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paxxton

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XXIceColdXX wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Guys! Leviathan says "Your mind belongs to me.... Breathe." The breath scene! It also shows that Shepard when he's in these hallucinations can't tell what's real or not, because he says, "Ann what's happening?"


Not a bad point! Shep definately didnt know what was happening till Levi started talking in his deep reaperesk voice.

Repost for justice.

Uhm... He speaks in that voice all the time. Maybe Shepard didn't notice it was coming from Ann. It's strange.


It was before Anne spoke that he didn't know what was going on. It's when she speaks she does so in Levi's voice and says what's going on.

He actually looks at Ann approaching (and speaking with the voice) so he doesn't recognize her as Leviathan at first.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...
Cause I'm different and somehow ****** people off lol

Are you a contrarian or something? I'm different. I ****** a lot of people off too. Posted Image But why do you think?


A extremist in my believes I don't know

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Ladies and gentlemen of the court, I ask you if this sounds like the sort of music that would occampany a being with only our best intentions at heart?

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LiarasShield wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...
Cause I'm different and somehow ****** people off lol

Are you a contrarian or something? I'm different. I ****** a lot of people off too. Posted Image But why do you think?


A extremist in my believes I don't know

An extremist in MP? I'm intrigued... Posted Image Please continue.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

From WNT:
The Reapers stance on their motivations for wiping out the galaxy every 50,00 years is also inconsistent with the rest of the series. In the first and second games the Reapers would only claim that organics and life was a mistake and needed extermination. Then in ME3 when Shepard meets the leader, the Catalyst, he claims that all he is trying to accomplish is to save organics from synthetics. Now why would the leader's opinion be different then those he controls?

Like how you put that TJ


Thanks! :lol:

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Post in LST !!!
http://social.biowar.../index/13928386

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paxxton wrote...

Post in LST !!!
http://social.biowar.../index/13928386

Two years ago I was attacked by Leviathan on my morning run. Ever since I've been constantly agitated, even afraid. I don't leave the house except to go to work. I'm terrified the entire drive there. My family and coworkers have definitely noticed the change. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Sharing my story has been cathartic. Thanks Leviathan Support Thread

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Found a vid that does some semi-thorough investigating.



At 07:12.

Datapad says:

"NOTE TO STAFF:
This new crossbreed appears harmless and would be inconspicuous in an
office environment. However, it is exceedingly dangerous. Use extreme
caution when working with all third-generation plants."

This
guy's shep is jittery as ****, but anyway, you can see the plant is in
Dr Bryson's office, inside at 00.16 and outside at 4:14



The flowers are in udina's office, and elsewhere on the embassies ward.


Reposting because awesome.
VERY good catch.

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Someone should tweet Gamble asking about EDIs line regarding sovereign " Did you take the appropriate steps to avoid indoctrination?" and how Shepard has protected himself

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Someone should tweet Gamble asking about EDIs line regarding sovereign " Did you take the appropriate steps to avoid indoctrination?" and how Shepard has protected himself

Gamble wouldn't respond. The only people they respond to on twitter are the ones praising them as writing gods, or people who are spewing unconstructive hate and would make anyone who hates the ending look bad.

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RavenEyry wrote...

Ladies and gentlemen of the court, I ask you if this sounds like the sort of music that would occampany a being with only our best intentions at heart?

Of course! Posted Image Just like this one, or this one, or this one. These may not exactly be evil, but they are creepy. Creepy. Or sinister. Not victorious.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 31 août 2012 - 09:34 .


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plfranke wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Someone should tweet Gamble asking about EDIs line regarding sovereign " Did you take the appropriate steps to avoid indoctrination?" and how Shepard has protected himself

Gamble wouldn't respond. The only people they respond to on twitter are the ones praising them as writing gods, or people who are spewing unconstructive hate and would make anyone who hates the ending look bad.

I don't think he has responded to mine either. It's not even angry sounding.

"You said we didn't know half of the reapers' origins, but Leviathan didn't actually add much info. Just a name and a face.
:/"

No reply :(

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Someone should tweet Gamble asking about EDIs line regarding sovereign " Did you take the appropriate steps to avoid indoctrination?" and how Shepard has protected himself

Gamble wouldn't respond. The only people they respond to on twitter are the ones praising them as writing gods, or people who are spewing unconstructive hate and would make anyone who hates the ending look bad.

I don't think he has responded to mine either. It's not even angry sounding.

"You said we didn't know half of the reapers' origins, but Leviathan didn't actually add much info. Just a name and a face.
:/"

No reply :(

But he will be sure to respond to someone telling him how happy they are that they understand everything about the Reapers now.
Mike Gamble: THANKS YOU KNOW WE DO IT FOR YOU FANS!

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can anyone help me? I'm trying ot count the number of times BioWare has lied about Mass Effect 3. but I can't remember them all.

So...who wan't to play the How Many Times Did BioWare Lie About Mass Effect 3 Game? (Title is a work in progress :P)

Let's see, off the top of my head.

1. about the leaked picture of Coates pre-announcement (said it wasn't involved with Mass Effect)
2. about including Multiplayer (said they wouldn't)
3. about there not being a Reaper-off button
4. about the Rachni playing an integral role
5. about the ending not being ABC-style choice related
6. about several leaks including multiplayer content
7. about the EC not changing anything about the endings (The Relays getting damaged instead of exploding is clearly a change NOT an expansion or clarification)
8. while I'm not sure about this one completely, I think they also denied Leviathan until the announced it.

Did I miss any?

Modifié par Arashi08, 31 août 2012 - 09:41 .


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Arashi08 wrote...

can anyone help me? I'm trying ot count the number of times BioWare has lied about Mass Effect 3. but I can't remember them all.

So...who wan't to play the How Many Times Did BioWare Lie About Mass Effect 3 Game? (Title is a work in progress :P)

Let's see, off the top of my head.

1. about the leaked picture of Coates pre-announcement (said it wasn't involved with Mass Effect)
2. about including Multiplayer (said they wouldn't)
3. about there not being a Reaper-off button
4. about the Rachni playing an integral role
5. about the ending not being ABC-style choice related
6. about several leaks including multiplayer content
7. about the EC not changing anything about the endings (The Relays getting damaged instead of exploding is clearly a change NOT an expansion or clarification)
8. while I'm not sure about this one completely, I think they also denied Leviathan until the announced it.

Did I miss any?

Yeah. Here's the link for the "lies" thread. Though, you have some there I didn't know about. So thanks. Look forward to seeing the finished product. I'll try to help now too.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10056886/1

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Arashi08 wrote...

can anyone help me? I'm trying ot count the number of times BioWare has lied about Mass Effect 3. but I can't remember them all.

So...who wan't to play the How Many Times Did BioWare Lie About Mass Effect 3 Game? (Title is a work in progress :P)

Let's see, off the top of my head.

1. about the leaked picture of Coates pre-announcement (said it wasn't involved with Mass Effect)
2. about including Multiplayer (said they wouldn't)
3. about there not being a Reaper-off button
4. about the Rachni playing an integral role
5. about the ending not being ABC-style choice related
6. about several leaks including multiplayer content
7. about the EC not changing anything about the endings (The Relays getting damaged instead of exploding is clearly a change NOT an expansion or clarification)
8. while I'm not sure about this one completely, I think they also denied Leviathan until the announced it.

Did I miss any?

There is already a thread on bsn that has compiled them all pretty neatly. And I'm pretty sure it's more than 8

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TSA_383 wrote...

Found a vid that does some semi-thorough investigating.



At 07:12.

Datapad says:

"NOTE TO STAFF:
This new crossbreed appears harmless and would be inconspicuous in an
office environment. However, it is exceedingly dangerous. Use extreme
caution when working with all third-generation plants."

This
guy's shep is jittery as ****, but anyway, you can see the plant is in
Dr Bryson's office, inside at 00.16 and outside at 4:14



The flowers are in udina's office, and elsewhere on the embassies ward.


Reposting because awesome.
VERY good catch.


They use the plants to watch important aspects of the galaxy. Organic surveillance cameras, if you will.

A good catch though.

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plfranke wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

can anyone help me? I'm trying ot count the number of times BioWare has lied about Mass Effect 3. but I can't remember them all.

So...who wan't to play the How Many Times Did BioWare Lie About Mass Effect 3 Game? (Title is a work in progress :P)

Let's see, off the top of my head.

1. about the leaked picture of Coates pre-announcement (said it wasn't involved with Mass Effect)
2. about including Multiplayer (said they wouldn't)
3. about there not being a Reaper-off button
4. about the Rachni playing an integral role
5. about the ending not being ABC-style choice related
6. about several leaks including multiplayer content
7. about the EC not changing anything about the endings (The Relays getting damaged instead of exploding is clearly a change NOT an expansion or clarification)
8. while I'm not sure about this one completely, I think they also denied Leviathan until the announced it.

Did I miss any?

There is already a thread on bsn that has compiled them all pretty neatly. And I'm pretty sure it's more than 8

Pray, forgive me for not knowing about every thread on BSN and especially for not knowing the eaxct number of lies BioWare has told us.

I hope one day you can forgive me Posted Image

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Antauronius: "If Shepard was on the Citadel and it exploded in Destroy, how could he survive in the breath scene?"

Chris Priestly: "You assume Shepard survived. That could have just been a final breath before he/she died."

...

I think we can agree that Chris really has no idea what he's talking about sometimes. None of the community managers do. Only actual Bioware. The writers. Who have had a nasty habit of saying/doing nothing since release...

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Arashi08 wrote...

Well, they did say the certain important things would be "resolved" like the reaper origins. They were only added in 2 seperate DLCs though. So maybe all their lies will actually not be lies through DLC! Posted Image 16 different endings, here we come!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Antauronius: "If Shepard was on the Citadel and it exploded in Destroy, how could he survive in the breath scene?"

Chris Priestly: "You assume Shepard survived. That could have just been a final breath before he/she died."

...

I think we can agree that Chris really has no idea what he's talking about sometimes. None of the community managers do. Only actual Bioware. The writers. Who have had a nasty habit of saying/doing nothing since release...


Oh that made me laugh cause all Chris does is use excuses or jokes other devs have used in the past. That one was from a conference where a person in the crowd asked how Shep lived and I think it was Mike or someone who joked that "For all you know it could have been his final breath". Then they went on about why they made the scene. 

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Antauronius: "If Shepard was on the Citadel and it exploded in Destroy, how could he survive in the breath scene?"

Chris Priestly: "You assume Shepard survived. That could have just been a final breath before he/she died."

...

I think we can agree that Chris really has no idea what he's talking about sometimes. None of the community managers do. Only actual Bioware. The writers. Who have had a nasty habit of saying/doing nothing since
release...



Right, he survived the fall then died:wizard:

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TJBartlemus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Antauronius: "If Shepard was on the Citadel and it exploded in Destroy, how could he survive in the breath scene?"

Chris Priestly: "You assume Shepard survived. That could have just been a final breath before he/she died."

...

I think we can agree that Chris really has no idea what he's talking about sometimes. None of the community managers do. Only actual Bioware. The writers. Who have had a nasty habit of saying/doing nothing since release...


Oh that made me laugh cause all Chris does is use excuses or jokes other devs have used in the past. That one was from a conference where a person in the crowd asked how Shep lived and I think it was Mike or someone who joked that "For all you know it could have been his final breath". Then they went on about why they made the scene. 

Deflection! Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Antauronius: "If Shepard was on the Citadel and it exploded in Destroy, how could he survive in the breath scene?"

Chris Priestly: "You assume Shepard survived. That could have just been a final breath before he/she died."

...

I think we can agree that Chris really has no idea what he's talking about sometimes. None of the community managers do. Only actual Bioware. The writers. Who have had a nasty habit of saying/doing nothing since release...

There was a follow-up question which he didn't answer. That the last breath is breathing the air out not in. Anyway, if something explodes with a human inside, he usually doesn't take any breaths afterwards.

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IT      :D

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