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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Jere85 wrote...

Anyone else thought Leviathan was starting to sound more and more like Jigsaw the more he talked?
Epic voice, but when it goes on to full sentences, i swear he's going to say:
"Hello Shepard... I want to play a game..."

It's that voice. Posted Image

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Jere85 wrote...

Anyone else thought Leviathan was starting to sound more and more like Jigsaw the more he talked?
Epic voice, but when it goes on to full sentences, i swear he's going to say:
"Hello Shepard... I want to play a game..."


Pah, Bioware's already playing that game with us: Need a tool to possibly wipe out the Reapers for sure? Why not ask a Reaper how!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 31 août 2012 - 12:10 .


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So..anything supporting IT in leviathan?

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Vibez wrote...

Guys, I just realised something. Why on earth Leviathans didn't destroy the probe Shepard shot at the sea? It was right next to them. They couldn't simply see it, of course, but thats highly doubtful, since as we saw they can 'sense' any ship approaching way from above and even attack it.

They say they didn't want to be found, and yet it seems they deliberately wanted Shepard down there. I say that's another reason not to trust them.

LOL. I must have been really sleepy when playing it cause I thought the probe was launched back when the MSV Monarch crashed.


Fair enough. But the most important thing is why they let operational and emitting probe just lay right next to them. Seems like they wanted to be found eventually.

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For those who haven't heard yet

Posted ImageEnter into the Dark Journey of Shepard's IndoctrinationPosted Image

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FreddyCast wrote...

For those who haven't heard yet

Posted ImageEnter into the Dark Journey of Shepard's IndoctrinationPosted Image

Nice video. Summing up many things about classic IT.

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FreddyCast wrote...

For those who haven't heard yet

Posted ImageEnter into the Dark Journey of Shepard's IndoctrinationPosted Image


love the into, and very good well job.

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Cheers Freddy, haven't seen that one yet.

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Dark_Enclave33 wrote...

I sure hope something big out there is to come if not,...oh well....I enjoyed the journey....


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So..anything supporting IT in leviathan?

The artifacts Shepard distributes around the Galaxy might eventually be used by the Leviathans to seize control of Organics.

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New post on Barnard Plim's blog

http://conspiracyacc...ue.blogspot.ca/

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paxxton wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

So..anything supporting IT in leviathan?

The artifacts Shepard distributes around the Galaxy might eventually be used by the Leviathans to seize control of Organics.


Plus, when Levvy takes control of you, and you have a conversation inside your mind with it, its basically the exact same as your convo with the godchild, down to starting off on your hands and knees.

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

So..anything supporting IT in leviathan?

The artifacts Shepard distributes around the Galaxy might eventually be used by the Leviathans to seize control of Organics.


Plus, when Levvy takes control of you, and you have a conversation inside your mind with it, its basically the exact same as your convo with the godchild, down to starting off on your hands and knees.

And he takes different forms, of people from Shepard's mind.

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 Hey Everyone, 

I was fortunate enough to speak to Julian Kluk- a documentary film maker who just completed his THIRD series looking at the Indoctrination theory. We talk about what's next and I express my supicious and it's reality. 


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paxxton wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

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Leviathan is indoctrinated.


Indoctriception.
But in reality they might as well be from our stand point. They have their own agenda that seems worse than the reapers.

That's not true. They cared for the thrall species.


Like someone cares for livestock. 

No. I'd argue that the species had great freedom if they were able to create machines (meaning their development was mostly unconstrained).


Or they could have done so of the Leviathans' will.
I wouldn't say they were worse than the Reapers, but they certainly are not on our side. The Reapers built the Relays to make harvesting quicker and easier (ironic that they would eventually lead to their demise...Perhaps "the created will always rebel against the creators" is not so far off, after all). Saying the Leviathan cared for their trall species as one would care for livestock may not be far off. They did create the Intelligence, which in turn created the Reapers, that did...well, something similar, anyway.

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paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

So..anything supporting IT in leviathan?

The artifacts Shepard distributes around the Galaxy might eventually be used by the Leviathans to seize control of Organics.


Plus, when Levvy takes control of you, and you have a conversation inside your mind with it, its basically the exact same as your convo with the godchild, down to starting off on your hands and knees.

And he takes different forms, of people from Shepard's mind.


Ok, I see how the conversation part is a clue to the IT, as in stating that conversations like this are possible and plausible, but I fail to see what the Leviathan artifacts have to do with the last scenes taking place inside Shepard's mind by Reaper manipulation.

Also, here's another possible clue: the whole talk about Shepard being different, an anomaly. This could suggest the Reapers can be interested in Shepard just as the Leviathans are (it's actually pretty clear already that the Reapers have an interest in Shepard) and thus the Reapers would want to indoctrinate Shepard, either to make him serve their purpose or just to prove that they CAN break him.

Modifié par Daryslash, 31 août 2012 - 01:10 .


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Okay guys I found something very interesting that it's not in the dialogue with TIM at the end of ME3.

When TIM says " The crucible can ...." TIM says if you listen to what he says with out looking at the dialogue, he says  " The Crucible's", as in more than one. Omega maybe.



Here is the video that I am talking about, it should be on the time I set it on. If not then skip to 9:00.

Modifié par masster blaster, 31 août 2012 - 01:22 .


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An interestin thing i just noticed.... in SP, in character customization screen, when you're choosing the casual outfit - look closely at shepard's hands - they are weird. The most weird would be if you put on admiral's uniform - the heands a old, and boney. - clearly this this outfit is tken from hackett's model and they forgot to change the hands - that's what caught my attention - but then i checked the hands on other costumes - the ones that were made specially for Shepard - and they are not the hands of a healthy person. They are different, than Hackett's but are still pale, and veiny, with black areas, and somewhere in the animation loop there is an animation for them to twitch. Check it out for yourself.

I get why they could they possibly be like that for the outfit he wore on earth during the prologe - there was much destruction and fires and heavy fighting - he was knocked out, lifted some debree, but for the other one - the dafault casual allience soldier uniform? They are the same. They are the same on his smuggler outfit,  fingers have same colour and texture, but the back of the palms are covered. And they are different in the leather jacket outfit, and the N7 hoody - they have no black areas, but they are still strained and much more pale. 

seriously - they look like he has started to decay!

Modifié par demersel, 31 août 2012 - 01:33 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys I found something very interesting that it's not in the dialogue with TIM at the end of ME3.

When TIM says " The crucible can ...." TIM says if you listen to what he says with out looking at the dialogue, he says  " The Crucible's", as in more than one. Omega maybe.



Here is the video that I am talking about, it should be on the time I set it on. If not then skip to 9:00.

Yeah I've always heard this too, but I figured it was just the way Martin Sheen talks

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plfranke wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys I found something very interesting that it's not in the dialogue with TIM at the end of ME3.

When TIM says " The crucible can ...." TIM says if you listen to what he says with out looking at the dialogue, he says  " The Crucible's", as in more than one. Omega maybe.



Here is the video that I am talking about, it should be on the time I set it on. If not then skip to 9:00.

Yeah I've always heard this too, but I figured it was just the way Martin Sheen talks


Maybe, but ya I came apon this a long time ago, but it was when my post made little no sense at all.

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plfranke wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay guys I found something very interesting that it's not in the dialogue with TIM at the end of ME3.

When TIM says " The crucible can ...." TIM says if you listen to what he says with out looking at the dialogue, he says  " The Crucible's", as in more than one. Omega maybe.



Here is the video that I am talking about, it should be on the time I set it on. If not then skip to 9:00.

Yeah I've always heard this too, but I figured it was just the way Martin Sheen talks


That's bugged me since the first time I played it...especially considering the subtitle says "Crucible."
It was mentioned maybe a couple weeks ago that he probably just messed up and the sound guys were just too nervous to correct the great Martin Sheen :P

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Even the god child says " Crucibles", when we is about to talk about Synthesis. Not sure if this was an over sight, but I don't think so.

If the time set doesn't work, look at 47:27.

and it's there in the subtitles.

Fixed the video, and link.


www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par masster blaster, 31 août 2012 - 01:54 .


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masster blaster wrote...



Even the god child says " Crucibles", when we is about to talk about Synthesis. Not sure if this was an over sight, but I don't think so.

If the time set doesn't work, look at 47:27.

and it's there in the subtitles.


Hm....I think you have the wrong link.
I just played the ending again before logging on here and didn't notice, but it's a nice catch if he says it, too.

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Has anyone discussed the difference in mechanisms of Leviathan and Harbinger's indoctrination/mind-control abilities?

Case 1:
Leviathan: Your mind will be mine. *Yoink*
Shepard: I just want to ask a ..... *becomes vegetable*

Case 2:
Harbinger: Your mind will be mine...please?
*Shepard casts brain shield*
*It is successful. Chance of indoctrination reduced to 25%*

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Never mind.

Modifié par masster blaster, 31 août 2012 - 01:50 .