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[estebanus]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

But you're comparing an MMO to an RPG. The typical MMO is alot more open ended than the typical RPG. There are plenty of choices that matter in Mass Effect, but the games are still going to have to follow a basic narrative or there wont be much of a story.

No, as in your decisions having wildy different outcomes for the world itself. Say for example, you refus to help a unit of guards fighting off dozens of centaurs. Then, the centaurs conquer the base and end up destroying large pieces of land, meaning that the price for different items will become higher, and that you'll encounter many more enemies along the road.
It may even end up with the entire countryside being invaded by the centaurs, who then end up destroying almost everything. In which case, you and other players have to launch an operation to retake the countryside.

EDIT: I'm on top.

Modifié par estebanus, 27 août 2012 - 10:49 .

[munnellyladt]

byne wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...


Can wrex survive if you don't cure the genophage?

Nope. He discovers the sabotage no matter what.

I've always kind of wondered who told him about the sabotage. I mean, it was a QEC convo between you and the Dalatrass. Who could have recorded it? Wouldnt really make sense for the Dalatrass to do it.

"Salarians have minds like a maze,you never know when the're leading you into a trap".

Modifié par munnellyladt, 27 août 2012 - 10:52 .

[Ithurael]

byne wrote...

Space magic, I suppose. All I know is that there were creepy baby krogan with glowing green eyes in my slideshow, when there shouldnt have been any.

Also, if Wrex is alive, he makes sure the Krogan knew about Shepard's betrayal, so now that synthesis has apparently cured the genophage, they're pissed and out for revenge, and as a bonus they're fertile.

Thanks Space Magic! You **** everything up.

You know I actually never thought of that! HA! Yeah, if you screwed wrex and then the krogan got synthesized - or whatever - and then somehow cured themselves to become fertile...

Yeah...synthesis is kinda worse now - much worse than it was before.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

byne wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

But you're comparing an MMO to an RPG. There are plenty of choices that matter in Mass Effect, but the games are still going to have to follow a basic narrative or there wont be much of a story.

Yknow, depending on what choices you make, the EC actually could have made your choices matter less than they did pre-EC?

My renegade character killed Wrex and Mordin, and chose synthesis, and the game basically made sure I was aware how few ****s it gave about my choices, and cured the genophage anyways.

I could have just skipped all of Tuchanka.

Wow, didnt know that. Then again I can't stomach renegade Shepard. How did they cure it without Mordin?

Padok Wiks. Renegade Shep is awesome.

Eve is dead too. There'd be no one to synthesize a cure from. It had to have been space magic.

Also Renegade Shep is borderline evil.

I always feel bad being mean in video games.

I disagree. My Shepard is a total paragmatis who wouldn't hesitate to sabtage the genophage cure if it'd give her more soldiers. She would also bring peace between the geth and quarians for the soul reason of getting the geth armada.

So yeah, my Shep is a bit of a renegon.

I try to play the game the exact same way I'd react if it were real life.

Modifié par estebanus, 27 août 2012 - 10:53 .

[estebanus]

munnellyladt wrote...

byne wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...


Can wrex survive if you don't cure the genophage?

Nope. He discovers the sabotage no matter what.

I've always kind of wondered who told him about the sabotage. I mean, it was a QEC convo between you and the Dalatrass. Who could have recorded it? Wouldnt really make sense for the Dalatrass to do it.

"Salarians have minds like a maze,you never know when the're leading you into a trap".

Wrex says that Mordin wasn't his only mole in STG. That is, right before I tear him to pieces.

[GethPrimeMKII]

byne wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

byne wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

But you're comparing an MMO to an RPG. There are plenty of choices that matter in Mass Effect, but the games are still going to have to follow a basic narrative or there wont be much of a story.

Yknow, depending on what choices you make, the EC actually could have made your choices matter less than they did pre-EC?

My renegade character killed Wrex and Mordin, and chose synthesis, and the game basically made sure I was aware how few ****s it gave about my choices, and cured the genophage anyways.

I could have just skipped all of Tuchanka.

Wow, didnt know that. Then again I can't stomach renegade Shepard. How did they cure it without Mordin?

Space magic, I suppose. All I know is that there were creepy baby krogan with glowing green eyes in my slideshow, when there shouldnt have been any.

Also, if Wrex is alive, he makes sure the Krogan knew about Shepard's betrayal, so now that synthesis has apparently cured the genophage, they're pissed and out for revenge, and as a bonus they're fertile.

Thanks Space Magic! You **** everything up.

I guess synthesising does away with imperfections like sterility? I am so glad I don't take this stupid ending at face value.

[estebanus]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I guess synthesising does away with imperfections like sterility? I am so glad I don't take this stupid ending at face value.

How could you? It makes no sense. It isn't even really a synthesis.

[lex0r11]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

[...]

Hey, r u still an ITer?

Oh. I didn't want to confuse anyone with this, just thought that a reaper standoff was unlikely too.
I always liked the idea of IT and still do but I don't "masster" like it, if that even makes sense to you.

Similar thing seems to happen here recently.
People are not sure anymore on what side people are or just don't know better and call everyone a troll they don't know when they try to be a little cynical or something.

[Andromidius]

Jeeze, I'm struggling to convince myself not to buy Leviathan right now.

Someone who does can tell me if its worth getting or not, without spoilers. But only if it is really something special that has an impact on the ending. Otherwise I'll just Youtube it.

[estebanus]

lex0r11 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

[...]

Hey, r u still an ITer?

Oh. I didn't want to confuse anyone with this, just thought that a reaper standoff was unlikely too.
I always liked the idea of IT and still do but I don't "masster" like it, if that even makes sense to you.

Similar thing seems to happen here recently.
People are not sure anymore on what side people are or just don't know better and call everyone a troll they don't know when they try to be a little cynical or something.

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

[CoolioThane]

I masster like it

[spotlessvoid]

In synthesis, everybody happy. Except for Batarians, they still do nothing but complain.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

I disagree. My Shepard is a total paragmatis who wouldn't hesitate to sabtage the genophage cure if it'd give her more soldiers. She would also bring peace between the geth and quarians for the soul reason of getting the geth armada.

So yeah, my Shep is a bit of a renegon.

I try to play the game the exact same way I'd react if it were real life.

But a real pragmatist would realize they dont know how long the war is going to last, and a near endless supply of krogan footsoldiers would be invaluable.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

Masster may not make sense a lot of the time, but he's not exactly creepy.

His heart is in the right place.

[GethPrimeMKII]

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

[...]

Hey, r u still an ITer?

Oh. I didn't want to confuse anyone with this, just thought that a reaper standoff was unlikely too.
I always liked the idea of IT and still do but I don't "masster" like it, if that even makes sense to you.

Similar thing seems to happen here recently.
People are not sure anymore on what side people are or just don't know better and call everyone a troll they don't know when they try to be a little cynical or something.

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

I had a good laugh that day. He's cool though.

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 27 août 2012 - 11:04 .

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I disagree. My Shepard is a total paragmatis who wouldn't hesitate to sabtage the genophage cure if it'd give her more soldiers. She would also bring peace between the geth and quarians for the soul reason of getting the geth armada.

So yeah, my Shep is a bit of a renegon.

I try to play the game the exact same way I'd react if it were real life.

But a real pragmatist would realize they dont know how long the war is going to last, and a near endless supply of krogan footsoldiers would be invaluable.

Exactly. That's why I sabotaged the cure, killed Eve, and let Mordin live. The krogan wouldn't notice it anyway. Wreav is too stupid to notice if he'd just get a spear rammed through his hand.

[Jadebaby]

lol masster blaster is crazy

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I disagree. My Shepard is a total paragmatis who wouldn't hesitate to sabtage the genophage cure if it'd give her more soldiers. She would also bring peace between the geth and quarians for the soul reason of getting the geth armada.

So yeah, my Shep is a bit of a renegon.

I try to play the game the exact same way I'd react if it were real life.

But a real pragmatist would realize they dont know how long the war is going to last, and a near endless supply of krogan footsoldiers would be invaluable.

Exactly. That's why I sabotaged the cure, killed Eve, and let Mordin live. The krogan wouldn't notice it anyway. Wreav is too stupid to notice if he'd just get a spear rammed through his hand.

But there arent exactly a lot of krogan left. The 'near endless' thing only counts if you didnt sabotage the cure. Otherwise they'll definitely notice when no krogan females get pregnant.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

Masster may not make sense a lot of the time, but he's not exactly creepy.

His heart is in the right place.

I don't know him well enough to say that, but from what I've heard, he is kinda weird. Also, he does have really bad grammar, doesn't he? Is he dyslexic?

[jgibson14352]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

Masster may not make sense a lot of the time, but he's not exactly creepy.

His heart is in the right place.

his brain sure as hell isnt

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I disagree. My Shepard is a total paragmatis who wouldn't hesitate to sabtage the genophage cure if it'd give her more soldiers. She would also bring peace between the geth and quarians for the soul reason of getting the geth armada.

So yeah, my Shep is a bit of a renegon.

I try to play the game the exact same way I'd react if it were real life.

But a real pragmatist would realize they dont know how long the war is going to last, and a near endless supply of krogan footsoldiers would be invaluable.

Exactly. That's why I sabotaged the cure, killed Eve, and let Mordin live. The krogan wouldn't notice it anyway. Wreav is too stupid to notice if he'd just get a spear rammed through his hand.

But there arent exactly a lot of krogan left. The 'near endless' thing only counts if you didnt sabotage the cure. Otherwise they'll definitely notice when no krogan females get pregnant.

Yes, they'll notice at some point, but at that point, I'd say their strategic value would be of no use, anyway.

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

Masster may not make sense a lot of the time, but he's not exactly creepy.

His heart is in the right place.

Yep. Mucho corazón. I think he always means well.

Although I thought of him during that "masster plan" phase as a super villain with a crazy plan.

[estebanus]

jgibson14352 wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

This Masster Blaster guy kinda creeps me out. I remember when my brother showed me how he wanted to combine anti-IT and IT theories into one mega theory.

Masster may not make sense a lot of the time, but he's not exactly creepy.

His heart is in the right place.

his brain sure as hell isnt

Holy crap.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I disagree. My Shepard is a total paragmatis who wouldn't hesitate to sabtage the genophage cure if it'd give her more soldiers. She would also bring peace between the geth and quarians for the soul reason of getting the geth armada.

So yeah, my Shep is a bit of a renegon.

I try to play the game the exact same way I'd react if it were real life.

But a real pragmatist would realize they dont know how long the war is going to last, and a near endless supply of krogan footsoldiers would be invaluable.

Exactly. That's why I sabotaged the cure, killed Eve, and let Mordin live. The krogan wouldn't notice it anyway. Wreav is too stupid to notice if he'd just get a spear rammed through his hand.

But there arent exactly a lot of krogan left. The 'near endless' thing only counts if you didnt sabotage the cure. Otherwise they'll definitely notice when no krogan females get pregnant.

Yes, they'll notice at some point, but at that point, I'd say their strategic value would be of no use, anyway.

The protheans' war with the Reapers lasted like a hundred years. We dont have any way of knowing if we'll need krogan for a long time or not. Its safer not to sabotage.

Edit: unless of course you made the mistake of killing Wrex in ME1.

Then curing the genophage is reckless.

Modifié par byne, 27 août 2012 - 11:09 .

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

The protheans' war with the Reapers lasted like a hundred years. We dont have any way of knowing if we'll need krogan for a long time or not. Its safer not to sabotage.

Edit: unless of course you made the mistake of killing Wrex in ME1.

Then curing the genophage is reckless.

Obviously, I killed Wrex. I will not tolerate insubordination. If I'd have let him live, then I'd agree with you.

Modifié par estebanus, 27 août 2012 - 11:11 .