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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Hrothdane

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Jere85 wrote...

So, for us PC people, is the DLC supposed to be out yet? Or around what time should it be?
Just wondering.


11AM-12PM US mountain time.

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Hey!

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CoolioThane wrote...

The approx time passes but no DLC yet :P

Timezones. -6 GMT.

EDIT: LOL. For Xbox the approx time is AM, for PC it's PM. Not fair. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 28 août 2012 - 11:03 .


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Finally I'm downloading it.

http://marketplace.x...40ee?noSplash=1

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CoolioThane wrote...

Finally I'm downloading it.

http://marketplace.x...40ee?noSplash=1

Lucky you. Still nothing for PC. Posted Image

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1.65 Gb download so quite hefty

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Damn. Guess we PC'ers will have to start keeping off BSN to avoid spoilers.

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CoolioThane wrote...

1.65 Gb download so quite hefty


Have a nice cool class of lemonade while you wait.

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CoolioThane wrote...

1.65 Gb download so quite hefty

Less than the EC. Fishy.

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Just a thought, while waiting for the Leviathan.... All that apple needs to do to kill off all consoles - is to realease the new apple tv thingy with included Steam support (which is what thee are going to do very soon) - and bam! X-boxes and PS3 become the Nokias and Motorolas.

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paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

1.65 Gb download so quite hefty

Less than the EC. Fishy.


Yep, And they spent 3 months on the EC (and nothing else according to them) - 3 months! Search your feelings and tell me that you honestly feel that there 3 months worth of work by all the bioware ME team 24\\7.... Riiiiiight. If that was the case we'd see the realease of ME1 only next month, and that's if we're REALLY LUCKY. 

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demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

1.65 Gb download so quite hefty

Less than the EC. Fishy.


Yep, And they spent 3 months on the EC (and nothing else according to them) - 3 months! Search your feelings and tell me that you honestly feel that there 3 months worth of work by all the bioware ME team 247.... Riiiiiight. If that was the case we'd see the realease of ME1 only next month, and that's if we're REALLY LUCKY. 

Plus, the content in the EC doesn't justify the size. But honestly we don't have any technical details to support that claim.

Hmm... So you think it's 2008 now? jk

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demersel wrote...

Just a thought, while waiting for the Leviathan.... All that apple needs to do to kill off all consoles - is to realease the new apple tv thingy with included Steam support (which is what thee are going to do very soon) - and bam! X-boxes and PS3 become the Nokias and Motorolas.

I heard rumours about Valve trying to develop a so called "Steam-Box". Some kind of console or entertainment system. Imagine, if Steam started to broadcast TV-Shows in a coop with Showtime, AMC, HBO and all the others networks. That would be awesome.

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Restrider wrote...

demersel wrote...

Just a thought, while waiting for the Leviathan.... All that apple needs to do to kill off all consoles - is to realease the new apple tv thingy with included Steam support (which is what thee are going to do very soon) - and bam! X-boxes and PS3 become the Nokias and Motorolas.

I heard rumours about Valve trying to develop a so called "Steam-Box". Some kind of console or entertainment system. Imagine, if Steam started to broadcast TV-Shows in a coop with Showtime, AMC, HBO and all the others networks. That would be awesome.

They are also planning on offering apps on Steam, in addition to games.

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paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

1.65 Gb download so quite hefty

Less than the EC. Fishy.


Yep, And they spent 3 months on the EC (and nothing else according to them) - 3 months! Search your feelings and tell me that you honestly feel that there 3 months worth of work by all the bioware ME team 247.... Riiiiiight. If that was the case we'd see the realease of ME1 only next month, and that's if we're REALLY LUCKY. 

Plus, the content in the EC doesn't justify the size. But honestly we don't have any technical details to support that claim.

Hmm... So you think it's 2008 now? jk


No, what i try to say is that if it REALLY took them 3 months to develop tha amount of content that is seen in the EC
(given that by that time they already had the technology, assets, artdirection - all done)   - with this pace -   i  say that they'd just be finishing ME1 right about now, having started  when they actually started. )

Modifié par demersel, 28 août 2012 - 11:31 .


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paxxton wrote...

Restrider wrote...

demersel wrote...

Just a thought, while waiting for the Leviathan.... All that apple needs to do to kill off all consoles - is to realease the new apple tv thingy with included Steam support (which is what thee are going to do very soon) - and bam! X-boxes and PS3 become the Nokias and Motorolas.

I heard rumours about Valve trying to develop a so called "Steam-Box". Some kind of console or entertainment system. Imagine, if Steam started to broadcast TV-Shows in a coop with Showtime, AMC, HBO and all the others networks. That would be awesome.

They are also planning on offering apps on Steam, in addition to games.


What you guys are referring to is Steam Big Picture mode.

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paxxton wrote...

Restrider wrote...

demersel wrote...

Just a thought, while waiting for the Leviathan.... All that apple needs to do to kill off all consoles - is to realease the new apple tv thingy with included Steam support (which is what thee are going to do very soon) - and bam! X-boxes and PS3 become the Nokias and Motorolas.

I heard rumours about Valve trying to develop a so called "Steam-Box". Some kind of console or entertainment system. Imagine, if Steam started to broadcast TV-Shows in a coop with Showtime, AMC, HBO and all the others networks. That would be awesome.

They are also planning on offering apps on Steam, in addition to games.


Which could be easily done if you just combine apple tv  I-tunes and steam. And add some patented new apple hardware.    AND you could use your Ipad or IPhone, or even Ipod touch as a WIIU\\PSVita like controller with your TV or separately. 

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demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

1.65 Gb download so quite hefty

Less than the EC. Fishy.


Yep, And they spent 3 months on the EC (and nothing else according to them) - 3 months! Search your feelings and tell me that you honestly feel that there 3 months worth of work by all the bioware ME team 247.... Riiiiiight. If that was the case we'd see the realease of ME1 only next month, and that's if we're REALLY LUCKY. 

Plus, the content in the EC doesn't justify the size. But honestly we don't have any technical details to support that claim.

Hmm... So you think it's 2008 now? jk


No, what i try to say is that if it REALLY took them 3 months to develop tha amount of content that is seen in the EC
(given that by that time they already had the technology, assets, artdirection - all done)   - with this pace -   i  say that they'd just be finishing ME1 right about now, having started  when they actually started. )

LOL. I got it. My response was just a joke. Posted Image

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Sigh when does Australia get Leviathan?! I really don't want to leave this thread until I finish it...

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Just dropping by, nothing Leviathan- (or really IT-) related, but a friend of mine just completed ME3 for the first time last night. Here is how his thought train went:

During final battles:
- Intense gameplay, building up well for climax
- Not great that I basically never saw my romance choice (Miranda) 

After the run for the beam:
- Where the f**k is my squad?!
- Wow, this is an extremely slow-paced end to the game
- Ah OK, we're all here now at the top of the citadel, quite inexplicably
- Hang on, Anderson followed me in yet got ahead of me... clearly he's not wounded - couldn't he have given me a better gun or helped me?
- Where the f**k did Anderson come from - there's only one path to where he ends up.
- I didn't actually have a huge problem with the whole AI god thing - thought it was quite a cool idea to have some deity-type thing hidden in the citadel controlling everything. A cool idea, however in this context indescribably underdeveloped.
- Ah, the old 3-choice ending regardless of how you played trick eh? Loved it when it first happened in Deus Ex, 1999 - 13 years on it's been done to death.
- Chose destroy, just had to sacrifice myself, EDI, and the Geth I guess, oh well - also surely the sudden destruction of the mass relays will pretty much f**k the galaxy, ruining the whole future of the galaxy, thus by the game's own logic, all hope - and what the hell's going to happen to all the ships/races that are now orbiting Earth?
- What the F**K is the Normandy doing in a relay jump during the final battle?!
*turn off xbox. Have dinner* 
- Didn't even watch the bit about the Normandy crashing and people coming out of it


Ahh, the memories. He hasn't got the EC yet (not sure he will at all now haha). Lucky for him he didn't have to live through the months of horror post-release, eh?

Anyways, I'm off to show him Parabolee's IT blog.

EDIT: urgh, formatting

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 28 août 2012 - 12:30 .


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 Mass Effect Fans, I have made this message in the hope
of getting it to BioWare, but I can’t do that without you! Copy and paste this
message, send it to their Facebook accounts, to their Twitter accounts, post it
on forums and on YouTube video’s! We must stand together to make BioWare
understand that we, the Fans who have supported them throughout the Years
deserve a better Ending! BioWare deserves a better Ending!


BioWare Staff, you may have
noticed the rumors that are spreading through the Internet. They say that you
have failed to bring Mass Effect to a Good End. They say that you have failed
the Fans and yourselves. They even say that you have thrown away your principles
in exchange for money.

At first I strongly disagreed. I played Mass Effect 3, not paying attention to
the rumors and finally I got to the End. True, the Game itself was very well
done, but the End did not make sense to me. So I went to seek answers on the
Internet, now paying attention to the rumors. There were fans who didn’t like
the Ending but didn’t care too much. ‘A bitter sweet Ending,’ they said. And
others said plainly that it was rubbish. But the last group of Fans truly caught
my attention. They said that the Ending shouldn’t be interpreted so literally.
They described what is known now as ‘The Indoctrination Theory’. The more I
read about it and the more videos I saw, the more convinced I became. Finally
the Ending seemed to make sense! The only drawback was that we weren’t really
sure about it. After all, You hadn’t confirmed or disproven it.

And then came the message about the Extended Cut DLC. It would clarify the
Ending. Yet it didn’t. Sure, it gave more information about what happened after
each different choice of Ending, but again, it didn’t disprove the
Indoctrination Theory. The Ending still didn’t make sense.

The Indoctrination Theory states that, throughout the games, the Reapers have
tried to Indoctrinate Shepard. Harbingers famous quote: ‘Your mind will be
ours!’ Only feeds the Theory. And then there were the Dream sequences in Mass
Effect 3. These are explained as Indoctrination attempts. But the real part
only starts at the Ending. When Shepard gets hit by the Laser a white light
takes over the screen. Why white? It was a red Laser. And the same light is
used moments later when the platform rises to meet the StarChild. The
Indoctrination Theory states that everything that happens after getting hit by
the Laser is actually happening in Shepard’s head. Even the confrontation between
Anderson and the Illusive Man is explained as being a fight between the Indoctrination
and Shepard’s subconscious. And most of you will know what it says after that.
If not, you can easily look it up.

So BioWare, now my question is: Why do you not use this Ending? It would make a
fat better Ending than what we have now, and you don’t even have the change any
of the existing facts, The Indoctrination Theory fits in perfectly!

In one of the Documentary’s I have seen, someone describes the Ending after
Shepard makes his choice and he did it in less than two minutes. He even said
that the dark matter problem could still be involved in the Ending. So why was
he able to make a better Ending on his own in less than two minutes when you
have an entire writing team and more than two years to make it? BioWare, we
aren’t mad at you, we are simply disappointed.

Please BioWare, we deserve a better Ending. You deserve a better Ending. Adopt
the Theory and make it happen!

Wake Up Shepard! Wake Up BioWare!

#14697
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Not ruining anything for those that haven't got it yet, but the first 30 minutes of Leviathan are very interesting for those of us on this thread...still playing through, so nothing else to add right now. Will wait until everyone has had a chance to play through.

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Ducktroll wrote...

Not ruining anything for those that haven't got it yet, but the first 30 minutes of Leviathan are very interesting for those of us on this thread...still playing through, so nothing else to add right now. Will wait until everyone has had a chance to play through.


Thank you for this message, it tells me that someone might post actual spoilers from now on, I'll leave til I finished it myself ^_^

And you say the first 30 mins are interesting for us? Damn you now I can't wait for it any longer, I need it now!! :lol:

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I'vebeen downloadingfor 2 hours and it's only on 33% sigh

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CoolioThane wrote...

I'vebeen downloadingfor 2 hours and it's only on 33% sigh


Well atleast you have something to download. I can't even buy it yet. It's not on Origin for me yet... :pinched: