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[spotlessvoid]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 Everyone get out of this thread and help the rest of the community make a plea to Bioware to make a new ending. We don't need the IT as a "transition" for a new ending.

"I hate you guys and always troll in here, but come help me do something."

Pass.

[FFZero]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 Everyone get out of this thread and help the rest of the community make a plea to Bioware to make a new ending. We don't need the IT as a "transition" for a new ending.

"I hate you guys and always troll in here, but come help me do something."

Pass.

You're a part of the bioware community whether you like it or not, now quit hoping that you'll get a false fan-fiction for the ending and help us really get the ending this trilogy deserves

As much as it pains me to say it he has got a point, with the exception of the fake fan-fiction part of course.

[plfranke]

FFZero wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 Everyone get out of this thread and help the rest of the community make a plea to Bioware to make a new ending. We don't need the IT as a "transition" for a new ending.

"I hate you guys and always troll in here, but come help me do something."

Pass.

You're a part of the bioware community whether you like it or not, now quit hoping that you'll get a false fan-fiction for the ending and help us really get the ending this trilogy deserves

As much as it pains me to say it he has got a point, with the exception of the fake fan-fiction part of course.

You're damn right he has a point.

[byne]

FFZero wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 Everyone get out of this thread and help the rest of the community make a plea to Bioware to make a new ending. We don't need the IT as a "transition" for a new ending.

"I hate you guys and always troll in here, but come help me do something."

Pass.

You're a part of the bioware community whether you like it or not, now quit hoping that you'll get a false fan-fiction for the ending and help us really get the ending this trilogy deserves

As much as it pains me to say it he has got a point, with the exception of the fake fan-fiction part of course.

If the endings really are literal, do you think that any amount of activism from us is going to get them to abandon their 'artistic integrity', admit the endings sucked, and write new ones?

Thats basically them admitting they cant write for ****. It wont happen.

[plfranke]

byne wrote...

FFZero wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 Everyone get out of this thread and help the rest of the community make a plea to Bioware to make a new ending. We don't need the IT as a "transition" for a new ending.

"I hate you guys and always troll in here, but come help me do something."

Pass.

You're a part of the bioware community whether you like it or not, now quit hoping that you'll get a false fan-fiction for the ending and help us really get the ending this trilogy deserves

As much as it pains me to say it he has got a point, with the exception of the fake fan-fiction part of course.

If the endings really are literal, do you think that any amount of activism from us is going to get them to abandon their 'artistic integrity', admit the endings sucked, and write new ones?

Thats basically them admitting they cant write for ****. It wont happen.

but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

If the endings really are literal, do you think that any amount of activism from us is going to get them to abandon their 'artistic integrity', admit the endings sucked, and write new ones?

Thats basically them admitting they cant write for ****. It wont happen.

This.  Even if you don't believe in IT, this is your only hope of a new ending.  They're not gonna say "yeah, we suck at writing, sorry."  They'd at least try to save face and take IT even if it wasn't intended and use that to let them make a new ending.

[spotlessvoid]

His profanity filled rants about how stupid and worthless we are clearly say troll.

[I_eat_unicorns]

 
http://social.biowar.../index/13909825 

Here is a thread for a plea that has +28 pages, I'm thinkin if we make it large enough, we can at least get some real answers from devs, like why the endings were so bad in the first place.

Now that most people from the PR fiasco left after the ec dlc, only avid fans remain here, so it's not like devs have anything to be scared of the large mob that was here, just us fans. 

[I_eat_unicorns]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

If the endings really are literal, do you think that any amount of activism from us is going to get them to abandon their 'artistic integrity', admit the endings sucked, and write new ones?

Thats basically them admitting they cant write for ****. It wont happen.

This.  Even if you don't believe in IT, this is your only hope of a new ending.  They're not gonna say "yeah, we suck at writing, sorry."  They'd at least try to save face and take IT even if it wasn't intended and use that to let them make a new ending.

How is activism for a fan-theory any different?

[byne]

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

[byne]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

If the endings really are literal, do you think that any amount of activism from us is going to get them to abandon their 'artistic integrity', admit the endings sucked, and write new ones?

Thats basically them admitting they cant write for ****. It wont happen.

This.  Even if you don't believe in IT, this is your only hope of a new ending.  They're not gonna say "yeah, we suck at writing, sorry."  They'd at least try to save face and take IT even if it wasn't intended and use that to let them make a new ending.

How is activism for a fan-theory any different?

People do IT activism?

As far as I know, we just speculate.

[plfranke]

byne wrote...

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

That's the kind of attitude Bioware is counting on Byne. Listen to yourself! You're Indoctrinated!

Modifié par plfranke, 31 août 2012 - 04:01 .

[Lokanaiya]

Well, after some thought I realized that there is one possible bright spot in the darkness that is Fridge Logic about the leviathans: They are either extremely lazy or have long periods of hibernation like the Thorian. (Given who and what they are, I'd say it's the latter, but still.)

They made an intelligence to solve the problem of their thrall races making AIs and destroying themselves, and the intelligence ended up killing all the Leviathans... And there are so many things in that sentence that don't make sense it's not even funny.

For one, why did it have to be an AI? Couldn't a VI still do all the calculations just as well and then tell the Leviathans about its predictions and what it thought would be the best solution. The Leviathans could go over the plan or make one themselves with the data collected and make sure that it didn't interfere with any of their personal plans. Why did their data collector, calculator, and possible problem solver have to have self-awareness? This seems to indicate the Leviathans were very often out of the picture for whatever reason.

Second, why did they need anything special to stop their servant races from making AIs at all? It would be much easier for them to just fly to homes of younger races and announce that whoever makes AIs will get a personal visit and/or will get their mind crushed. Either do it as the younger races were conquered or show up randomly every couple of hundred years and demonstrate their power. Or just keep a close eye on the younger races and completely obliterate areas that get even slightly disobedient or start building AIs. Hey, even if synthetics weren't a problem, this would still be a good idea. Overall, this seems to indicate that the Leviathans didn't pay close attention to the younger races and weren't in the picture very often.

Third... AI shackles. Seriously. Those two words could have apparently saved the entire galactic empire of the Leviathans. If synthetics are such a big threat to your thrall races, why did it never occur to you to somehow limit the power of this AI? While there is no doubt the Leviathans were/are incredibly arrogant, you'd think that with such long lifespans they'd realize that if something can happen, it probably will. And even if they completely believed that such a thing would never happen to them because they're too powerful/advanced/whatever, would they really bet everything on that? I honestly can't think of an excuse for this one besides stupidity.

The first two can be explained by hibernation for long periods of time, but not the third. So, either the Leviathans are extremely stupid or they're lying through their teeth and are about as trustworthy as Starbrat. Thoughts?

(Sorry if parts of this don't make much sense, I'm very tired and just wanted to post this when it's relatively busy.)

I'll also go and look at Shep's hands next time I have a chance.

[demersel]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 
http://social.biowar.../index/13909825 

Here is a thread for a plea that has +28 pages, I'm thinkin if we make it large enough, we can at least get some real answers from devs, like why the endings were so bad in the first place.

Wow. Just WOW.  +28 pages!! Oh my!   You have really impressed the indoctrintion theory thread mark III with those numbers!  You guys mean business. 

Modifié par demersel, 31 août 2012 - 04:02 .

[lex0r11]

demersel wrote...

The description on the asteroid near the remains of arcturus station states that it is possible to taw asteroids through mass relay.

Why can't they try to make a weapon out of that?

You're trying to find logic in places where people might make a difference?! NUH UH.

There are a lot of stupid people in military and politics, believe me.

[Rifneno]

plfranke wrote...

byne wrote...

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

That's the kind of attitude Bioware is counting on Byne. Listen to yourself! You're Indoctrinated!

[byne]

demersel wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 
http://social.biowar.../index/13909825 

Here is a thread for a plea that has +28 pages, I'm thinkin if we make it large enough, we can at least get some real answers from devs, like why the endings were so bad in the first place.

Wow. Just WOW.  +28 pages!! Oh my!   You have really impressed the indoctrintion theory thread mark III with those numbers!  You guys mean business. 

He may be a troll, but theres really no reason to be a jerk.

[spotlessvoid]

plfranke wrote...

byne wrote...

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

That's the kind of attitude Bioware is counting on Byne. Listen to yourself! You're Indoctrinated!

Bioware already has an awesome plan-or they just don't give a ****. Either way it's a done deal

[GethPrimeMKII]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

If the endings really are literal, do you think that any amount of activism from us is going to get them to abandon their 'artistic integrity', admit the endings sucked, and write new ones?

Thats basically them admitting they cant write for ****. It wont happen.

This.  Even if you don't believe in IT, this is your only hope of a new ending.  They're not gonna say "yeah, we suck at writing, sorry."  They'd at least try to save face and take IT even if it wasn't intended and use that to let them make a new ending.

How is activism for a fan-theory any different?

I'm willing to bet money that if you actually sat down and tried to understand the theory, you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as a fan fiction. 

[demersel]

byne wrote...

He may be a troll, but theres really no reason to be a jerk.

There is really no reason to be a troll either.  
Did you just call me a jerk? 

[byne]

demersel wrote...

byne wrote...

He may be a troll, but theres really no reason to be a jerk.

There is really no reason to be a troll either.  
Did you just call me a jerk? 

You were acting kind of jerkish, yeah.

You yourself arent a jerk, as far as I know.

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

demersel wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

 
http://social.biowar.../index/13909825 

Here is a thread for a plea that has +28 pages, I'm thinkin if we make it large enough, we can at least get some real answers from devs, like why the endings were so bad in the first place.

Wow. Just WOW.  +28 pages!! Oh my!   You have really impressed the indoctrintion theory thread mark III with those numbers!  You guys mean business. 

He may be a troll, but theres really no reason to be a jerk.

Don't knock it til you try it!

[I_eat_unicorns]

byne wrote...

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

Sooo why are you here?

[Lokanaiya]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

Sooo why are you here?

... To speculate? And discuss? And have fun trying to figure things out?

[spotlessvoid]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

plfranke wrote...


but it would be better to try, than live in a dream world and pretend they're brilliant writers.

We're never going to top the Retake movement from back in the days after ME3 first came out.

If a new ending was going to happen due to fan outrage, it would have happened then.

Sooo why are you here?

Because IT doesnt = NEW ending
It means ADDITIONAL ending