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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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TSA_383 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

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Where did this whole "Project X" thing start?


Julian's new doc, Chris was very quick to deny it though :huh:


I used that phrase a lot when referring to what I thought BW were probably working on in youtube comments and such...

Actually... I got a message a week ago asking about "Project X" from one of my youtube comments.I think they'd grasped the wrong end of the stick.
Let this not be my doing :D


You may have started a new conspiracy, be proud of yourself B)

*edit* TOP, take that, the newcomer did it!!! :o

Modifié par Norlond, 24 août 2012 - 10:59 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Where did this whole "Project X" thing start?


Julian's new doc, Chris was very quick to deny it though :huh:


I used that phrase a lot when referring to what I thought BW were probably working on in youtube comments and such...

Actually... I got a message a week ago asking about "Project X" from one of my youtube comments.I think they'd grasped the wrong end of the stick.
Let this not be my doing :D


well the title Project X could be usde as a cover up, to trick us into thinking that's what it's really called, but I really have no clue. Some operations have code names. To hide the real name of the project.

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Twilight you say 'your theory' despite saying you made up an identical theory right?

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The Twilight God wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

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How do you guys feel about the whole Coats thing, the first time I even heard of it was in Noob's video.


Assuming you're talking about what I think you're talking about...

It's just the model they used for the body having its helmet removed. You can't use flycam footage that the player isn't even supposed to be able to see to prove something.


I'm going to have to disagree with you on that.  Why use Coats in the first place? He wasn't modeled to have on a helmet so that means they had to tweek him in the first place to put the helmet on his model. Why not use the random soilders? Why use someone who we know can't be at the Citidel? More on to that why did they make him and that Keeper disappear? If he was supposed to be part of the map then why not leave him there? I think they did it to add fuel to the fire.  Maybe it means nothing or may be it means something big but it is odd as heck for BW to do that.


It's captured by a flycam. So what. You're not even supposed to see it. It will never pass as legitimate evidence. It's like saying the docking chamber doesn't exist because Bioware didn't render the entire Crucible. Only other people predispostioned to believe the your theory would accept such incredibly weak arguments.


It's circumstantial evidence and of a totally secondary nature. Some people here find it more compelling, but I don't. Things like this are far stronger.

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Hey everyone! Choose Wisely Episode 1 is finally here. I am extremely happy to finally be able to share this with you guys. It's been an interesting 2 months since I released the pilot video for Choose Wisely on the day before the EC, and the landscape for the Indoctrination Theory has changed and evolved in many ways since then. It's been a blast making this video, and I hope you all enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed making it. 

The fact of the matter is, in light of the EC, the themes that will be covered in Choose Wisely are now more relevant than ever. Big things are coming, the first of which will be on this Tuesday. The sooner we get to the bottom of what's really going on, the sooner we can Choose Wisely.

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Choose Wisely - Episode 1

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These videos will be posted on both channels, with alternating channels being the "featured" channel for future episodes (meaning, the video will come out on the "featured" channel the day before it comes out on the other channel"), so make sure to subscribe to both of us!

I look forward to sharing many more of these with you in the coming months!

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So excited about next week. Can't wait to cook up some fresh speculations!

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HellishFiend wrote...

Hey everyone! Choose Wisely Episode 1 is finally here


Nice, finally!!! I'm going to watch this and then go to bed, good night to you all -_-

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And no narration by me! Which is fine anyway, no-one trusts an Englishman. We're just too damn prim and proper.

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YES! Choose wisely FTW

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MaximizedAction wrote...

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Not sure what you are talking about. Not even sure we're talking about the same thing.

Could you link the material you're referring to?


Vids made by prettz:

Gunswap:

and


Coats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOOGUx2huw

Enjoy!


This makes me think of Ancient Aliens show with the guy with the crazy purple hair. Everything leads to "it's a hallucination". The whole series must be a hallucination because my adept in ME wields a assault rifle in some cutscenes. Shepard must have been losing his mind from the get go. It's only something a person who is already predispostioned to accept it would believe. It's kinda out there. Interesting, but highly circumstantial. It simply isn't obvious enough and isn't really based around anything important.

I think Anderson's radio chat with Shepard is more revealing in regard to it being a hallucination. As they could have fixed that by stepping up the lines so that Anderson is done talking about the moving walls before Shepard exits the intial corridor. Or put a room before the console room so that we can see that it is there when we first enter the bridge area. Instead they left it the same.

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The Twilight God wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...
Not sure what you are talking about. Not even sure we're talking about the same thing.

Could you link the material you're referring to?


Vids made by prettz:

Gunswap:

and


Coats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOOGUx2huw

Enjoy!


This makes me think of Ancient Aliens show with the guy with the crazy purple hair. Everything leads to "it's a hallucination". The whole series must be a hallucination because my adept in ME wields a assault rifle in some cutscenes. Shepard must have been losing his mind from the get go. It's only something a person who is already predispostioned to accept it would believe. It's kinda out there. Interesting, but highly circumstantial. It simply isn't obvious enough and isn't really based around anything important.

I think Anderson's radio chat with Shepard is more revealing in regard to it being a hallucination. As they could have fixed that by stepping up the lines so that Anderson is done talking about the moving walls before Shepard exits the intial corridor. Or put a room before the console room so that we can see that it is there when we first enter the bridge area. Instead they left it the same.


And you would think that Anderson would go find Shepard. Think about it if Shepard was indanger or badly wounded, then Anderson would have go to save Shepard. Think about it if he followed Shepard up, then he should have knowne that Shepard was in bad shape, and could barly stand up. And you would think Anderson would have been next to Shepard helping fight of three husk, and a marauder. But no he doesn't.

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The Twilight God wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...
Not sure what you are talking about. Not even sure we're talking about the same thing.

Could you link the material you're referring to?


Vids made by prettz:

Gunswap:

and


Coats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOOGUx2huw

Enjoy!


This makes me think of Ancient Aliens show with the guy with the crazy purple hair. Everything leads to "it's a hallucination". The whole series must be a hallucination because my adept in ME wields a assault rifle in some cutscenes. Shepard must have been losing his mind from the get go. It's only something a person who is already predispostioned to accept it would believe. It's kinda out there. Interesting, but highly circumstantial. It simply isn't obvious enough and isn't really based around anything important.

I think Anderson's radio chat with Shepard is more revealing in regard to it being a hallucination. As they could have fixed that by stepping up the lines so that Anderson is done talking about the moving walls before Shepard exits the intial corridor. Or put a room before the console room so that we can see that it is there when we first enter the bridge area. Instead they left it the same.


I agree about the bolded part being stronger. The other circumstantial evidence is not as compelling individually, but as it starts pilling up and adding onto things like the radio chat or Hackett mysteriously knowing that Shepard reached the Citadel, but not Anderson, that circumstantial evidence starts feeling more and more relevant.

Keep in mind that we are interpreting a text, not solving a murder. Author intent and economy have weight here. If something was placed into the narrative, chances are it was placed intentionally until evidence shows otherwise.  Circumstantial evidence has much more weight under these circumstances ;)

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[quote]HellishFiend wrote...

Hey everyone! Choose Wisely Episode 1 is finally here. I am extremely happy to finally be able to share this with you guys. It's been an interesting 2 months since I released the pilot video for Choose Wisely on the day before the EC, and the landscape for the Indoctrination Theory has changed and evolved in many ways since then. It's been a blast making this video, and I hope you all enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed making it. 

The fact of the matter is, in light of the EC, the themes that will be covered in Choose Wisely are now more relevant than ever. Big things are coming, the first of which will be on this Tuesday. The sooner we get to the bottom of what's really going on, the sooner we can Choose Wisely.

Posted Image
Choose Wisely - Episode 1

Turbo J's Channel
HellishFiend's Channel

These videos will be posted on both channels, with alternating channels being the "featured" channel for future episodes (meaning, the video will come out on the "featured" channel the day before it comes out on the other channel"), so make sure to subscribe to both of us!

I look forward to sharing many more of these with you in the coming months!

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That was awsome, but how many more epsidoes will you do?

#13414
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masster blaster wrote...

That was awsome, but how many more epsidoes will you do?


Glad you liked it!  We are planning on running the series up until the reveal, or until we run out of material. We'll just have to see which comes first. :lol:

Modifié par HellishFiend, 24 août 2012 - 11:45 .


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Considering the amount of material available, you can make a pretty long series out of it.

And I enjoyed it. Even if I got some creepy vibes off one of those pictures of MaleShep.

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Hellish... That was a great video. I'm gonna have to get estebanus to see it when he has time.

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Gotta say I love the credits montage and music. Great great band for these videos.

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Wow! Choose Wisely is so enlightening. You, Hellish and TurboJ, noticed some really peculiar things. So amazing.

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Finally joined this thread, respect to all the fellow indoctrination theory believers. Honestly I do not have hi hopes for Leviathan revealing what most of us have been waiting for, the ec wasn't planned, they probably didn't want to reveal it in the first single player dlc anyway. Though I have no idea when they will reveal the breath scene with Shepard waking up, I think that the future omega dlc is going to have Shepard facing off the remaining crippled Cerberus members including the token black bad guy from the comic and a boss battle with the illusive man transformed similar to how he looked in the collectors edition concept art.

Also anyone know any easier ways to get a damn custom avatar on here. I need to have venom from spiderman 3 because ERIC FORMAN AS VENOM IS EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ginissss wrote...

Finally joined this thread, respect to all the fellow indoctrination theory believers. Honestly I do not have hi hopes for Leviathan revealing what most of us have been waiting for, the ec wasn't planned, they probably didn't want to reveal it in the first single player dlc anyway. Though I have no idea when they will reveal the breath scene with Shepard waking up, I think that the future omega dlc is going to have Shepard facing off the remaining crippled Cerberus members including the token black bad guy from the comic and a boss battle with the illusive man transformed similar to how he looked in the collectors edition concept art.

Also anyone know any easier ways to get a damn custom avatar on here. I need to have venom from spiderman 3 because ERIC FORMAN AS VENOM IS EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Welcome!

I can't help you about the avatar myself. As you can see, I haven't figured it out myself :(

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Ginissss wrote...

Finally joined this thread, respect to all the fellow indoctrination theory believers. Honestly I do not have hi hopes for Leviathan revealing what most of us have been waiting for, the ec wasn't planned, they probably didn't want to reveal it in the first single player dlc anyway. Though I have no idea when they will reveal the breath scene with Shepard waking up, I think that the future omega dlc is going to have Shepard facing off the remaining crippled Cerberus members including the token black bad guy from the comic and a boss battle with the illusive man transformed similar to how he looked in the collectors edition concept art.

Also anyone know any easier ways to get a damn custom avatar on here. I need to have venom from spiderman 3 because ERIC FORMAN AS VENOM IS EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


welcome :ph34r:, and ask Banshee, smokingotter, Hellish, and Arian. They know how to do that.

Modifié par masster blaster, 24 août 2012 - 11:50 .


#13422
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Thanks guys! Know you all enjoy it makes it worth the time spent. =)

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HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

That was awsome, but how many more epsidoes will you do?


Glad you liked it!  We are planning on running the series up until the reveal, or until we run out of material. We'll just have to see which comes first. :lol:


OH WOW FINALLY :lol:
I've been waiting for this for a long time now.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Thanks guys! Know you all enjoy it makes it worth the time spent. =)


The production values on the video were really great.

Bonus points for German metal :D

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Like I said before from a video game design and mapping point of view using Coats model makes no sense. We know, that Coats is still alive so how is he on the Citadel? Why use him at all? Maybe it was put there because they know people would nitpick with Flycam? I could see them messing with us like that. lol.