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Norlond

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Finally some people show up, I've been here all day and just waited for someone to post something :P

*edit* TOP! I could get used to this :o

Modifié par Norlond, 25 août 2012 - 03:28 .


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StElmo wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

This totally convinced me IT is true, but the developers do the complete opposite, so how does one reconcile thre fact we will never see shepard wake up?

Only bad thing about IT is the possibiliy that there is no new ending, otherwise its quite well tied together.!

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMO.

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Hellish stop being so gracious...we thank you and Turbo for all of your hard work. Times like this make me wish that I have contributed more...

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Norlond wrote...

Finally some people show up, I've been here all day and just waited for someone to post something :P

*edit* TOP! I could get used to this :o


Love your avatar, was my old one <3

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Billyg3453 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

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I'm just curious of people's position here on whether they support Con or Dream now?

Which one is more popular?


What do you mean, I am still waking up, so sorry. That I am not sure what you rae talking about.

I mean do people here mostly support the idea that just the Catalyst isn't real, or that the ending is a dream sequence?


Well the way I see it is that. Yes he is real, but he is not the Leader/
the Creator of the Reapers. You see I see the Catalyst as made from
Shepard's memory's. How else did the Reapers now about the child. I
really don't think out of all the people they have died in this war,
that were Shepard's friends, it could have taken the form out of
anything, but it didn't.

Also well first it start as a dream,
when Harbinger hit's Shepard, or when the Veiachle crashes into the huge
ditch. Then when Shepard goes up to meet the Catalyst, it's a mixture
of dream, and reality. You ever heard of a dream that you in, and once
you wake up, your in another place. That's what is happening to Shepard.
He, or she is still in London, where the Conduit is, and depending on
Shepard's choice, and EMS wakes up on Destroy.

It makes sense.
Think about this, when Shepard is on all four's he/she is awake, and has
to wait for the child to tell Shepard to wake up. Isn't it weird that
Shepard has to wait for the Catalyst to say " Wake up". Not to mention
you can see clearly that Shepard is awake because his/her head looks to
the Catalyst, and once you put his/her head down. The eyes are still
open.

Modifié par masster blaster, 25 août 2012 - 03:34 .


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paxxton wrote...

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMo.


I still believe BWs statement that ME3 will be the end of Shepards story, so IF IT is revealed, it will be in a top secret surprise DLC
You know, something like that Project X (I know Chris denied it, but who are we to believe in what he says :lol:)

smokingotter1 wrote...

Love your avatar, was my old one [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]


Yeah, saw that when I was a lurker, kin of stole it from you B)
I tried about 5 times to upload a custom ava but it's obviously not working

Modifié par Norlond, 25 août 2012 - 03:33 .


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smokingotter1 wrote...

StElmo wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

merttol wrote...

This is the only way to fixing gigantic plot-holes and lazy mistakes. Extended Cut was nothing but an "extended fail", that's all.


I respectully disagree, the ME3 ending is one of the best video game endings ever, even beating Bioshock. Those who have been here awhile know my reasons.

Edit: morning MB two player victory? What what! :wizard:


Because you believe it was an indoctrinated vision? If true, I agree. Although I would love for a post ending DLC to show this OMFG DSALJDFkjflkjL FDGSFIDGEHJABVSHFJKDHSBAJNVFKBDSnjaBV,S Dhjd,f.a


Have a little faith.


Yep two player victory in deed. And TIM/ "Have a little faith."

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Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMo.


I still believe BWs statement that ME3 will be the end of Shepards story, so IF IT is revealed, it will be in a top secret surprise DLC
You know, something like that Project X (I know Chris denied it, but who are we to believe in what he says :lol:)


No way ME4 will resolve the reaper story arc, that ends in ME3, we'll get our DLC. You otter believe me.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMo.


I still believe BWs statement that ME3 will be the end of Shepards story, so IF IT is revealed, it will be in a top secret surprise DLC
You know, something like that Project X (I know Chris denied it, but who are we to believe in what he says :lol:)


No way ME4 will resolve the reaper story arc, that ends in ME3, we'll get our DLC. You otter believe me.


Well ending Shepards story doesn't have to involve ending the reaper story, does it? ;)
edited my post above btw

Modifié par Norlond, 25 août 2012 - 03:34 .


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D.Sharrah wrote...

Hellish stop being so gracious...we thank you and Turbo for all of your hard work. Times like this make me wish that I have contributed more...

You contributed Sheara. Posted Image

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Norlond wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMo.


I still believe BWs statement that ME3 will be the end of Shepards story, so IF IT is revealed, it will be in a top secret surprise DLC
You know, something like that Project X (I know Chris denied it, but who are we to believe in what he says :lol:)


No way ME4 will resolve the reaper story arc, that ends in ME3, we'll get our DLC. You otter believe me.


Well ending Shepards story doesn't have to involve ending the reaper story, does it? ;)
edited my post above btw


I disagree, Shepard's story is so deeply intertwined with the reaper story arc you can't resolve one without resolving the other.
:wizard:

Modifié par smokingotter1, 25 août 2012 - 03:37 .


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smokingotter1 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMo.


I still believe BWs statement that ME3 will be the end of Shepards story, so IF IT is revealed, it will be in a top secret surprise DLC
You know, something like that Project X (I know Chris denied it, but who are we to believe in what he says :lol:)


No way ME4 will resolve the reaper story arc, that ends in ME3, we'll get our DLC. You otter believe me.

That war is too big for a single game. It didn't receive enough treatment in ME3.

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smokingotter1 wrote...
I disagree, Shepard's story is so deeply intertwined with the reaper story arc you can't resolve one without resolving the other.
:wizard:


I really hope you are right about all that, the thing is I trust BW, but I don't trust EA, they could screw up BWs promises and that would make me very sad :crying:

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Great vid Hellish! :D

I extremely liked how you and turbo used actuall quotes from the game.

Good job!Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

IT will be revealed in ME4 IMo.


I still believe BWs statement that ME3 will be the end of Shepards story, so IF IT is revealed, it will be in a top secret surprise DLC
You know, something like that Project X (I know Chris denied it, but who are we to believe in what he says :lol:)


No way ME4 will resolve the reaper story arc, that ends in ME3, we'll get our DLC. You otter believe me.

That war is too big for a single game. It didn't receive enough treatment in ME3.


True, and they didn't say take back the Galaxy, they only said Take back Earth. So maybe. Earth will be the base of operations for the galaxy's resistance, and Shepard's squad mates are now Generals of the resistance, after the lose of so many leaders of each race trying to retake Earth.  Shepard will be leading the ground forces while Hackett commands the fleet's. New hero comes out, and we could may play as Shepard, but if not, then we may only hear about shepard, and we still have to fight the Reapers.

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masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That war is too big for a single game. It didn't receive enough treatment in ME3.


True, and they didn't say take back the Galaxy, they only said Take back Earth. So maybe. Earth will be the base of operations for teh galaxy's resistance, and Shepard's dquad mates are now Generals of the resistance, after the lose of so many leaders of each race trying to retake Earth.  Shepard will be leading the ground forces while Hackett commands the fleet's. New hero comes out, and we could may play as Shepard, but if not, then we may only here about shepard, and we still have to fight the Reapers.


Maybe we get a ME strategy game :P

But yeah, BWs promise to end Shepards story and the long reaper war somehow contradict each other if you think about it :?

Modifié par Norlond, 25 août 2012 - 03:53 .


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Interesting idea, masster blaster.

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Norlond wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That war is too big for a single game. It didn't receive enough treatment in ME3.


True, and they didn't say take back the Galaxy, they only said Take back Earth. So maybe. Earth will be the base of operations for teh galaxy's resistance, and Shepard's dquad mates are now Generals of the resistance, after the lose of so many leaders of each race trying to retake Earth.  Shepard will be leading the ground forces while Hackett commands the fleet's. New hero comes out, and we could may play as Shepard, but if not, then we may only here about shepard, and we still have to fight the Reapers.


Maybe we get a ME strategy game

I can see that happening.

But yeah, BWs promise to end Shepards story and the long reaper war somehow contradict each other if you think about it :?



You now, what if um after the battle at Earth, Shepard settles down with
his/her Li, and have a child. Hence, why the child at the end, tell me
another story about the Shepard, could mean the child of Shepard, and if
you didn't romance anyone, then Shepard, could have adopted an a child
and razed the child as his/her own child. Or maybe Shepard consoled a
child with some random person, or a non LI.

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masster blaster wrote...

Norlond wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That war is too big for a single game. It didn't receive enough treatment in ME3.


True, and they didn't say take back the Galaxy, they only said Take back Earth. So maybe. Earth will be the base of operations for teh galaxy's resistance, and Shepard's dquad mates are now Generals of the resistance, after the lose of so many leaders of each race trying to retake Earth.  Shepard will be leading the ground forces while Hackett commands the fleet's. New hero comes out, and we could may play as Shepard, but if not, then we may only here about shepard, and we still have to fight the Reapers.


Maybe we get a ME strategy gameyou now, what if um afyer the battle at Earth, Shepard settels down with his/her Li, and have a child. Hence, why the child at the end, tell me another story about the Shepard, could mean the child of Shepard, and if you didn't romance anyone, then Sheard, could have adopted an a child and razed the child as his/her own child. Or maybe Shepard conseled a child with some random person, or a non LI.

I can see that happening.

But yeah, BWs promise to end Shepards story and the long reaper war somehow contradict each other if you think about it :?

There's 50/50 chance Liara is the mother of Shepard's child. Posted ImagePosted Image

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masster blaster wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Maybe we get a ME strategy game


you now, what if um afyer the battle at Earth, Shepard settels down with his/her Li, and have a child. Hence, why the child at the end, tell me another story about the Shepard, could mean the child of Shepard, and if you didn't romance anyone, then Sheard, could have adopted an a child and razed the child as his/her own child. Or maybe Shepard conseled a child with some random person, or a non LI.

I can see that happening.


Liara wants blue children, and my Shepard promised to get her some!!! :lol:

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I guess you guys would be pretty vitriolic towards BW if they never confirm IT and actually did mean to make the ending a mess?

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StElmo wrote...

I guess you guys would be pretty vitriolic towards BW if they never confirm IT and actually did mean to make the ending a mess?


I wouldnt be. I'd be disappointed, sure,  but I wouldnt yell at Bioware or go on any silly rants or anything.

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StElmo wrote...

I guess you guys would be pretty vitriolic towards BW if they never confirm IT and actually did mean to make the ending a mess?


Why should we do such a terrible thing? I for one would just move on and accept the bad endings, though I would be a little disappointed. ^_^

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Norlond wrote...

StElmo wrote...

I guess you guys would be pretty vitriolic towards BW if they never confirm IT and actually did mean to make the ending a mess?


Why should we do such a terrible thing? I for one would just move on and accept the bad endings, though I would be a little disappointed. ^_^


I'd rage.

I love this series and love the immersion. Only thing stopping me raging is the hope of IT or an in-depth explanation of how the literal endings "work" from BW in DLC/ME4/

I invested a lot of my time losing myself in this world and making the last ten minutes suck is like crushing a small childs pillow fort IMHO.

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StElmo wrote...

I guess you guys would be pretty vitriolic towards BW if they never confirm IT and actually did mean to make the ending a mess?


I'll be vitriolic as hell if they never confirm or deny.  Either give us a real ending, or tell us to deal with the **** one we've got, as long as they don't just leave it up in the air "were the reapers ever really beaten?"