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[plfranke]

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Nice to see in the poll still so many people favor destroy, imo it is the only choice , im sure everyone on this thread agrees

Actually, I don't.

Allright correction, most of them will agree

he's just a very commited troll

No he isn't. he hasn't done any trolling, at least as far as I can see.

he is in a thread revolving around a theory that bases itself on control not being possible for various reasons, however he loves control. He also never contributes anything of any worth to the thread. You figure it out.

Edit: I'm on top of the woooooooooorrrrrrrllllllld!

Modifié par plfranke, 02 septembre 2012 - 09:52 .

[estebanus]

EDIT: Dafuq just happened.

Modifié par estebanus, 02 septembre 2012 - 09:59 .

[estebanus]

plfranke wrote...

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Nice to see in the poll still so many people favor destroy, imo it is the only choice , im sure everyone on this thread agrees

Actually, I don't.

Allright correction, most of them will agree

he's just a very commited troll

No he isn't. he hasn't done any trolling, at least as far as I can see.

he is in a thread revolving around a theory that bases itself on control not being possible for various reasons, however he loves control. He also never contributes anything of any worth to the thread. You figure it out.

Uuuhm... you basically just described both me and Rosewind, that is, without the "control loving" part. So I suppose we too, are trolls?
Is he all in your face about how much he loves control? And even so, how does that even qualify as trolling?

Modifié par estebanus, 02 septembre 2012 - 09:54 .

[lex0r11]

Oh, hello folks.

Being lazy and not checking the pages fast enough. What's news?

[paxxton]

plfranke wrote...

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Nice to see in the poll still so many people favor destroy, imo it is the only choice , im sure everyone on this thread agrees

Actually, I don't.

Allright correction, most of them will agree

he's just a very commited troll

No he isn't. he hasn't done any trolling, at least as far as I can see.

he is in a thread revolving around a theory that bases itself on control not being possible for various reasons, however he loves control. He also never contributes anything of any worth to the thread. You figure it out.

Edit: I'm on top of the woooooooooorrrrrrrllllllld!

If you haven't noticed, I support Destroy from the IT standpoint. Also, I'm not going to be involved in a flame war about the worthiness of my posts. I like them.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Come to think of it... How long has this actually been going on between you? Since the first thread?

EDIT: I just saw that my brother got the first thread locked. What the hell? This other guy posting stuff about his penis was obviously a troll! How did he fall for him?!

Since MK II. That's when I "joined". I was always informed through my brother though, BleedingUranium.

Also, I got the second thread locked, so Estebanus and I both got a thread locked.  

Mother of god... Really? That's a weird coincidence.

I removed an unneeded quote tag, because my brain was about to explode when it looked like estebanusister was saying her brother was BleedingUranium

Modifié par byne, 02 septembre 2012 - 09:58 .

[estebanus]

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, hello folks.

Being lazy and not checking the pages fast enough. What's news?

Plfranke accused Paxxton of being a troll, some pie banter between me and banshee, and BatmanTurian, who apparently is a veteran of the IT, has come back.

[spotlessvoid]

I've thought this through and the only logical conclusion to Bioware's ambiguous ambiguity is obvious:
There is subliminal advertising on the bsn. They are making millions off us speculating. This also explains why I woke up at Walmart at 3:45am with a cart filled with waterproof matches, a gallon of 2% milk, 1 truck tire, a half empty box of condoms, and federal premium 45 ammo. Just didn't make any sense. I never shop at Walmart

[plfranke]

Banshee I just watched it and Anderson consistently says things that are ahead of Shepard and Shepard couldn't have seen. However, it does play to the fact that Shepard's mind is making it up all along, because Anderson says there's a chasm, then a chasm appears, but Anderson isn't even there. And we can see far enough ahead that Anderson is not where he says he is. He only shows up at the control panel and if you walk all the way back you can see that Anderson disappears from the control panel if you aren't directly behind him on that platform.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

Uuuhm... you basically just described both me and Rosewind, that is, without the "control loving" part. So I suppose we too, are trolls?
Is he all in your face about how much he loves control? And even so, how does that even qualify as trolling?

I didn't know you know Rose. Actually, I haven't seen her or Megumi here in a while. Or Arian. Oh well.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Uuuhm... you basically just described both me and Rosewind, that is, without the "control loving" part. So I suppose we too, are trolls?
Is he all in your face about how much he loves control? And even so, how does that even qualify as trolling?

I didn't know you know Rose. Actually, I haven't seen her or Megumi here in a while. Or Arian. Oh well.

I've been talking a lot with Rose over Origin. She likes Guild Wars too, so we have a bit to talk about.
And, from time to time, parts about the IT slip out in between our conversations.

Modifié par estebanus, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:03 .

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

Banshee I just watched it and Anderson consistently says things that are ahead of Shepard and Shepard couldn't have seen. However, it does play to the fact that Shepard's mind is making it up all along, because Anderson says there's a chasm, then a chasm appears, but Anderson isn't even there. And we can see far enough ahead that Anderson is not where he says he is. He only shows up at the control panel and if you walk all the way back you can see that Anderson disappears from the control panel if you aren't directly behind him on that platform.

Yeah, you're right. I meant more that he says them right before Shep sees them. Like you said, like Shep is making it up as you go along.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:04 .

[BatmanTurian]

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, hello folks.

Being lazy and not checking the pages fast enough. What's news?

Plfranke accused Paxxton of being a troll, some pie banter between me and banshee, and BatmanTurian, who apparently is a veteran of the IT, has come back.

Yeah, I'm just lurking. Leviathan DLC refreshed my interest again.

[plfranke]

I could think of less kind things to say about you guys other than troll. But, I'm not here to start a fight on the IT thread, I'm here to actually discuss the theory, unlike you guys who hang out and talk about totally irrelevant things.

Anyway, Banshee, I do think that Anderson is Shepard's mind and that would explain the entire environment being a fabrication of his mind.

[spotlessvoid]

plfranke wrote...

Banshee I just watched it and Anderson consistently says things that are ahead of Shepard and Shepard couldn't have seen. However, it does play to the fact that Shepard's mind is making it up all along, because Anderson says there's a chasm, then a chasm appears, but Anderson isn't even there. And we can see far enough ahead that Anderson is not where he says he is. He only shows up at the control panel and if you walk all the way back you can see that Anderson disappears from the control panel if you aren't directly behind him on that platform.

I think many underestimate HOW bad the writing would have to be for the endings to be literal. It would be like they condensed every atom of brad writing they had in them into the last 15 minutes.

[lex0r11]

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, hello folks.

Being lazy and not checking the pages fast enough. What's news?

Plfranke accused Paxxton of being a troll, some pie banter between me and banshee, and BatmanTurian, who apparently is a veteran of the IT, has come back.

Ah, the two of us are going to be called trolls too at some point I suppose for being too cynical or whatever, it's only a matter of time.

And I saw BatmanTurian earlier today. We had some fun with a very convincing "literalist". Made us almost pack our bags. Or I think he was. Probably not.

Modifié par lex0r11, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:07 .

[plfranke]

spotlessvoid wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Banshee I just watched it and Anderson consistently says things that are ahead of Shepard and Shepard couldn't have seen. However, it does play to the fact that Shepard's mind is making it up all along, because Anderson says there's a chasm, then a chasm appears, but Anderson isn't even there. And we can see far enough ahead that Anderson is not where he says he is. He only shows up at the control panel and if you walk all the way back you can see that Anderson disappears from the control panel if you aren't directly behind him on that platform.

I think many underestimate HOW bad the writing would have to be for the endings to be literal. It would be like they condensed every atom of brad writing they had in them into the last 15 minutes.

Yeah. You know, I'm surprised at the amount of people that take a literal stance on the ending and aren't bothered by Anderson or The Illusive Man showing up at the ending. They just label it as a minor plot convenience, but these are major appearances that had absolutely no way of happening.Illusive Man shows up out of no where, on a bridge with only one entrance that was closed. Anderson shows up like magic and is somehow never visible until the control panel.

[estebanus]

plfranke wrote...

I could think of less kind things to say about you guys other than troll. But, I'm not here to start a fight on the IT thread, I'm here to actually discuss the theory, unlike you guys who hang out and talk about totally irrelevant things.
 

Yeah, of course. That's why you started it, right? To not start a fight, right?

Whatever. You don't see me calling you names.

[Skillz1986]

Nice to see some of the it veterans still going strong (byne of course, batman turian,lexxor). Are there more of the oldtimers still around? Earthbornshepard, arian?

Any official news relating to IT that i have missed?

[byne]

lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, hello folks.

Being lazy and not checking the pages fast enough. What's news?

Plfranke accused Paxxton of being a troll, some pie banter between me and banshee, and BatmanTurian, who apparently is a veteran of the IT, has come back.

Ah, the two of us are going to be called trolls too at some point I suppose for being too cynical or whatever, it's only a matter of time.

And I saw BatmanTurian earlier today. We had some fun with a very convincing "literalist". Made us almost pack our bags. Or I think he was. Probably not.

If anyone calls lex0r a troll, I will be very disappoint.

Very disappoint indeed.

[BatmanTurian]

plfranke wrote...

I could think of less kind things to say about you guys other than troll. But, I'm not here to start a fight on the IT thread, I'm here to actually discuss the theory, unlike you guys who hang out and talk about totally irrelevant things.

Anyway, Banshee, I do think that Anderson is Shepard's mind and that would explain the entire environment being a fabrication of his mind.

oh don't be a wet blanket. We've discussed irrelevant things since the first thread.

There's a theory that Shepard's mind is split temporarily according to the Fruedian model of the mind. ( http://en.wikipedia....erego#Super-ego) Shepard is the ID, Anderson is the Ego, and TIM is the Superego.

[Ytook]

Did anything of interest come up at PAX?

[BansheeOwnage]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think many underestimate HOW bad the writing would have to be for the endings to be literal. It would be like they condensed every atom of brad writing they had in them into the last 15 minutes.

Agreed. That's why I find it so unlikely. Here's something I said:

Basically if the literal endings are true (regardless of breaking themes and lore) it means Shepard and all of Shepard's friends and allies are just stubborn idiots. They should have listened to the antagonists (Saren, TIM, Reapers) the whole time. Instead they're just soldiers only able to look at the world down the barrel of a gun. That would not only make no sense at all from a writing perspective, but it would be totally, totally lame.

I also want someone to ask why the apparent moral of the story was something like this:
“The villains were right all along; the hero and associates were just too stubborn to realize it. Also, free will sucks, and gets everyone killed. Better to force something on everything in the galaxy."

Here's how I see it: Whether intentionally or not, BW has in fact indoctrinated much of the playerbase. The fun thing about that is you can't really argue it, because said portion of the playerbase aligned themselves with the reapers willingly. If BW didn't intend this, they indoctrinated themselves, much like what the reapers may have done.

Best evidence for IT: The utter improbability that Bioware would write such an awesome, deep game with such great lore and characters, then apparently forget all of those characters, break the lore, and release a generally unsatisfying end the their awesome trilogy. The end of ME3 is arguably the most important part of the series. But then, after that, release more awesomely written DLC. How could they be awesome, screw up very badly, then be awesome again? Doesn't make any sense! So my biggest piece of IT evidence is BW screwing up that badly, because it simply makes less sense than the endings!

TL;DR, if the literal endings are true, what the hell happended at bioware? No. Seriously. I want to know. I don't understand.

[paxxton]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Nice to see some of the it veterans still going strong (byne of course, batman turian,lexxor). Are there more of the oldtimers still around? Earthbornshepard, arian?

Any official news relating to IT that i have missed?

There's a PAX panel tomorrow on reaching out to BioWare fans. Probably webcast.
http://www.livestream.com/biowaretv

Modifié par paxxton, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:12 .

[estebanus]

lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, hello folks.

Being lazy and not checking the pages fast enough. What's news?

Plfranke accused Paxxton of being a troll, some pie banter between me and banshee, and BatmanTurian, who apparently is a veteran of the IT, has come back.

Ah, the two of us are going to be called trolls too at some point I suppose for being too cynical or whatever, it's only a matter of time.

Yeah, I suppose so. He also just insinuated that I'm a troll, too. Great. Now everyone who doesn't fit into his own view of how things should be are trolls.