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[plfranke]

spotlessvoid wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Hey guys if the cycle was delayed so much by the protheans, why is humanity so behind them? And if the cycle was delayed, why are so many things still happening in accordance with the cycle, like Cerberus being indoctrinated?

50,000 year cycle delayed by a few centuries isn't really a big deal

Well apparently it is, because they lose no matter what you do even if you suck and have almost no war assets.

[jgibson14352]

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

According to Vigil, all records of Ilos' team were destroyed during the the battle where the Reapers took the Citadel. Understandable, there's going to be a lot of damage to the place during the invasion as we see in ME1.

The reason the Ilos relay worked as it did is because the Protheans were reverse engineering the relays. They were on the "verge" of being able to reproduce the technology. The Ilos/Citadel relay was their prototype. But being a prototype, it was flawed. It only worked one way. And remember that there's a countdown where you have to get to the conduit before it closes in ME1. I forget whether this is because Saren had it set to self-destruct/seal after he went through or if it only had enough power to work for a few minutes and Saren flipped the switch and left. But either way, the relay was apparently rendered nonfunctional after Shepard used it in ME1.

Ok. That answers my questions. Exept for the "How did cerberus get into the citadel from within?" THe conduit would be a answer to that. 
And that would mean that we have yet to hear this part of the story. 


And my theory about all this, that possibly future DLC will feature Ilos, either in regards of Salarians, or Cerberus or both.

We will certainly get and Omega DLC
There will be sonething about the Salarians.
Possibly something about drell and hanar

And there is going to be a DLC wich will feature the Citadel Defence Force. 

theres a data pad in a secret room during the coup saying how C-Sec was catching alot of sketchy humans with fake ID sneaking Talons and equipment on the citadel and how the Major was stonewalling any attempt to have anything done about it.

in short, cerberus got there through a sh*tton of smuggling and double agents

[plfranke]

jgibson14352 wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

According to Vigil, all records of Ilos' team were destroyed during the the battle where the Reapers took the Citadel. Understandable, there's going to be a lot of damage to the place during the invasion as we see in ME1.

The reason the Ilos relay worked as it did is because the Protheans were reverse engineering the relays. They were on the "verge" of being able to reproduce the technology. The Ilos/Citadel relay was their prototype. But being a prototype, it was flawed. It only worked one way. And remember that there's a countdown where you have to get to the conduit before it closes in ME1. I forget whether this is because Saren had it set to self-destruct/seal after he went through or if it only had enough power to work for a few minutes and Saren flipped the switch and left. But either way, the relay was apparently rendered nonfunctional after Shepard used it in ME1.

Ok. That answers my questions. Exept for the "How did cerberus get into the citadel from within?" THe conduit would be a answer to that. 
And that would mean that we have yet to hear this part of the story. 


And my theory about all this, that possibly future DLC will feature Ilos, either in regards of Salarians, or Cerberus or both.

We will certainly get and Omega DLC
There will be sonething about the Salarians.
Possibly something about drell and hanar

And there is going to be a DLC wich will feature the Citadel Defence Force. 

theres a data pad in a secret room during the coup saying how C-Sec was catching alot of sketchy humans with fake ID sneaking Talons and equipment on the citadel and how the Major was stonewalling any attempt to have anything done about it.

in short, cerberus got there through a sh*tton of smuggling and double agents

It is however, never explained why exactly Cerberus wanted the Citadel.

[demersel]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...
One question though: Chris Priestly said it depends on your actions if Leviathan will be an ally or an adversary. He was an ally for me... but how does it work? On what is it based? Was he an adversary for some of you here? I'm curious how that works.

wow! Good catch. One more solid proof of the fact that Crist priestly either lies, or has no idea what he is talking about.

There is no way to fifnish the leviathan other that he becomes your ally. 

- or is there? there are two conversation choices - one more paragon - the top one (i don't remember how it goes)
and the other more renegade bottom one - You caused this! This is all happening because you made a mistake!

[jgibson14352]

plfranke wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

According to Vigil, all records of Ilos' team were destroyed during the the battle where the Reapers took the Citadel. Understandable, there's going to be a lot of damage to the place during the invasion as we see in ME1.

The reason the Ilos relay worked as it did is because the Protheans were reverse engineering the relays. They were on the "verge" of being able to reproduce the technology. The Ilos/Citadel relay was their prototype. But being a prototype, it was flawed. It only worked one way. And remember that there's a countdown where you have to get to the conduit before it closes in ME1. I forget whether this is because Saren had it set to self-destruct/seal after he went through or if it only had enough power to work for a few minutes and Saren flipped the switch and left. But either way, the relay was apparently rendered nonfunctional after Shepard used it in ME1.

Ok. That answers my questions. Exept for the "How did cerberus get into the citadel from within?" THe conduit would be a answer to that. 
And that would mean that we have yet to hear this part of the story. 


And my theory about all this, that possibly future DLC will feature Ilos, either in regards of Salarians, or Cerberus or both.

We will certainly get and Omega DLC
There will be sonething about the Salarians.
Possibly something about drell and hanar

And there is going to be a DLC wich will feature the Citadel Defence Force. 

theres a data pad in a secret room during the coup saying how C-Sec was catching alot of sketchy humans with fake ID sneaking Talons and equipment on the citadel and how the Major was stonewalling any attempt to have anything done about it.

in short, cerberus got there through a sh*tton of smuggling and double agents

It is however, never explained why exactly Cerberus wanted the Citadel.

why wouldnt you want a huge space fortress in the middle of the relay network? Udinas plan was to have cerberus kill the coucil so he was granted emergency powers. then he was going to use those powers to take the citadel defense fleet to earth to try to retake it. with cerberus agents already on the citadel and the defense fleet gone, the citadel would be an extremely valuable asset for cerberus

[Big_Boss9]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

One question though: Chris Priestly said it depends on your actions if Leviathan will be an ally or an adversary. He was an ally for me... but how does it work? On what is it based? Was he an adversary for some of you here? I'm curious how that works.

Because he's full of ****. They auto-join no matter what. If Arrival was criticized as the "one choice DLC", Leviathan would certainly be the "no choice DLC".

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 01 septembre 2012 - 02:44 .

[Rifneno]

jgibson14352 wrote...

.......because the reapers indoctrinating someone does not grant them access to their memories or knowledge? we kinda covered that. indoctrination realigns goals. superficially, thats really it.

If they've got nanite type indoctrination wherein the Reapers can make circuitry in their brains, then the Reapers can in fact read their memories.  Even then it has to be fairly far along though.  Exert from Retribution:

"He didn't know if his gambit worked, but he felt the Reapers pawing through his mind, digging up everything he knew about Kahlee Sanders.  Not even knowing if it was possible, he tried to direct and influence their search."

[Rifneno]

Cerberus wants the Citadel for the same reason they wanted Omega. We don't know what that reason is though. They're both Reaper created mega-stations, that alone indicates there's some connection.

[masster blaster]

Dam I finally caught up.

[Carmin_Steele]

Rifneno wrote...

Cerberus wants the Citadel for the same reason they wanted Omega. We don't know what that reason is though. They're both Reaper created mega-stations, that alone indicates there's some connection.

Okay, I've seen this about Omega being a Reaper construct before, but no detail, anyone care to explain it? I'm curious about this.

[masster blaster]

demersel wrote...

plfranke wrote...
Let me hear it

Ok. Short version of it - Ilos doesn't add up. 

Why didn't the reapers never came onto it?
What happens with Ilos after the ME1? Who controls and studies it? (answer - the Salarians)
What happens to the conduit after ME1 (the relays are indistructible after all, and it is not likely that they drove asteroids into both parts of the conduit.)
Why do we go to EARTH after learning that the reapers took the citadel, instead of going to Ilos?
How did cerberus got into the citadel during their coup, and was that connected to Ilos? 

And the best question of all - How does Ilos even possible (i mean the conduit?)
The conduit consists of two mini mass relays, linked together, closed on each other and isolated and independent from the rest of the Mass Relay network.

Let's consult the ME  wiki and codex:

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[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)"> ] which the Prothean researchers on Ilos built as a prototype during their experiments into mass relay technology. It is essentially a 'back door' onto the [/color]Citadel[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)">, which is the hub of the relay network. It has no connection to the rest of the network, making it independent. The 'receiving' relay on the Citadel was mistaken for a piece of Prothean art, the ], and was never removed by the [/color]Council.  

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The surviving Prothean scientists, trying to break the cycle of genocide the Reapers perpetuate, used the Conduit to travel to the Citadel once the Reapers had departed. 

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Technically, the Conduit is not simply the miniature prototype relay found on Ilos, but also the Relay Monument itself. The Conduit and the Monument form both ends of a relay system, one relay to send and one to receive. 

the article has another entry in the trivia section, that is irrelevant to my point, but non the less interesting:

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[color=rgb(255, 255, 255)">As of 2185, the public has become aware of some of the details of the Conduit, as a ] recommends that Shepard look at some demael flowers across from the Conduit on the Presidium.[/color] 

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So the conduit is a back door to the citadel which works only one way. Huh. And it was built by the Scientients trapped on Ilos.

Ok... How did they managed to put a recieving mass relay on the citadel after the reapers took it? (and it was the first thing they did) - impossible - it must have been there before the reaper invasion started. 

Why do you start building a back door to the citadel, before you know you ever gonna need one? 

(if it was just an experiment - why make it one way? And why put the reciving end so far awy from the facility, and why put it on the citadel, of all places?)

What do you think of an return to illos dlc?

 





Chris Priestly
11:27 AM 2012-08-01

Unlikely.


 Not sure if he was lying, but I don't know.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 septembre 2012 - 02:59 .

[Rifneno]

Carmin_Steele wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Cerberus wants the Citadel for the same reason they wanted Omega. We don't know what that reason is though. They're both Reaper created mega-stations, that alone indicates there's some connection.

Okay, I've seen this about Omega being a Reaper construct before, but no detail, anyone care to explain it? I'm curious about this.

Retribution exert, heavily indoctrinated Paul Grayson going through Omega:

"He had seen it all before, of course, but he almost felt like he was looking at it through fresh eyes: taking every detail and comparing it against some half-remembered blueprint he didn't actually ever remember seeing.
The cycle continues. Each civilization brings change, yet the works of our kind are eternal."

(Anything in italics from Grayson's PoV tends to be a message from the Reapers.)

[Carmin_Steele]

Thanks Rif.. I read that book and that didn't click, thank you. Interesting, though it is there at the gateway to the Omega relay, so .. it does make a little sense at least, how many other systems have TWO Mass Relays?

[Valmarn]

No, the ending was not and is not a hallucination. I played the game from beginning to end, and the ending sucked.

I went to bed, woke up, played through the ending again and, sure enough, the ending still sucks.

[masster blaster]

Valmarn wrote...

No, the ending was not and is not a hallucination. I played the game from beginning to end, and the ending sucked.

I went to bed, woke up, played through the ending again and, sure enough, the ending still sucks.

Why? Nobody else answer, but him.

[Valmarn]

-double post-

Modifié par Valmarn, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:15 .

[masster blaster]

Oh and byne did you add Freddy's new video on IT, it's really good, and creepy?

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:15 .

[masster blaster]

Valmarn wrote...

No, the ending was not and is not a hallucination.

I played the game from beginning to end, and the ending sucked.
I went to bed, woke up, played through the ending again and, sure enough, the ending still sucks.

Why?

[Hrothdane]

Carmin_Steele wrote...

Thanks Rif.. I read that book and that didn't click, thank you. Interesting, though it is there at the gateway to the Omega relay, so .. it does make a little sense at least, how many other systems have TWO Mass Relays?

There are at LEAST two probably because one of the galaxy traffic reports refers to the standard Omega relay as the Omega-2 Relay. This means there probably Omega-1 and Omega-3 Relays too.

[masster blaster]

Is Loka here?  Dam it I missed Pax, Otter, Estebauns sister/him, and Banshee.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:16 .

[Valmarn]

masster blaster wrote...

Valmarn wrote...

No, the ending was not and is not a hallucination. I played the game from beginning to end, and the ending sucked.

I went to bed, woke up, played through the ending again and, sure enough, the ending still sucks.

Why? Nobody else answer, but him.

...because I was tired. Why else would I go to bed?

Modifié par Valmarn, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:18 .

[masster blaster]

Valmarn wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Valmarn wrote...

No, the ending was not and is not a hallucination. I played the game from beginning to end, and the ending sucked.

I went to bed, woke up, played through the ending again and, sure enough, the ending still sucks.

Why? Nobody else answer, but him.

...because I was tired. Why else would I go to bed?

Is that all you got because that's not the answer I wanted from you. Sorry I ment, why do you believe IT is not in the

game?

Also do you want me to change the perverted comment, to what you fied up top.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:21 .

[jgibson14352]

alright this thread has reached the stupidity singularity. im out for awhile.

[masster blaster]

jgibson14352 wrote...

alright this thread has reached the stupidity singularity. im out for awhile.

See ya.

[masster blaster]

Here is Freddy's video byne, about IT, and it's new.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:25 .