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[Gwyphon]

demersel wrote...

Why do I get the feeling that this is all one and the same guy, with multiple BSN accounts?

The similarities in post content and structure is uncanny.

[Untonic]

Gwyphon wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either. But at least I'm not going to rant about the endings for the months, even years to come and just accept it was a burp in our Mass Effect gaming experience.

Stuff happens, people make mistakes, franchises get tarnished and battered welcome to the corporate life.

Atleast we don't jump into your threads and state that your beliefs are wrong.

I never told you guys you can't believe in something, but when it's pushed up 24/7 it's slightly annoying, annoying like those Jehovah's Witnesses coming up to your door every year even though you told them your not interested.

AND there is NO topics about people stating that the ending is done, I haven't seen a forum post like that in a while. And what are you going to jump into, my character build and tell me it's flat out wrong because of IT, or that I don't use a Carnifex or whatever?

[spotlessvoid]

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

proof is definitive
evidence is suggestive
point was valid
agree with the rest though

[Rifneno]

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

LOL.  People who think IT has no evidence are so full of crap.  I bet half of them wouldn't accept a signed affidavit from one of the writers.  They'd just claim it was "pandering".

[spotlessvoid]

IT must ....die! Every new page..... further drains.....my powers...losing....strength....one  last....arrrrg....attempt....I...unh....must....stop....mmmf.....the....specu-errrrrrrrrk.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 31 août 2012 - 06:14 .

[jgibson14352]

Arashi08 wrote...

Wasting time, it's what we do on this thread you know.

I mean, jeez we could be curing cancer, or writing great works of literature, or changing the political climate of the planet but nooooooooooo! We just feel the need to sit here, in this internet forum, and speculate on how an ending may or may not be as we see it. I mean, it isn't like we were TOLD to speculate and it isn't like Chris Priestly said that IT is a VALID INTERPRETATION for ME3's ending and that the thread belonged here and not in the fan-fiction section.

Instead, we should devote our time and effort to beating a dead horse and file "a well thought out and organized list of complaints" to BioWare about how we demand the ending should be changed, because, heh, we all know that it worked out well the last time we did that. YES! we should totally do that instead of curing diseases or winning the Pulitzer Prize or discovering real life FTL travel.,,or specualting about stuff...

Goddess! we are SUCH TIME-WASTERS!!!!!

NO!..............i watch porn too.........

[BansheeOwnage]

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

It's only a synonym as much as theory is a synonym for hypothesis.
Proof = irrefutable; you can't deny it/fact.
Evidence = supports an idea; doesn't prove it.

Theory = basically the thing that's just below fact.
Hypothesis = something you think without much experimentation/evidence

Get it now?

[Gwyphon]

Untonic wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either. But at least I'm not going to rant about the endings for the months, even years to come and just accept it was a burp in our Mass Effect gaming experience.

Stuff happens, people make mistakes, franchises get tarnished and battered welcome to the corporate life.

Atleast we don't jump into your threads and state that your beliefs are wrong.

I never told you guys you can't believe in something, but when it's pushed up 24/7 it's slightly annoying, annoying like those Jehovah's Witnesses coming up to your door every year even though you told them your not interested.

AND there is NO topics about people stating that the ending is done, I haven't seen a forum post like that in a while. And what are you going to jump into, my character build and tell me it's flat out wrong because of IT, or that I don't use a Carnifex or whatever?

My point being that there is literally ONE thread in which you can enter and partake in 'all of this'. You can literally go into EVERY OTHER THREAD to avoid this discussion, yet you choose the ONLY ONE, willingly click on it then post saying that we're like "Johova's Witnessess" coming to your door. If anything you came to ours, invited yourself inside then proceeded preech the athiest beliefs. There is literally some one who posts exactly what you have every few days. Don't think it's anything special.

Modifié par Gwyphon, 31 août 2012 - 06:16 .

[Untonic]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

proof is definitive
evidence is suggestive
point was valid
agree with the rest though

1 point for you, but change the fact that it's a Theory. Good luck with your mission, I'll stick to mine.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rifneno wrote...

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

LOL.  People who think IT has no evidence are so full of crap.  I bet half of them wouldn't accept a signed affidavit from one of the writers.  They'd just claim it was "pandering".

Honestly yeah, enough playin nice, we need people like Rif and Coolio who say it like it is: If you think IT is baseless, you are an idiot. Period. If you disagree with it, that's one thing. But saying it doesn't make sense doesn't make sense.

[plfranke]

The sad thing is this is the mass effect 3 plot
Bioware has you guys fighting each other instead of fighting them. In the mean time you buy their dlc that gives you garbage and then you come on here and defend their terrible writing by calling it speculation on a larger plan. Also Leviathan changed the first dream for those of you that are interested.

[spotlessvoid]

Untonic wrote....
1point for you, but change the fact that it's a Theory. Good luck with your mission, I'll stick to mine.

And your mission would be?

[ScorpioShane7]

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...

byne wrote...

I_eat_unicorns wrote...


IT is a fan-fiction ending.

Except you have no proof of that, and the thread asking to move the IT thread to the fan creations forum got locked.


Anyhow, I'm tired as hell. Going to go to bed.

Nitpicking my posts and running away doesn't make you right. With the leviathan dlc actaully acknowleging the existence of the catalyst, Bioware is heading in a direction that hurts the mass effect universe. And regardless of whether IT is true or not, one thing is certain: it's not necessary for an alternate ending dlc. Quit hoping that it's the case and help the rest of the community make a plea for better endings, or answers as to why the ending was so bad to begin with if that's the best we can get. 

'You should all believe what I believe!'

No thank you.

^  I don't wanna! I wanna believe!!

I'll explain it to you like you're 12, since you're behaving like one. Like I said before, you're a part of this community whether you like it or not, help the community for the greater good by supporting a plea for a better ending, or answers at best, instead of wasting time speculating to no productive end. 

Surely you jest... in ignorance. A plea is pathetic. You attempt insult because you cannot take the possibility of IT being true. IT is all about what the game is telling you (and where it might be going) story wise. Not "Bioware cheated me out of of the ending I want, so instead of believing that they are fantastic writers, I'll just say that I don't understand it and BEG them to CHANGE the ending." Your comment is one of ignorance and pride. Ignorance because you may be blind and deaf (after playing 3 "Mass Effect" games and STILL not getting the concept of indoctrination!). Pride because you aren't willing to understand that what you believe may not be right. Not a fan of IT? Well then why are you here?

[Untonic]

Gwyphon wrote...

Untonic wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either. But at least I'm not going to rant about the endings for the months, even years to come and just accept it was a burp in our Mass Effect gaming experience.

Stuff happens, people make mistakes, franchises get tarnished and battered welcome to the corporate life.

Atleast we don't jump into your threads and state that your beliefs are wrong.

I never told you guys you can't believe in something, but when it's pushed up 24/7 it's slightly annoying, annoying like those Jehovah's Witnesses coming up to your door every year even though you told them your not interested.

AND there is NO topics about people stating that the ending is done, I haven't seen a forum post like that in a while. And what are you going to jump into, my character build and tell me it's flat out wrong because of IT, or that I don't use a Carnifex or whatever?

My point being that there is literally ONE thread in which you can enter and partake in 'all of this'. You can literally go into EVERY OTHER THREAD to avoid this discussion, yet you choose the ONLY ONE, willingly click on it then post saying that we're like "Johova's Witnessess" coming to your door. If anything you came to ours, invited yourself inside then proceeded to inform us that we're wrong. There is literally some one who posts exactly what you have every few days. Don't think it's anything special.

 Like I think I'm some special Guru? No, yes I clicked on here curiously, I never disrespected anyone's opinions and I have seen enough videos and information for IT. But If I remember correctly, these are free forums and anyone is allowed opinion, I'm curious is to why you guys still fight for the IT. And I've seen you guys pop into "our" forums and do the same so don't think your some kind of new breed of gamer.

[BansheeOwnage]

Untonic wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

proof is definitive
evidence is suggestive
point was valid
agree with the rest though

1 point for you, but change the fact that it's a Theory. Good luck with your mission, I'll stick to mine.

We don't really have a mission. We just dicsuss IT with others who are open to it. We don't preach or anything. Not like you're pretty much doing...
Also, "But IT is just a theory!"
"Well, so is gravity and I don't see you jumping out of buildings."

[Hrothdane]

plfranke wrote...

Also Leviathan changed the first dream for those of you that are interested.

Oh? How so?

[Gwyphon]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

LOL.  People who think IT has no evidence are so full of crap.  I bet half of them wouldn't accept a signed affidavit from one of the writers.  They'd just claim it was "pandering".

Honestly yeah, enough playin nice, we need people like Rif and Coolio who say it like it is: If you think IT is baseless, you are an idiot. Period. If you disagree with it, that's one thing. But saying it doesn't make sense doesn't make sense.

It takes me back to the days in high school attending a christian school. Being an athiest myself I didn't really care for all the classes about christianity and such, but I just ran with it and just didn't pay much attention and no one was worse off for it. But there was always those few kids who would just argue against every point of christianity for no real reason other than just for aguments sake. Humans are strange.

[Arashi08]

jgibson14352 wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

Wasting time, it's what we do on this thread you know.

I mean, jeez we could be curing cancer, or writing great works of literature, or changing the political climate of the planet but nooooooooooo! We just feel the need to sit here, in this internet forum, and speculate on how an ending may or may not be as we see it. I mean, it isn't like we were TOLD to speculate and it isn't like Chris Priestly said that IT is a VALID INTERPRETATION for ME3's ending and that the thread belonged here and not in the fan-fiction section.

Instead, we should devote our time and effort to beating a dead horse and file "a well thought out and organized list of complaints" to BioWare about how we demand the ending should be changed, because, heh, we all know that it worked out well the last time we did that. YES! we should totally do that instead of curing diseases or winning the Pulitzer Prize or discovering real life FTL travel.,,or specualting about stuff...

Goddess! we are SUCH TIME-WASTERS!!!!!

NO!..............i watch porn too.........

Ehhhhhhhh!?

[BansheeOwnage]

ScorpioShane7 wrote...


Surely you jest... in ignorance. A plea is pathetic. You attempt insult because you cannot take the possibility of IT being true. IT is all about what the game is telling you (and where it might be going) story wise. Not "Bioware cheated me out of of the ending I want, so instead of believing that they are fantastic writers, I'll just say that I don't understand it and BEG them to CHANGE the ending." Your comment is one of ignorance and pride. Ignorance because you may be blind and deaf (after playing 3 "Mass Effect" games and STILL not getting the concept of indoctrination!). Pride because you aren't willing to understand that what you believe may not be right. Not a fan of IT? Well then why are you here?

+1 Thank you.

[BansheeOwnage]

Gwyphon wrote...
Humans are strange.

Enough said.

Also, Hi Hrothdane.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 31 août 2012 - 06:30 .

[Untonic]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Untonic wrote....
1point for you, but change the fact that it's a Theory. Good luck with your mission, I'll stick to mine.

And your mission would be?

Mine is the fact of being a man understanding that not everything falls to your favor. 

[Gwyphon]

Untonic wrote...

 Like I think I'm some special Guru? No, yes I clicked on here curiously, I never disrespected anyone's opinions and I have seen enough videos and information for IT. But If I remember correctly, these are free forums and anyone is allowed opinion, I'm curious is to why you guys still fight for the IT. And I've seen you guys pop into "our" forums and do the same so don't think your some kind of new breed of gamer.

Ah then I am mistaken. I saw your original post as some what condescending and for that I apologise. You have to understand the number of trolls that have to be palmed off within this forum. And I don't speak for anyone but myself but the reason I follow IT is because it is far more entertaining and engaging than the literal interpretation. Also speculating is pretty enjoyable

Edit: Sorry for the quote pyramid.

Modifié par Gwyphon, 31 août 2012 - 06:25 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Untonic wrote...

But If I remember correctly, these are free forums and anyone is allowed opinion, I'm curious is to why you guys still fight for the IT. And I've seen you guys pop into "our" forums and do the same so don't think your some kind of new breed of gamer.

First, we don't fight for it. We defend it. All the difference in the world.
Second, sure, there are some ITers who "preach" but a lot less than literalists do. I also don't support ITers doing that.

[Rifneno]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Untonic wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Untonic wrote...

To be honest, you guys don't have solid proof either.

Not proof. Evidence. Big difference. If we had proof, there would be no dicussion!

Okay, change Proof to Evidence, you realize that's a synonym? 

Your point has no validation, it's just a /bump.

LOL.  People who think IT has no evidence are so full of crap.  I bet half of them wouldn't accept a signed affidavit from one of the writers.  They'd just claim it was "pandering".

Honestly yeah, enough playin nice, we need people like Rif and Coolio who say it like it is: If you think IT is baseless, you are an idiot. Period. If you disagree with it, that's one thing. But saying it doesn't make sense doesn't make sense.

Bingo.  They've sent people to the chair for less evidence than we have here.  Some of it is circumstancial, some of it is probably reaching, but a good bit of it is compelling and quite a few things there's simply no good alternative explanation for.  Things like the indoctrinated eyes, the gun switch, control being labeled "bad choice a"... I've yet to hear a non-IT explanation for that isn't laughable or at best ignorant of lore or technical issues.  "No evidence" is just idiots proving they're idiots.