procedence, maybe the cave painting figures are humans after all.

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I already was having a hard time waiting for Tuesday...then they had to put the trailer front and center at the website...I want it now (please read in an extremely whiny voice)!

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Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I'm more interested in why that Brute attacks another one.


Norlond wrote...
7. Leaviathan faction vs. Harbinger faction I guess

;)

*edit* you could compare that to the two darkspawn factions in DA: Awakening: Architect faction vs. Mother faction, wouldn't be the first time an enemy faction is split into two rivaling parts

Haven't played DA but makes sense that Leviathan would try to influence Reaper forces. If his indoctrination is stronger, they will follow him.

Modifié par paxxton, 24 août 2012 - 07:40 .


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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here are my interesting things:

1. A hanar

2. Looks like the reapers themselves don't seem too happy about Shepard trying to find Leviathan.

3. Looks like Shepard may be able to see some beacon-style flashbacks or something.

4. New form of indoctrination: Assume control of a victim but has no lasting consequences.

5. Did a brute just explode?

6. EDI has an assault rifle?

7. The schism between reapers is growing?

8. Someone is holding the line.

I'll be back soon, what do you all think? Posted Image

5, I'm assuming, is due to the gun

Nope, I've used the Raider, and it does not make things explode. The interesting thing there is brutes can't explode (yet).

Edit: Maybe it was a Blackstar. That might have done it.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 24 août 2012 - 07:45 .


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Norlond wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Here are my interesting things:

1. A hanar

2. Looks like the reapers themselves don't seem too happy about Shepard trying to find Leviathan.

3. Looks like Shepard may be able to see some beacon-style flashbacks or something.

4. New form of indoctrination: Assume control of a victim but has no lasting consequences.

5. Did a brute just explode?

6. EDI has an assault rifle?

7. The schism between reapers is growing?

8. Someone is holding the line.

I'll be back soon, what do you all think? Posted Image


1. Where exactly do you see that hanar?
2. Leviathan could be a threat, or what Leviathan tells Shepard could be a "threat"
3. Did he have a flashback during Firewalker? I don't remember..
4. Absolutely no idea, very odd thing without any implants
5. Return of the Heavy Weapons?
6. Umm... Squad customization?
7. Leaviathan faction vs. Harbinger faction I guess
8. Could be the docs' daughter, it was a human hand i think

As I said, we really need this split up into frames, where's Megumi? :lol:

1. Right side of the screen.
3. I don't think so; I just have a feeling.
5. Don't think so, but it was only interesting because brutes can't explode like cannibals, troopers etc.
6. EDI can use SMGs and pistols, not ARs.
7. I would say it's more like Morinth's Domination power. I find it unlikely Leviathan could make brutes on his own, better yet make them the same as normal. It's more likely he "hacked" it.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 24 août 2012 - 07:43 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...
1. Right side of the screen.
3. I don't think so; I just have a feeling.
5. Don't think so, but it was only interesting because brutes can't explode like cannibals, troopers etc.
6. EDI can use SMGs and pistols, not ARs.
7.
I would say it's more like Morinth's Domination power. I find it
unlikely Leviathan could make brutes on his own, better yet make them
the same as normal. It's more likely he "hacked" it.


1. Mhm could be..
6. Yeah I meant you could buy Squad upgrades, allowing them to carry different types of weapons
7. agree, never said the brutes were made by him ;)

Modifié par Norlond, 24 août 2012 - 07:45 .


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Norlond wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
1. Right side of the screen.
3. I don't think so; I just have a feeling.
5. Don't think so, but it was only interesting because brutes can't explode like cannibals, troopers etc.
6. EDI can use SMGs and pistols, not ARs.
7.
I would say it's more like Morinth's Domination power. I find it
unlikely Leviathan could make brutes on his own, better yet make them
the same as normal. It's more likely he "hacked" it.


1. Mhm could be..
6. Yeah I meant you could buy Squad upgrades, allowing them to carry different types of weapons

1. I think it's either a hanar or a very badly drawn reaper. Edit: Or a very badly drawn human/asari
6. That would be cool, but I think now it may be because it's a cutscene. Squadmates almost always use ARs in cutscenes after all.

Edit: I'll be back later.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 24 août 2012 - 07:50 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...
1. I think it's either a hanar or a very badly drawn reaper. Edit: Or a very badly drawn human/asari
6. That would be cool, but I think now it may be because it's a cutscene. Squadmates almost always use ARs in cutscenes after all.


1.

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Is that guy able to paint a "realistic" Reaper? :P

6. You're probably right, it was just wishful thinking :?

*edit* I'll be back later too ^_^

Modifié par Norlond, 24 août 2012 - 08:01 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...


Nope, I've used the Raider, and it does not make things explode. The interesting thing there is brutes can't explode (yet).

Edit: Maybe it was a Blackstar. That might have done it.


It didn't look like a blackstar or sound like one, now that you mention it. It is the Raider, too. And it can't be carnage(or i guess it could be if James is there?). It actually looks and sounds like inferno grenades to me without any grenades around

Nothing to say about point four though?

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prettz wrote...

2 vids out today hmmm I'll try to get a short gag one I'm working on tonight as well but needs cleaning up. right now I'm getting some sleep

sneak peek for those that have not seen the gif yet.
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2 vids? Noobs and...? 

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Norlond wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
1. Right side of the screen.
3. I don't think so; I just have a feeling.
5. Don't think so, but it was only interesting because brutes can't explode like cannibals, troopers etc.
6. EDI can use SMGs and pistols, not ARs.
7.
I would say it's more like Morinth's Domination power. I find it
unlikely Leviathan could make brutes on his own, better yet make them
the same as normal. It's more likely he "hacked" it.


1. Mhm could be..
6. Yeah I meant you could buy Squad upgrades, allowing them to carry different types of weapons

1. I think it's either a hanar or a very badly drawn reaper. Edit: Or a very badly drawn human/asari
6. That would be cool, but I think now it may be because it's a cutscene. Squadmates almost always use ARs in cutscenes after all.

Edit: I'll be back later.


1. It has a "head" at the top (or a rounded protusion of some sort coming out of the top portion of it's "body"), if you're talking about the drawing on the far right that looks kind of separated from the other drawings. Wouldn't think reaper because the image hovering over the people on the left looks like a pretty good representation of a reaper to me. Edit: Or a giant space beetle.

But I'm really nowhere near as good at picking up on the subtleties that you guys see so it's very possible I'm wrong :D

6. I was afraid of this myself. I'm hoping it's a playable scene but expect it's just a cutscene.

Modifié par ebuchala, 24 août 2012 - 08:12 .


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estebanus wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Yes este's sister! That Slender Man is pretty incongruous too :|

Have you played the game "slender?" I'm normally easily not scared, but that game made me almost ****** my pants!


Not yet! Been planning to but I spilled lemonade on my laptop a month ago and they still haven't fixed it :/ 

Have you seen Marble Hornets or EverymanHybrid? They're pretty good :)

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Edit: derp nvm. >.<

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 24 août 2012 - 08:33 .