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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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paxxton wrote...

Norlond wrote...

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I'm fully convinced now that the Truth Theory is true. Posted Image
http://social.biowar...ndex/13856110/1


dafuq did I just read?

You were blessed with the vision of the Truth.


The truth is painful to my eyes :lol:

Jade8aby88 wrote...

have any of you guys played the beginning section where you leave Earth with the music off?

It changes the whole mood and makes that kid look really scary.. Like paranormal activity scary!


The soundtrack is awesome, so I can't bring myself to turn it off, saw some videos though and it's creepy indeed :alien:

*edit* aw **** top, please don't kill me, I'm sorry :unsure:

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

have any of you guys played the beginning section where you leave Earth with the music off?

It changes the whole mood and makes that kid look really scary.. Like paranormal activity scary!


Behavior of that kid is out of charts... something is not right there :P 

The kid's face is creepy with or without the music. He has narrow pupils - sign of intoxication. @IntoxicationTheory

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Norlond wrote...

*edit* aw **** top, please don't kill me, I'm sorry :unsure:

When the top is...ashes... you have my permission do die.Posted Image

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Bioware have stated IT wasn't their intention. It's time for people to start realising Bioware really did write a pretentious, bad ending and move on. If this makes you sleep better, by all means, but this was never the intended way to take the ending, and having to write headcanon to make sense of it, just shows how garbage the original ending is.


Oh look, more outright lies and misconceptions. Something as detailed and intricate as the clues supporting the Indoctrination Theory, that just happen to fit the game's themes like a glove, are in no way unintentional.


“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.”  Ian Flemming

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Norlond wrote...

*edit* aw **** top, please don't kill me, I'm sorry :unsure:

When the top is...ashes... you have my permission do die.Posted Image


:whistle:

You guys think we'll see/hear anything new at PAX?

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Norlond wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Norlond wrote...

*edit* aw **** top, please don't kill me, I'm sorry :unsure:

When the top is...ashes... you have my permission do die.Posted Image


:whistle:

You guys think we'll see/hear anything new at PAX?

Uhm... PAX was in April.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

have any of you guys played the beginning section where you leave Earth with the music off?

It changes the whole mood and makes that kid look really scary.. Like paranormal activity scary!

Huh. No, I haven't. I always leave music on and subtitles off to make it more cinematic, unless I'm trying to do something specific. Did you know in the Vancouver mission after you get lased by the reaper you fly back and land on the only object in the dreams: A BENCHPosted Image Because I thought that was really creepy. You know what else? The dream music starts playing there very quietly, so it's definitely on purpose.


Banshee, I'm telling you, do it. You have to turn the music off in the menus before you start the game, I suppose you could do it after the council session where you scale the roof, but yea...

DO IT! It backs up IT!!

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paxxton wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

have any of you guys played the beginning section where you leave Earth with the music off?

It changes the whole mood and makes that kid look really scary.. Like paranormal activity scary!


Behavior of that kid is out of charts... something is not right there :P 

The kid's face is creepy with or without the music. He has narrow pupils - sign of intoxication. @IntoxicationTheory


yea but it's not his face or voice, it's the sound effects surrounding him.

EDIT: Paxxton sigging the control banner and talking about Intoxination theory?

What happened to you, man?

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 27 août 2012 - 06:14 .


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paxxton wrote...

Norlond wrote...
You guys think we'll see/hear anything new at PAX?

Uhm... PAX was in April.


That was PAX East, I meant PAX Prime

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Bioware have stated IT wasn't their intention. It's time for people to start realising Bioware really did write a pretentious, bad ending and move on. If this makes you sleep better, by all means, but this was never the intended way to take the ending, and having to write headcanon to make sense of it, just shows how garbage the original ending is.


Oh look, more outright lies and misconceptions. Something as detailed and intricate as the clues supporting the Indoctrination Theory, that just happen to fit the game's themes like a glove, are in no way unintentional.


“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.”  Ian Flemming

Exactly. [/Anderson] There is simply too much evidence for me to think anything else is true. If it isn't true, that raises some serious questions.
1. How the hell did they manage to have all of the evidence my accident?
2. How did they forget the themes and lore/storytelling/common sense for the end and only the end of the trilogy?
3. A better question: If Leviathan has awesome writing (which it looks like it does), how did they manage to do #2 then go back to their normal good/great writing?

That, in my opinion, makes less sense than the literal ending. Who agrees? Posted Image

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

have any of you guys played the beginning section where you leave Earth with the music off?

It changes the whole mood and makes that kid look really scary.. Like paranormal activity scary!

Huh. No, I haven't. I always leave music on and subtitles off to make it more cinematic, unless I'm trying to do something specific. Did you know in the Vancouver mission after you get lased by the reaper you fly back and land on the only object in the dreams: A BENCHPosted Image Because I thought that was really creepy. You know what else? The dream music starts playing there very quietly, so it's definitely on purpose.


Banshee, I'm telling you, do it. You have to turn the music off in the menus before you start the game, I suppose you could do it after the council session where you scale the roof, but yea...

DO IT! It backs up IT!!

Okay. I will do that sometime today. Thanks. Posted Image

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Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Norlond wrote...
You guys think we'll see/hear anything new at PAX?

Uhm... PAX was in April.


That was PAX East, I meant PAX Prime

Oh, will BioWare be there?

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Modifié par spotlessvoid, 27 août 2012 - 06:15 .


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Oh, by the way, just to add to speculations...

Here's the Leviathan achievements...

No Stone Unturned - 25g - Investigate a Sinister Conspiracy

Under Pressure - 50g - Uncover An Ancient Secret

Conpiracy Theorist - 25g - Use Clues To pinpointthe Exact Location Of an Objective

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.”  Ian Flemming

Quite a few famous producers of fiction have good quotes for us. Though remember even though IT is 99% likely to have been put in on purpose that doesn't mean there'll be a true ending, though there should.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

have any of you guys played the beginning section where you leave Earth with the music off?

It changes the whole mood and makes that kid look really scary.. Like paranormal activity scary!

Huh. No, I haven't. I always leave music on and subtitles off to make it more cinematic, unless I'm trying to do something specific. Did you know in the Vancouver mission after you get lased by the reaper you fly back and land on the only object in the dreams: A BENCHPosted Image Because I thought that was really creepy. You know what else? The dream music starts playing there very quietly, so it's definitely on purpose.


Banshee, I'm telling you, do it. You have to turn the music off in the menus before you start the game, I suppose you could do it after the council session where you scale the roof, but yea...

DO IT! It backs up IT!!

Okay. I will do that sometime today. Thanks. Posted Image


just make sure u have sound effects up all the way.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...


Oh, by the way, just to add to speculations...

Here's the Leviathan achievements...

No Stone Unturned - 25g - Investigate a Sinister Conspiracy

Under Pressure - 50g - Uncover An Ancient Secret

Conpiracy Theorist - 25g - Use Clues To pinpointthe Exact Location Of an Objective

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Interesting words to use. However, I think that they just worded the achievements like that to try and stir some more speculation.

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AxStapleton wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Oh, by the way, just to add to speculations...

Here's the Leviathan achievements...

No Stone Unturned - 25g - Investigate a Sinister Conspiracy

Under Pressure - 50g - Uncover An Ancient Secret

Conpiracy Theorist - 25g - Use Clues To pinpointthe Exact Location Of an Objective

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Interesting words to use. However, I think that they just worded the achievements like that to try and stir some more speculation.

Hell yes they did! And Jade, where did you find them? Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Oh, by the way, just to add to speculations...

Here's the Leviathan achievements...

No Stone Unturned - 25g - Investigate a Sinister Conspiracy

Under Pressure - 50g - Uncover An Ancient Secret

Conpiracy Theorist - 25g - Use Clues To pinpointthe Exact Location Of an Objective

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Interesting words to use. However, I think that they just worded the achievements like that to try and stir some more speculation.

Hell yes they did! And Jade, where did you find them? Posted Image



xbox.com.

It's legit.

There's another thread on the main page which I found them in first though, then checked myself.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Could that mean we'll be able to break the doctors indoctrination?

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Oh, by the way, just to add to speculations...

Here's the Leviathan achievements...

No Stone Unturned - 25g - Investigate a Sinister Conspiracy

Under Pressure - 50g - Uncover An Ancient Secret

Conpiracy Theorist - 25g - Use Clues To pinpointthe Exact Location Of an Objective

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Interesting words to use. However, I think that they just worded the achievements like that to try and stir some more speculation.

Hell yes they did! And Jade, where did you find them? Posted Image



xbox.com.

It's legit.

There's another thread on the main page which I found them in first though, then checked myself.

Thanks. I assumed it was real, as it does come out tomorrow. Posted Image

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Norlond wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Could that mean we'll be able to break the doctors indoctrination?


No, I think that's just rescuing that Anee Bryson girl. She's pretty much the Amanda Kenson of Leviathan, so I assume it'd be something like that.

@ Banshee Ownage, when r u comingg on xbox? want to play MP after you check out the earth sequence?

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Though Leviathan most likely isn't going to confirm IT, it seems they want you thinking about it with achievements like that. They basically say 'we're up to something'.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...


Oh, by the way, just to add to speculations...

Here's the Leviathan achievements...

1. No Stone Unturned - 25g - Investigate a Sinister Conspiracy

2. Under Pressure - 50g - Uncover An Ancient Secret

3. Conpiracy Theorist - 25g - Use Clues To pinpointthe Exact Location Of an Objective

4. Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


1. For beating mission 1
2. For beating misson 3 (obviously. You know, water pressure)
3. For going to the citadel?
4. for beating mission 2

Just some thoughts.

Edit: I'll be on soon Jade. I expect the 7 missing Earth DLC mods will be released tomorrow in the patch, so I will not spend any more credits until tomorrow. Posted Image

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Family Matters - 25g - Rescue a civilian From Reaper Forces


Could that mean we'll be able to break the doctors indoctrination?


No, I think that's just rescuing that Anee Bryson girl. She's pretty much the Amanda Kenson of Leviathan, so I assume it'd be something like that.


Isn't she more like an advisor (like Archer in Overlord)? I thought it'd be she who gives us the mission to find the ones who killed her father, and we later find out he's still alive and indoctrinated