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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Ok, i've made and uploaded a video. It will be up in a few minutes.

edit. And it is up.

www.youtube.com/watch

the perfect proof that Destroy is the only possible choice. 


Ya I never play Renegade Shepard at all, but good point, and with all my post about Eve's speeches, it's perfect.

Also I was the first viewer.


Edit. The Iron Throne is mine. :devil: Banshee, and Estebanus I win.


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This is what IT is happening at the end, when you pick Destroy, and maybe refuse you win, Control, and Synthesis you die.

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demersel wrote...

Ok, i've made and uploaded a video. It will be up in a few minutes.

edit. And it is up.

www.youtube.com/watch

the perfect proof that Destroy is the only possible choice. 


edit2: I just love the look on the faces of those turians at 2.23
The're like -  "......ok".  :D



That does indeed scream 'DESTROY'.

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Ya I never play Renegade Shepard at all, but good point, and with all my post about Eve's speeches, it's perfect.

Also I was the first viewer.


I don't play renegade Shepard, whatever that means. I play my Shepard. I role play him. And my Shepard, while being a very nice guy, is so haapen, that is known for being "butcher of Torfan". 

And in a situation like that there can be no other response for him. 

and actually, when you think about it - there can be no other response.at all. Compare this to the paragon version - with the long uplifting speach. 

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya I never play Renegade Shepard at all, but good point, and with all my post about Eve's speeches, it's perfect.

Also I was the first viewer.


I don't play renegade Shepard, whatever that means. I play my Shepard. I role play him. And my Shepard, while being a very nice guy, is so haapen, that is known for being "butcher of Torfan". 

And in a situation like that there can be no other response for him. 


My SHepard has done some Renegade actions to, but when it comes to the hard chocies, my Shepard goes Pargon. It makes the scene more dramatic, than renegade because Renegade is straight forward.

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya I never play Renegade Shepard at all, but good point, and with all my post about Eve's speeches, it's perfect.

Also I was the first viewer.


I don't play renegade Shepard, whatever that means. I play my Shepard. I role play him. And my Shepard, while being a very nice guy, is so haapen, that is known for being "butcher of Torfan". 

And in a situation like that there can be no other response for him. 


Butcher of Torfan goes so well with Colonist.  I keep meaning to do a playthrough of the series that way, but ME1 drains it out of me everytime.

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My SHepard has done some Renegade actions to, but when it comes to the hard chocies, my Shepard goes Pargon. It makes the scene more dramatic, than renegade because Renegade is straight forward.


I don't do the action, based on what is paragon and what is renegade - i do it based on what i think is the right thing to do. 

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Yeah ME1 can be a grind

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya I never play Renegade Shepard at all, but good point, and with all my post about Eve's speeches, it's perfect.

Also I was the first viewer.


I don't play renegade Shepard, whatever that means. I play my Shepard. I role play him. And my Shepard, while being a very nice guy, is so haapen, that is known for being "butcher of Torfan". 

And in a situation like that there can be no other response for him. 


Butcher of Torfan goes so well with Colonist.  I keep meaning to do a playthrough of the series that way, but ME1 drains it out of me everytime.


Good drain, or bad drain? Also War Hero, and Earth born. One Shepard was in a gang,  raisd on the streets on Earth. fought off 10,000 Batarians, and makes the boy a little more sense to Earth born Shepard, rather than the others.

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masster blaster wrote...

demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ya I never play Renegade Shepard at all, but good point, and with all my post about Eve's speeches, it's perfect.

Also I was the first viewer.


I don't play renegade Shepard, whatever that means. I play my Shepard. I role play him. And my Shepard, while being a very nice guy, is so haapen, that is known for being "butcher of Torfan". 

And in a situation like that there can be no other response for him. 


My SHepard has done some Renegade actions to, but when it comes to the hard chocies, my Shepard goes Pargon. It makes the scene more dramatic, than renegade because Renegade is straight forward.


My Shepard is similar. She grew up on Earth in the gangs, so she still has a bit of a hard edge and some trust issues. She joined the Navy as a way to get away from it all, but ended up finding that there are actually decent people in the world if you give them a chance. Getting rewarded for her accomplishments during the Skylian Blitz further reinforced the idea in her mind that doing the right thing ends up paying off in the end.

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My Shepard is Ruthless, Earthborn.  That makes the whole ME3 extremly personal for him. (also am i imagening it, or does Earthborn bio somewhere says that Shepard was born in Rio?)

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masster blaster wrote...

Good drain, or bad drain? Also War Hero, and Earth born. One Shepard was in a gang,  raisd on the streets on Earth. fought off 10,000 Batarians, and makes the boy a little more sense to Earth born Shepard, rather than the others.


Oh, hey. We picked the same backgrounds! :lol:

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My Shepard is Ruthless, Earthborn.


Not bad, but ya my first, and ONLy SHepard, is Earthborn, and War Hero. Makes the storyline a little more interasting for me, and makes Shepard's legend awsome, if it goes down in the history books.

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Not bad, but ya my first, and ONLy SHepard, is Earthborn, and War Hero. Makes the storyline a little more interasting for me, and makes Shepard's legend awsome, if it goes down in the history books.


I also have only one Shepard - my first and only. Earthborn, Butcher of Torfan, killed the rachni (it seemed lika a thing to do at the time), sacrificed the council (it seemed like a thing to do at the time, and i stand by this choice!), Kept wrex alive. Kaidan Alenko died on virmire (Ashley was on the bomb team, Kaidan was leading the salarian scouts. when i had to choose - i chose to make sure that the bomb is secured, + Kaidan is of higher rank, and male. When it comes to sacrifice in the line of dute, my phylosophy is - Higher rank male officers first)

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Okay um correct me if U am wrong, but wasn't Project x, suppose to add up Leviathan, and Omega dlc's and thus this dlc will be the final puzzle that brings it all together. Could it be the Citadel dlc? the defense force in action, could be after Shepard wakes up, or maybe as Shepard is in the dream world.

Because if it's the Citadel defense force, then it has to be after the Cerberus take over the Citadel failed mission.

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay um correct me if U am wrong, but wasn't Project x, suppose to add up Leviathan, and Omega dlc's and thus this dlc will be the final puzzle that brings it all together. Could it be the Citadel dlc? the defense force in action, could be after Shepard wakes up, or maybe as Shepard is in the dream world.

Because if it's the Citadel defense force, then it has to be after the Cerberus take over the Citadel failed mission.


yes. that is what i'm thinking. 

But there should also be a mission in Rio somehow....

And there will be something connected with the Govurg story...

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Not bad, but ya my first, and ONLy SHepard, is Earthborn, and War Hero. Makes the storyline a little more interasting for me, and makes Shepard's legend awsome, if it goes down in the history books.


I also have only one Shepard - my first and only. Earthborn, Butcher of Torfan, killed the rachni (it seemed lika a thing to do at the time), sacrificed the council (it seemed like a thing to do at the time, and i stand by this choice!), Kept wrex alive. Kaidan Alenko died on virmire (Ashley was on the bomb team, Kaidan was leading the salarian scouts. when i had to chose - i chose to make sure that the bomb is secured, + Kaidan is of higher rank, and male. When it comes to sacrifice in the line of dute, my phylosophy is - Higher rank male officers first)


Mine was based on emotions because it is this that makes my Shepard feel alive. My Shepard saved the Rachni queen in ME1, Kept Wrex alive, left Kadin to die because my male Shepard fell for Ash, and saved the council because I had a feeling that if I killed them the galaxy would hate Humanity, and I wanted to show the galaxy that Humanity is willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING to save everyone else.

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Okay um correct me if U am wrong, but wasn't Project x, suppose to add up Leviathan, and Omega dlc's and thus this dlc will be the final puzzle that brings it all together. Could it be the Citadel dlc? the defense force in action, could be after Shepard wakes up, or maybe as Shepard is in the dream world.

Because if it's the Citadel defense force, then it has to be after the Cerberus take over the Citadel failed mission.


yes. that is what i'm thinking. 

But there should also be a mission in Rio somehow....

And there will be something connected with the Govurg story...


tell me about this please, I forgot about it.:P

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masster blaster wrote...

Mine was based on emotions because it is this that makes my Shepard feel alive. My Shepard saved the Rachni queen in ME1, Kept Wrex alive, left Kadin to die because my male Shepard fell for Ash, and saved the council because I had a feeling that if I killed them the galaxy would hate Humanity, and I wanted to show the galaxy that Humanity is willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING to save everyone else.


Mine is also based on emotions. 

I sucrificed the council, because i didn't know what immidiate cosequences reassigning forces on saving it would have, and I felt like every second matters, and sovereign MUST be taken down as soon as possible. I didn't know that if you choose to save the council you still have enough time to destroy the sovereign before he opens the portal to dark space.  

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demersel wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Mine was based on emotions because it is this that makes my Shepard feel alive. My Shepard saved the Rachni queen in ME1, Kept Wrex alive, left Kadin to die because my male Shepard fell for Ash, and saved the council because I had a feeling that if I killed them the galaxy would hate Humanity, and I wanted to show the galaxy that Humanity is willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING to save everyone else.


Mine is also based on emotions. 

I sucrificed the council, because i didn't know what immidiate cosequences reassigning forces on saving it would have, and I felt like every second matters, and sovereign MUST be taken down as soon as possible. I didn't know that if you choose to save the council you still have enough time to destroy the sovereign before he opens the portal to dark space.  


Ya I was like "f*** what do I do." When I first played ME1, but ya it was worth it to save them because epic fight scene, and Normandy lead the charge.


Edit: Oh and I wanted them to say " Thank you Shepard, and when the time comes we will help you fight the Reapers." But sadly no they didn't, but I picked Anderson to lead Humanity as Councilor, instead of Udina.

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What was the name of that doctor that interacted with that ancient ship that has the minds of an intire civilization inside it? It was the other big story, besides Govurg on the Cerberus Daily News.

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Ya I was like "f*** what do I do." When I first played ME1, but ya it was worth it to save them because epic fight scene, and Normandy lead the charge.


The scene where you close the channel on them is also epic. After all those debriefs, and ignoring evidence that was right there. (and i did all the debriefs, I never once cut them off - only after the grounded the normandy - that was it, and they siezed to matter for me.) 

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What was the name of that doctor that interacted with that ancient ship that has the minds of an intire civilization inside it? It was the other big story, besides Govurg on the Cerberus Daily News.


To be honest I didn't read the news until the Alliance news network started to report what was happeing on the front lines. Also what ever happend to the data that the Eclispe had on that one dead Cerberus operative, if you give it to the Alliance? Never heard about it ever again.

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Ya I was like "f*** what do I do." When I first played ME1, but ya it was worth it to save them because epic fight scene, and Normandy lead the charge.


The scene where you close the channel on them is also epic. After all those debriefs, and ignoring evidence that was right there. (and i did all the debriefs, I never once cut them off - only after the grounded the normandy - that was it, and they siezed to matter for me.) 


I cut them off after Kadin died. They asked for that once they got on my Shepard's case on Virmire.
But that was only a one time deal because I was caught in the momunte.

Except Anderson he is a boss.:D

Also I hate the new Councile in ME2, and three if you kill the old Councile.

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Good drain, or bad drain? Also War Hero, and Earth born. One Shepard was in a gang, raisd on the streets on Earth. fought off 10,000 Batarians, and makes the boy a little more sense to Earth born Shepard, rather than the others.


Most of it good drain. It's a great game, but it's so long if you do all the sidequests. Wind up itching to get to 2 and 3. Pinnacle Station baaaaaaaaaaad drain. Very very bad.

I typically go with spacer/war hero. Not big on the tragedy background and really not big on the gangs background. I hate RPing a character that's far off from my own stances and gangs is something I'd never do under any circumstance. Occasionally I'll take the sole survivor, but it pisses me off not being able to bring it up with TIM or Miranda when she's cheerleading.

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I also have only one Shepard - my first and only. Earthborn, Butcher of Torfan, killed the rachni (it seemed lika a thing to do at the time), sacrificed the council (it seemed like a thing to do at the time, and i stand by this choice!), Kept wrex alive. Kaidan Alenko died on virmire (Ashley was on the bomb team, Kaidan was leading the salarian scouts. when i had to choose - i chose to make sure that the bomb is secured, + Kaidan is of higher rank, and male. When it comes to sacrifice in the line of dute, my phylosophy is - Higher rank male officers first)


I hate how it's always talked about as if the Council was the only thing sacrficied with the Destiny Ascension. There were thousands of people on board. I can't even see sacrificing it with the logic that you need to save your firepower for Sovereign. Because the Ascension is powerful even by dreadnought standards. You're not saving firepower by sacrificing it, you're losing firepower. Basic military strategy: divide and conquer. No reason to divide your assets.

If I had the lifespan of an asari, I'd still never figure out the "women's lives are worth more than men's" philosophy. Equality isn't limited to paychecks.

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I hate how it's always talked about as if the Council was the only thing sacrficied with the Destiny Ascension. There were thousands of people on board. I can't even see sacrificing it with the logic that you need to save your firepower for Sovereign. Because the Ascension is powerful even by dreadnought standards. You're not saving firepower by sacrificing it, you're losing firepower. Basic military strategy: divide and conquer. No reason to divide your assets.

If I had the lifespan of an asari, I'd still never figure out the "women's lives are worth more than men's" philosophy. Equality isn't limited to paychecks.


And I HATE IT, when they talk saving Destiny Ascension as if it was done simply by a click of fingers. 

You  lose A LOT of Allience ships saving Destiny Ascension.  - If you campare war assets - you lose more by saving it, then by letting it be destroyed. Also basic military strategy. 

LOL
And devide and conquer does not apply here, :D you're confused. 

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