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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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leonia42 wrote...

I assumed "I am not alone" was referring to the hive mind or global concience that everyone becomes a part of in synthesis.

Is the "hive mind" part of the literal thing now? I assumed that consensus-thought wouldn't really be a part of synthesis... although if you look at what the reapers mean by synthesis...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys I am sorry for my rude behavior last night, but I found some very entertaining info on Hacketts 999.


What is 999?

999 is "UK emergency number"

http://www.internets...-definition.asp

 
999 in the UK serves exactly the same function as 911 in the US.

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RavenEyry wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

What is 999?

999 is "UK emergency number"

http://www.internets...-definition.asp

First, I do know my own countrys emergency number.
Second, Hackett says 990.

I told you so yesterday. 990.

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You guys think the illuminati have anything to do with IT?

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999 is 666 upside down. 666 is Harbinger's cell phone number.

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squee365 wrote...

You guys think the illuminati have anything to do with IT?

Nah they disbanded, like, a hundred years ago.

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Rifneno wrote...

I never understood the love for Star Wars. John Williams was the only thing outstanding about it.


Rif, is there ANYTHING you like?

Before you answer, think about it. If the answer is about to be "no" really SERIOUSLY consider some greif counseling.

Not to be offensive, but you're one of the most bitter people I've seen. And for someone whom does have a good deal of noble character and intellect like yours...

Well, take it from someone else who's depressive. No one deserves that.

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TSA_383 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

I assumed "I am not alone" was referring to the hive mind or global concience that everyone becomes a part of in synthesis.

Is the "hive mind" part of the literal thing now? I assumed that consensus-thought wouldn't really be a part of synthesis... although if you look at what the reapers mean by synthesis...


No idea but given that nobody else knows exactly what synthesis entails.. well, that was the idea that made the most sense to me given how organics and synthetics can easily share knowledge with one another.

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Cecilia L wrote...

I'm sure this has been discussed countless times already and that others have made the same discoveries and had the same thoughts earlier. I have, however, rediscovered something interesting that I felt like bringing up here, though I sincerely apologize if it's already been analyzed 50 times.

Anyway, the topic is 1M1 and here are my thoughts on it.

I've seen mentions of this puzzling text before, but have not read in detail what others have thought of it, therefore it was a revelation to me last night playing the ending when I started thinking and playing around with what it might mean.

1M1
One M One
One Am One
I Am One
One Am I
I Am I
I M I

Those are the possible meanings I came up with. First of all, I don't believe it is possible that they just happened to put a architectural thingy with the text on it there. The whole citadel level must have been designed meticulously because of its importance in terms of story. They would think before they put human writing where no one has gone before. Therefore -

1) 1M1 is deliberatly put there.

This is a message to the players. And as gamers are the one group of people that are the most accustomed to using numbers instead of letters, all the time it would seem in gamer tags in fact, it is not such a stretch that the ones in 1M1 could be I, or that M could be short for "am" for that matter. So i find -

2) "I am one" is the meaning that makes the most sense (or "One am I", but that's just the Yoda version)

But what does it mean?

Now here comes the interpretation part. Is it Shepard's mind that is telling her that "I am one"="I am also one of those indoctrinated"?/"I am a reaper"? Or is it significant that the writing is on the citadel itselt saying the citadel is one? The citaldel is a reaper? It's yet another warning that Shepard can't trust the station? And therefore not Starbrat either as the citadel is part of him?

"I (the citadel, the catalyst) AM ONE(a reaper)" therefore don't trust it!

That's the message that made the most sense to me anyway. Thoughts?

1*(M^(-1)) 

Convergence formula.

Convergence, the place in a Cathode Ray tube where red, blue and green light meet to form a picture.

But yeah, 1M1 is a re-used asset from ME1. Yet more proof of Shepard building things from his mind. In this case, he'd likely associate 1M1 with a Reaper though, since it was on the tower climb in ME1.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 01 août 2012 - 04:46 .


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Rifneno wrote...

999 is 666 upside down. 666 is Harbinger's cell phone number.


http://www.youtube.c...IMUkEAd1M#t=13s

Watch it all the way through. 

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leonia42 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

I assumed "I am not alone" was referring to the hive mind or global concience that everyone becomes a part of in synthesis.

Is the "hive mind" part of the literal thing now? I assumed that consensus-thought wouldn't really be a part of synthesis... although if you look at what the reapers mean by synthesis...


No idea but given that nobody else knows exactly what synthesis entails.. well, that was the idea that made the most sense to me given how organics and synthetics can easily share knowledge with one another.


And according to Mike Gamble's tweet, there's no clarification to be expected, either. (Even though a codex entry is a matter of techno babble that should take approx. the same amount of time like the planet info entries)

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 01 août 2012 - 04:48 .


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*Sherlock Holmes Mode activated* 
SCP-990
 

After over 40 hours of sleep, Subject awakened in a highly agitated state. Subject reportedly ran through the facility yelling loudly about "the end of the world."

 
*Sherlock Holmes Mode deactivated*
I know it stupid but still.. :wizard:

Modifié par LtBehemoth, 01 août 2012 - 04:54 .


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LtBehemoth wrote...

*Sherlock Holmes Mode activated* 
SCP-990
 

After over 40 hours of sleep, Subject awakened in a highly agitated state. Subject reportedly ran through the facility yelling loudly about "the end of the world."

 
*Sherlock Holmes Mode deactivated*

Good find. Extremely unlikely to be on purpose but I like it.

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Priss Blackburne wrote...

Please don't state stuff like "Banshee is Chris" or that you really think they are. Comments like that will get a thread locked. Seen it happen many many times on SWTOR because they didn't want any confusion about statements attributed to Bioware.

And it's pretty sad when we get so desperate we start saying that the people in this thread supporting indoctination theory are really bioware employees so that proves we are right nyeh nyeh.

I was joking , but masterr was serious :huh:

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LtBehemoth wrote...

*Sherlock Holmes Mode activated* 
SCP-990
 

After over 40 hours of sleep, Subject awakened in a highly agitated state. Subject reportedly ran through the facility yelling loudly about "the end of the world."

 
*Sherlock Holmes Mode deactivated*
I know it stupid but still.. :wizard:


Let's please not clutch at straws :lol:

MaximizedAction wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

I assumed "I am not alone" was referring to the hive mind or global concience that everyone becomes a part of in synthesis.

Is the "hive mind" part of the literal thing now? I assumed that consensus-thought wouldn't really be a part of synthesis... although if you look at what the reapers mean by synthesis...


No idea but given that nobody else knows exactly what synthesis entails.. well, that was the idea that made the most sense to me given how organics and synthetics can easily share knowledge with one another. 


And according to Mike Gamble's tweet, there's no clarification to be expected, either. (Even though a codex entry is a matter of techno babble that should take approx. the same amount of time like the planet info entries)

 
There's no codex entry, but that doesn't mean the game won't make very clear in future exactly what Synthesis entails ;)

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Honestly I think with Leviathan and meeting the first attempt the "Catalyst" AI had at creating a reaper organism, and the changes to the choice dialogue, it's going to be ****ing obvious what synthesis is once people have played that...

Modifié par TSA_383, 01 août 2012 - 05:10 .


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LOL

Modifié par paxxton, 01 août 2012 - 05:11 .


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leonia42 wrote...

So, what do you ITists make of Hackett's success message?

http://blog.bioware....rwatch-success/

From: Admiral Steven Hackett
Re: Operation OVERWATCH
Confidentiality classification: XB-PRIME
Distribution: N7 Forces Only

Soldiers of the Milky Way –

By now you have probably heard that Operation OVERWATCH succeeded on
many fronts. Frankly, I would not be surprised if this message goes
unread until tomorrow due to excessive celebrating. You have struck the
Reapers where they are strongest and lived to tell the tale. Credit goes
to you, to those shuttle pilots who retrieved your teams, and to the
many personnel who supported and planned the missions.

But I also want to speak to some of what you may be seeing in the
media soon. Eventually, it will be public knowledge that we had
operations on Earth, retrieving data and personnel necessary for the
military and economic well-being of the galaxy.

This success will bring hope to billions of people. It will also
enrage some of them. Be prepared for the tough questions – when are we
starting our full-scale assault? Why retrieve this helium-3 magnate but
not another one, or save my loved ones? Who are you to play God?


There are no good answers to these questions. The reality is, the
Reapers have almost every conceivable advantage — numbers, firepower,
technology – and we make do with what we have. We strike and retreat
because facing the foe head-on would be a disaster. Nowhere is this
truer than at Earth.

We have started to give them a death by a thousand cuts. Take heart
in this, celebrate, and relax tonight. Tomorrow morning, we will get
down to business, because there’s nine hundred and ninety left to go.

–Admiral Hackett


It's definitely more thorough than past success/failure messages have been. Let the speculations commence!


Is this...
A message about this upcoming massive press event tomorrow? :huh:

Also, I'm not as fond of my demolisher as I'd hoped, just played my first match with it (on gold, probably not the best place to test new characters but still...).

Appears to be armoured like this guy:
Image IPB

Modifié par TSA_383, 01 août 2012 - 05:16 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

Appears to be armoured like this guy

With a beard?

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 *walks out*
*walks back in and sees 30+ pages added* :o:blink:

Miss anything big with ME3? Finished my social experiment with BSN. Seems that people like to argue on things more than they do on agreeing. I know....mind blowing... 

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squee365 wrote...

You guys think the illuminati have anything to do with IT?


Nope.

Wanna ask a real question now, or are you gonna keep saying stupid ****?

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RavenEyry wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Appears to be armoured like this guy

With a beard?


Response error. Here we go....

http://t1.gstatic.co...jimtSQ5wVyii3AQ

Meant to respond to something different, but as I already put down a meme, might as well have another....

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 01 août 2012 - 05:31 .


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Too quiet....

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There'll be a bombshell soon. Image IPB

Modifié par paxxton, 01 août 2012 - 05:42 .


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Update on operation: change avatar.
Image uploaded for some time, still no sign of it.

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Howdy! Behold my new avatar!

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RavenEyry

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It's the joker!